Stroker Kit w/Supercharger??

OM3GA · 01-26-2013, 02:25 AM

Hey everyone, so I was curious if there are any complications(fitment,etc) w/ putting a 4.4L Stroker kit and a ESS Supercharger on the s65 engine?

Thanks!

Superfly_M3 · 01-26-2013, 02:56 AM

There shouldn't be, the length of the block is the same, and Supercharger fits fine.
I think VAC Motorsports did one.

img · 01-26-2013, 08:43 AM

No issues, 4.6 has been done in the past as well.

kchu221 · 01-26-2013, 09:57 AM

i think it should be fine! i believe member pencil geek had this done to his m!

pbonsalb · 01-26-2013, 09:58 AM

This is the ultimate, if you can afford it, unless you want to pioneer a twin turbo kit such as are available for the newer Ford V8s.

Roman@ESS · 01-26-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OM3GA

Hey everyone, so I was curious if there are any complications(fitment,etc) w/ putting a 4.4L Stroker kit and a ESS Supercharger on the s65 engine?

Thanks!

It can be done. We have done a 4.6 with a SC you just have to tune properly.

m33 · 01-26-2013, 11:30 AM

4.6l LC would be sick !!
You MT or DCT?

OM3GA · 01-26-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

4.6l LC would be sick !!
You MT or DCT?

Don't own one at the moment, just asking questions and preparing for when the m3 is in my driveway

It would hopefully be an MT

m33 · 01-26-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OM3GA

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Originally Posted by m33

4.6l LC would be sick !!
You MT or DCT?

Don't own one at the moment, just asking questions and preparing for when the m3 is in my driveway

It would hopefully be an MT

Ah gotcha , well if you plan on doing a 4.6 LC stroker then I would purchase a MT .
With a blower your looking at 500wtq 700whp range & I actually almost pulled the trigger on
This but being I'm DCT my tranny would not suffice or at least I would have to change out clutches every 10-15k miles depending how hard I drive it, so I'm doing a 4.0 low compression build .
Starting a thread next week once all my parts come in and ill be posting step by step pictures

stay tuned

GOLFFRR · 01-26-2013, 11:18 PM

^^^

Vic311 · 01-26-2013, 11:49 PM

You also probably don't want to run too much boost with a stroked out engine.

schnell325 · 01-27-2013, 12:44 AM

Depends on the compression ratio of the LC engine.

OM3GA · 01-27-2013, 01:07 AM

Does RDSport still sell the stroker kit? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

e92 M3 · 01-27-2013, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

^^^

lol agreed... do i smell future izzy vs zim speedo wars again?

img · 01-27-2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by e92 M3

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

^^^

lol agreed... do i smell future izzy vs zim speedo wars again?

img · 01-27-2013, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OM3GA

Does RDSport still sell the stroker kit? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

For 4.6 you have Dinan or RD sport.
4.4 you have Vac

pbonsalb · 01-27-2013, 08:11 AM

Aren't transmissions and clutches rated by torque? And hasn't the DCT been upgraded for use in the M5 and M6 that uses a twin turbo V8 that should make as much or more torque in stock form as any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65? And isn't that DCT holding the added torque from tuned versions of the M5 and M6 that are definitely making more torque than any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65 will make? Not sure what it would cost to upgrade the DCT to M5/M6 specs, but if you can afford a stroker kit, an intercooled supercharger kit, and custom tuning, then you don't need to ask about costs.

m33 · 01-27-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Aren't transmissions and clutches rated by torque? And hasn't the DCT been upgraded for use in the M5 and M6 that uses a twin turbo V8 that should make as much or more torque in stock form as any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65? And isn't that DCT holding the added torque from tuned versions of the M5 and M6 that are definitely making more torque than any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65 will make? Not sure what it would cost to upgrade the DCT to M5/M6 specs, but if you can afford a stroker kit, an intercooled supercharger kit, and custom tuning, then you don't need to ask about costs.

The new M5 & M6 DCT has Thicker gears.... Basically beef'd up

lenzm3edan · 01-27-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m33

Ah gotcha , well if you plan on doing a 4.6 LC stroker then I would purchase a MT .
With a blower your looking at 500wtq 700whp range & I actually almost pulled the trigger on
This but being I'm DCT my tranny would not suffice or at least I would have to change out clutches every 10-15k miles depending how hard I drive it, so I'm doing a 4.0 low compression build .
Starting a thread next week once all my parts come in and ill be posting step by step pictures

stay tuned

4.0 LC build

don't forget the wings

keep us posted on the build.

Team Plutonium · 01-27-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by m33

Ah gotcha , well if you plan on doing a 4.6 LC stroker then I would purchase a MT .
With a blower your looking at 500wtq 700whp range & I actually almost pulled the trigger on
This but being I'm DCT my tranny would not suffice or at least I would have to change out clutches every 10-15k miles depending how hard I drive it, so I'm doing a 4.0 low compression build .
Starting a thread next week once all my parts come in and ill be posting step by step pictures

stay tuned

F@ck, I think I need to call Roman back regarding my possible build...

Jbook · 01-27-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Plutonium

F@ck, I think I need to call Roman back regarding my possible build...

I KNOW you need to call Roman back regarding your build

BMRLVR · 01-27-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

The new M5 & M6 DCT has Thicker gears.... Basically beef'd up

I am pretty sure the gears are not the issue with the M3, it is the clutches that don't hold. That is not to say you aren't right in saying that the gears are beefed up in the M5/6 DCT's, but I am sure the clutch is considerably stronger as well!

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pbonsalb Major Drives: 08 E90 M3, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 1,204 iTrader: (3)	Aren't transmissions and clutches rated by torque? And hasn't the DCT been upgraded for use in the M5 and M6 that uses a twin turbo V8 that should make as much or more torque in stock form as any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65? And isn't that DCT holding the added torque from tuned versions of the M5 and M6 that are definitely making more torque than any centrifugal supercharged stroked S65 will make? Not sure what it would cost to upgrade the DCT to M5/M6 specs, but if you can afford a stroker kit, an intercooled supercharger kit, and custom tuning, then you don't need to ask about costs.

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