Finally decided on a set of coilovers

biggynuts01 · 12-27-2012, 03:57 PM

After researching and going over tcks, nitrons, jrzs, ohlins, moton s/a, asts, and sachs, I was sure I didnt want kw since they are mass made and you get set spring rates. I really wanted to get a something nice but within reasonable cost.

Price wise tcks sa or da were a steal but once you add on camber plates they are not really a bargain. They have great reviews...hell all the brands listed above have great reveiws, but one other drawback to these coilovers are the finish. From looking at the photos, they look very unattractive. I know it shouldnt be a big factor since they have a long proven history of great performance but I still had a hard time dealing with the aesthetics.

Nitrons, badazz kits that no really runs in the U.S. Rebuildable, 2 way adjustable from a single knob like the JRZ RS1s. And priced very well $2700 for the R1 and $3200 for the R1+ with camber plates and monoball mount. However, there is not much support in the US and it would be a pain having to get the revalving done. Also, im not sure I wanted a real coilover rear setup.

Finally the flagship! The stuff I really wanted. They are sooo pretty. MCS, Moton, JRZ, and ASTs all seem reasonably priced until you start adding all the little components needed to get it right...helper springs, adapter sleeves, rear height adjusters, helper springs, helper couplers, springs, camber plates, thrust sheets/torrington bearings, and etc...At first I thought I could be get one of these set ups for a reasonable price of ~$3k but after pricing a decent setup together I was in the $4k ballpark.

Although I almost pulled the trigger on the JRZ RS1 i really couldnt justify paying $4k for a suspension that I will rarely track. I might see the track at most 4 times a year. My car is not even a DD anymore. Its my weekend car that will barely see much track.

So what did I end up picking? .....drum roll.....

KW Clubsports

why? for ~$2.5k I get camber plates, linear alloy springs, ~500/800lb rates, helper springs, bump comp and rebound settings, ...nothing else needed. Also the new versions are easier to adjust since they have knobs instead of needing a dang allen wrench. Also I wanted an adjustment that gives click feedback an they do.

Also, I picked CS over V3s because of linear springs, the weight (CS are about 5lbs lighter than V3s), and camber plates.

Hopefully I made the right choice and wont have any buyers remorse.

Thanks to all for the help and advice, especially M3SQRD.

Anyway, i figure this post may help others in the decision making progress. I will give a review after I get it installed.

THE TECH · 12-27-2012, 04:13 PM

Good luck. Sounds like you did thorough research.

sensi09 · 12-27-2012, 05:35 PM

Nice post. Good luck with the setup

CSanto · 12-27-2012, 06:00 PM

CS are 2500? I thought more like 3k-3200

biggynuts01 · 12-27-2012, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSanto

CS are 2500? I thought more like 3k-3200

Contact Hendrik @ Baan Velgen he can give you a pretty sweet deal. He is a sponsor of the forum.

I couldn't pass up his offer.

CSanto · 12-27-2012, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggynuts01

Contact Hendrik @ Baan Velgen he can give you a pretty sweet deal. He is a sponsor of the forum.

I couldn't pass up his offer.

Thanks!

paradocs98 · 12-27-2012, 10:18 PM

Good job--sounds like you were honest with yourself regarding your needs.

Malek · 12-29-2012, 02:18 AM

You know who to call.

M3SQRD · 12-29-2012, 10:43 AM

Congrats on finally selecting a suspension

CBS · 12-29-2012, 03:32 PM

Congrats and Enjoy!

Thanks for the post.

kaiv · 12-30-2012, 07:59 AM

Sounds like you are barely driving the car at all!

If I were you I'd consider just getting springs and camber plates for ~750 and spend what you saved on more track days

Zzhou · 01-02-2013, 09:39 AM

Congrats! $2500 for a KW CS is awesome! I think it beats all other kits at this price range. I will definitely consider it when i shop for suspension.

biggynuts01 · 01-02-2013, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhouzitao

Congrats! $2500 for a KW CS is awesome! I think it beats all other kits at this price range. I will definitely consider it when i shop for suspension.

I agree it was the best value. I will report back once I recieve them from Baan Velgen and I will post a quick review after installation.

BIU · 01-03-2013, 04:53 AM

How has your experience with Baan Velgen been in regards to your order / shipment? (Price factor aside)

They are a relatively new vendor on the site and I could barely find any reviews for them..

Reason being I might take a look at them for a set of V3s..

k-lo · 01-03-2013, 05:49 AM

that's a great price for CS!

E92inSG · 01-03-2013, 06:04 AM

Me and my friends have used baan velgen numerous times and ordered serveral thousand euros worth of parts from BMW OEM parts like steering wheel and carbon spoiler to full akraprovic EVO exhaust and rims/tires combo.

Their communication has been excellent and hendrik always seems to reply emails almost immediately.

Shipping is always fast and updates forthcoming. I'm a baan velgen fanboy for sure.

biggynuts01 · 01-03-2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIU

How has your experience with Baan Velgen been in regards to your order / shipment? (Price factor aside)

They are a relatively new vendor on the site and I could barely find any reviews for them..

Reason being I might take a look at them for a set of V3s..

Im still waiting on shipment. Hendrik of Baan Velgen has been communicating promptly and says the order will take a couple weeks due to the holidays. I will updated as soon as I recieve the coilovers.

