Window Tint Question

Tobbep · 06-12-2012, 04:47 PM

I had my windows tinted at the BMW delearship about 4 to 5 weeks ago. I have these areas at the top of the rear window that will not go away. I have taken the car back a few times and they keep on saying that it is because of the dot matrix and it will never get better because it won't stick correctly.

Any input would be appreciated as I'm not what I should do. Is this a problem that is normal due to the dot matrix or am I just getting the run arounds.

Thanks...

ILSMKU · 06-12-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobbep

I had my windows tinted at the BMW delearship about 4 to 5 weeks ago. I have these areas at the top of the rear window that will not go away. I have taken the car back a few times and they keep on saying that it is because of the dot matrix and it will never get better because it won't stick correctly.

Any input would be appreciated as I'm not what I should do. Is this a problem that is normal due to the dot matrix or am I just getting the run arounds.

Thanks...

Random! I was just talking about this with my local body shop (bmw approved body shop).

They said one way to combat the milky white dot matrix area is to use a torch on the outside of the window prior to laying the tint down across the dot matrix. At least thats how this body shop said there tinter does it.

Ive been told that other tint installers might sand the dot matrix down some. I would prefer they dont do that to mine, so I wouldnt go this route.

Ive had another tint shop say they just use black vinyl wrap across the dot matrix.

Im going to have mine done by the guy who used the torch method. I saw his work and it was perfect.

Sounds like you need to go teach your guy how to do it or go find another guy. GL.

Mine is literally all milky and totally ugly.

ILSMKU · 06-12-2012, 06:26 PM

Check this out...

tibra1 · 06-12-2012, 06:28 PM

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THE TECH · 06-12-2012, 08:10 PM

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Interesting option.

leo95se · 06-12-2012, 08:32 PM

its on my car too. works perfectly!

Denk · 06-12-2012, 08:58 PM

My tint shop used black vinyl over the dot matrix. It blends in nicely for a very clean finished look.

Tobbep · 06-13-2012, 12:44 PM

Thanks for the input. I will see if I can have that done to my M3 by someone else.

I have a feeling he did not recommend that because it would require some extra work. I never understood why so many people only give you a half-a** effort and then tell you sorry just deal with it. They always find some way of justifying why it looks like crap.

Oh well, just another reason why it is better to do things yourself...

tbone28 · 06-13-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

My tint shop used black vinyl over the dot matrix. It blends in nicely for a very clean finished look.

Can you post pics? I think the vinyl flows better with darker tint. I plan on a 50% tint and not so sure dark vinyl will look nice.

Denk · 06-13-2012, 10:02 PM

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Can you post pics? I think the vinyl flows better with darker tint. I plan on a 50% tint and not so sure dark vinyl will look nice.

Sorry for the crappy pics, too much reflection but should give you an idea. I've got Suntek Carbon 55% tint. I'm really happy with the black vinyl dot matrix solution and I'm picky.

ILSMKU · 06-13-2012, 10:14 PM

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Can you post pics? I think the vinyl flows better with darker tint. I plan on a 50% tint and not so sure dark vinyl will look nice.

Sorry for the crappy pics, too much reflection but should give you an idea. I've got Suntek Carbon 55% tint. I'm really happy with the black vinyl dot matrix solution and I'm picky.

Gorgeous car! I love the rims!

Denk · 06-13-2012, 10:21 PM

^ Thanks! I just put them on last week, HRE P43SC's in tinted clear.

tbone28 · 06-13-2012, 10:42 PM

Thank you. 55% is close to what I want. It flows better than I had imagined.

mark896 · 06-14-2012, 08:10 PM

Bottom line, don't let them tell you that garbage about how "the dot matrix is un-tintable". I was told the same and received a garbage-ass tint job. I got it fixed by a guy in New Jersey who did it PERFECTLY. Including the dot matrix on both side windows. He used Suntek Carbon film.

Find someone who knows what they're doing.

tlp · 06-14-2012, 08:26 PM

The key is to smooth the surface using steel wool to thin the dots and a blow blowtorch on the outside during application/bonding. My tinter is the dot matrix whisperer.

tbone28 · 06-14-2012, 08:27 PM

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Bottom line, don't let them tell you that garbage about how "the dot matrix is un-tintable". I was told the same and received a garbage-ass tint job. I got it fixed by a guy in New Jersey who did it PERFECTLY. Including the dot matrix on both side windows. He used Suntek Carbon film.

Find someone who knows what they're doing.

That's the goal. What application technique did he use? I"m sure it's more install skill than tint film brand

tlp · 06-14-2012, 08:34 PM

Using a black strip over the dot matrix is a tinters apology.

tibra1 · 06-14-2012, 08:39 PM

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The key is to smooth the surface using steel wool to thin the dots and a blow blowtorch on the outside during application/bonding. My tinter is the dot matrix whisperer.

Say waaa..steel wool and a blow torch on glass??

tlp · 06-14-2012, 08:46 PM

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Say waaa..steel wool and a blow torch on glass??

Works like a charm. My guy has been tinting non-stop for over 20yrs. He tints e9X's in his sleep.

tibra1 · 06-14-2012, 08:48 PM

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Works like a charm. My guy has been tinting non-stop for over 20yrs. He tints e9X's in his sleep.

Any videos I am really interested to see this.

mark896 · 06-14-2012, 08:53 PM

Mine used nothing of the sort. He simply knows what he's doing.

tbone28 · 06-14-2012, 08:57 PM

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Mine used nothing of the sort. He simply knows what he's doing.

How did he do it?

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Denk Major Drives: 2012 e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,080 iTrader: (0)	My tint shop used black vinyl over the dot matrix. It blends in nicely for a very clean finished look.

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Denk Major Drives: 2012 e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,080 iTrader: (0)	^ Thanks! I just put them on last week, HRE P43SC's in tinted clear.

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tbone28 vvvvvvvvvvvvvv Drives: ^^^^^ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,274 iTrader: (10)	Thank you. 55% is close to what I want. It flows better than I had imagined.

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mark896 Warrant Officer Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 432 iTrader: (0)	Bottom line, don't let them tell you that garbage about how "the dot matrix is un-tintable". I was told the same and received a garbage-ass tint job. I got it fixed by a guy in New Jersey who did it PERFECTLY. Including the dot matrix on both side windows. He used Suntek Carbon film. Find someone who knows what they're doing.

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tlp Lieutenant Colonel Drives: '11 e92 M3 SG/FR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,659 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW e92 M3 [4.55] 2003 BMW e46 M3 \| Sold [0.00] 1996 BMW e36 M3 \| Sold [0.00]	The key is to smooth the surface using steel wool to thin the dots and a blow blowtorch on the outside during application/bonding. My tinter is the dot matrix whisperer.

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tlp Lieutenant Colonel Drives: '11 e92 M3 SG/FR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 1,659 iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW e92 M3 [4.55] 2003 BMW e46 M3 \| Sold [0.00] 1996 BMW e36 M3 \| Sold [0.00]	Using a black strip over the dot matrix is a tinters apology.

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mark896 Warrant Officer Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 432 iTrader: (0)	Mine used nothing of the sort. He simply knows what he's doing.