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      08-26-2014, 02:55 PM   #1
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Question Thoughts on Hooked on Driving (Northern California)?

I signed up with Hooked on Driving (HOD) for their Friday, Sept 5th event at Thunderhill between the private track day on Thursday and the PCA GGR event on Sat/Sun. Haven't driven with them before so curious on what I should expect. Do they put on good events? Any things to watch out for?
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      08-26-2014, 03:33 PM   #2
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Hooked on Driving has some of the most well organized track days in Northern California. I've ran and instructed with them before. Great group.
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I have done a bunch of events in the with HOD. Their events are well run and professional.
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HOD is probably one of the best run group I've ever dealt with outside of the marquee clubs.
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Well-run group in terms of organization, safety, and quality of instruction. Would use them, BMW CCA or PCA for HDPE if you want to learn how to drive properly and be safe while doing it. These are the only 3 I would recommend in Norcal.
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Well-run group in terms of organization, safety, and quality of instruction. Would use them, BMW CCA or PCA for HDPE if you want to learn how to drive properly and be safe while doing it. These are the only 3 I would recommend in Norcal.
If you have experience and are looking for seat time, there are a lot of other quality groups that run track days.

I am also a fan of NCRC, Speed SF and Blacktrax. All run good events and have friendly people. NCRC has some of the lowest pricing for track time of any group in Northern California.
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If you have experience and are looking for seat time, there are a lot of other quality groups that run track days.

I am also a fan of NCRC, Speed SF and Blacktrax. All run good events and have friendly people. NCRC has some of the lowest pricing for track time of any group in Northern California.
I did a day with NRCR at Buttonwillow earlier this year....never again. Too many asshats dive bombing into turns and trying to pass in turns in the advanced group. I had a buddy riding shotgun so that I could show him the line since it was his first time out at Buttonwillow and some moron in an S2000 passes me in the sweeper going 2 cars wide.
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I did a day with NRCR at Buttonwillow earlier this year....never again. Too many asshats dive bombing into turns and trying to pass in turns in the advanced group. I had a buddy riding shotgun so that I could show him the line since it was his first time out at Buttonwillow and some moron in an S2000 passes me in the sweeper going 2 cars wide.
Well, NCRC is a "Racing Club". They run competition timed events and such so advanced group do have some people who will pass at any time. It's not so gentleman-like as some other groups. I've ran with them for over 10 years and haven't had any issues.

I tend to just pull over and let people by in advanced or run intermediate. But I can see how it can be scary. Also, not a fan of people with R compounds and slicks kicking up rocks at my car. Another reason to not run advanced...
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Well, NCRC is a "Racing Club". They run competition timed events and such so advanced group do have some people who will pass at any time. It's not so gentleman-like as some other groups. I've ran with them for over 10 years and haven't had any issues.

I tend to just pull over and let people by in advanced or run intermediate. But I can see how it can be scary. Also, not a fan of people with R compounds and slicks kicking up rocks at my car. Another reason to not run advanced...
I wasn't pissed as much of the potentially my car getting hit as I was able my buddy getting hurt if that guy would have slide and hit where he was sitting. I'm not an aggressive passer and I prefer to wait for the right time to pass even in open-passing. I enjoy the PCA/POC events the best.
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I wasn't pissed as much of the potentially my car getting hit as I was able my buddy getting hurt if that guy would have slide and hit where he was sitting. I'm not an aggressive passer and I prefer to wait for the right time to pass even in open-passing. I enjoy the PCA/POC events the best.
If you think NCRC is aggressive, do not run with NASA "HPDE" events.

They run race cars along with regular cars in their advanced groups. Usually the HPDE slots into the empty space between competition times. The race drivers pass under all conditions just as they would in a wheel to wheel competition event. I drove with them before, won't do that again.
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I did a day with NRCR at Buttonwillow earlier this year....never again. Too many asshats dive bombing into turns and trying to pass in turns in the advanced group. I had a buddy riding shotgun so that I could show him the line since it was his first time out at Buttonwillow and some moron in an S2000 passes me in the sweeper going 2 cars wide.
I just noticed you are in SoCal... it is quite possible that the attendees for the event in SoCal are SoCal people. Not many NorCal people travel down for the event unless it's the staff of NCRC and regulars. I haven't seen anything abnormal from their events up here.

Dave keeps track of all attendees and regularly bans or demotes drivers who continuously break rules. He also checks references and driver background when he can. My friend has been called to vouch for people he might know who signed up for Advanced group.
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If you think NCRC is aggressive, do not run with NASA "HPDE" events.

They run race cars along with regular cars in their advanced groups. Usually the HPDE slots into the empty space between competition times. The race drivers pass under all conditions just as they would in a wheel to wheel competition event. I drove with them before, won't do that again.
Oh yeah, I have heard about stories about NASA from some of the Porsche guys. Make it sound like the wild west since you got race guys who'll go wheel-to-wheel along side the HPDE guys.
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I made a trip down to Thunderhill with some friends last fall. David Ray and HOD put on a great couple of days! I was in open passing point optional and everything went smoothly. My honest opinion is that HOD has the right approach. The cater to the entire spectrum of driver. If you are a beginner the have great instructors and have the proper rules required for that group. On the other end of the spectrum you have guys like me that want to run in an open passing format. Then everything in between.
My group was made welcome and with references we were allowed to run as we normally would. I wish more track day clubs would take this approach.
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if you can't run in a group with other drivers doing those maneuvers (and deemed ok), why would you run in that group? a guy passing on the sweeper is passing because he can isn't he?

i've run with ncrc and they are pretty tight with their rules, and they are priced good. they are a norcal group providing better rates in socal than socal groups LOL.

the meetings are the best with beginner drivers. its a reality check for most ppl who thought they went off because "they were carrying too much speed"
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