Bmw135er · 01-06-2013, 10:44 AM

I went to order them today. Then as I added them to the cart, I noticed the tax is $519.62. I guess that must account for shipping to the US and negates any real "deal" that they offer.

biggynuts01 · 01-06-2013, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

I went to order them today. Then as I added them to the cart, I noticed the tax is $519.62. I guess that must account for shipping to the US and negates any real "deal" that they offer.

That's VAT, once you specifiy that you are shipping outside of Europe its removed. I paid zero tax and just a ~$100 for shipping.

Bmw135er · 01-06-2013, 10:59 AM

Good to know. Thanks!

BIU · 01-08-2013, 07:58 PM

After a few nice chats with Hendrik and his confirmation of a couple of my concerns with the logistics side of things...

I have also pulled the trigger on a set of V3s

biggynuts01 · 01-18-2013, 09:37 AM

KW CS are on there way from the Netherlands! Should be in the States by the end of the month.

12-27-2012, 03:57 PM	#1
biggynuts01 Captain Drives: E92 M3 SG coupe Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 674 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 Porsche Cayman S [0.00] 2008 BMW E92 M3 [4.75]	Finally decided on a set of coilovers After researching and going over tcks, nitrons, jrzs, ohlins, moton s/a, asts, and sachs, I was sure I didnt want kw since they are mass made and you get set spring rates. I really wanted to get a something nice but within reasonable cost. Price wise tcks sa or da were a steal but once you add on camber plates they are not really a bargain. They have great reviews...hell all the brands listed above have great reveiws, but one other drawback to these coilovers are the finish. From looking at the photos, they look very unattractive. I know it shouldnt be a big factor since they have a long proven history of great performance but I still had a hard time dealing with the aesthetics. Nitrons, badazz kits that no really runs in the U.S. Rebuildable, 2 way adjustable from a single knob like the JRZ RS1s. And priced very well $2700 for the R1 and $3200 for the R1+ with camber plates and monoball mount. However, there is not much support in the US and it would be a pain having to get the revalving done. Also, im not sure I wanted a real coilover rear setup. Finally the flagship! The stuff I really wanted. They are sooo pretty. MCS, Moton, JRZ, and ASTs all seem reasonably priced until you start adding all the little components needed to get it right...helper springs, adapter sleeves, rear height adjusters, helper springs, helper couplers, springs, camber plates, thrust sheets/torrington bearings, and etc...At first I thought I could be get one of these set ups for a reasonable price of ~$3k but after pricing a decent setup together I was in the $4k ballpark. Although I almost pulled the trigger on the JRZ RS1 i really couldnt justify paying $4k for a suspension that I will rarely track. I might see the track at most 4 times a year. My car is not even a DD anymore. Its my weekend car that will barely see much track. So what did I end up picking? .....drum roll..... KW Clubsports why? for ~$2.5k I get camber plates, linear alloy springs, ~500/800lb rates, helper springs, bump comp and rebound settings, ...nothing else needed. Also the new versions are easier to adjust since they have knobs instead of needing a dang allen wrench. Also I wanted an adjustment that gives click feedback an they do. Also, I picked CS over V3s because of linear springs, the weight (CS are about 5lbs lighter than V3s), and camber plates. Hopefully I made the right choice and wont have any buyers remorse. Thanks to all for the help and advice, especially M3SQRD. Anyway, i figure this post may help others in the decision making progress. I will give a review after I get it installed. __________________ 2013 X3 XDrive28i - Stock 2008 E92 M3 SG DCT Extended - AA Filter, JL Audio 600/6, CDT Audio, Verstraβe Paddles, ECS SS, BMW Performance Spoiler, MH race studs, BMW GTS wheels, Stoptech ST, AP CF Intake pipe, MS Pulleys, Eibach, MR Exhaust, BPM Tune, LTBMW 1M Bumper, MotoGP Lip, Euro MDM, LCI's , KW CS, TMS Soild Diff Mounts. 2008 Porsche CS - GT3 kit, Sprintbooster (SOLD) Last edited by biggynuts01; 12-27-2012 at 09:26 PM.
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Zzhou Lieutenant Drives: 2012 E92 SSII ZCP DCT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: West Lafayette,IN/Shanghai,China Posts: 522 iTrader: (0)	Congrats! $2500 for a KW CS is awesome! I think it beats all other kits at this price range. I will definitely consider it when i shop for suspension. __________________ AA Green Filter/AA Pulley/AA catless X-pipes/AA signature exhaust/AA TUNE/TMS studs/Project Kics R40/AD08/Vorsteiner GTS5 Bumper/LUX H8

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sensi09 Major Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: socal Posts: 1,492 iTrader: (1)	Nice post. Good luck with the setup

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CSanto Major Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,317 iTrader: (1)	CS are 2500? I thought more like 3k-3200

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12-29-2012, 10:43 AM	#9
M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,347 iTrader: (2)	Congrats on finally selecting a suspension

12-30-2012, 07:59 AM	#11
kaiv Major Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,117 iTrader: (12)	Sounds like you are barely driving the car at all! If I were you I'd consider just getting springs and camber plates for ~750 and spend what you saved on more track days

01-03-2013, 04:53 AM	#14
BIU First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 A22 E90 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 315 iTrader: (0)	How has your experience with Baan Velgen been in regards to your order / shipment? (Price factor aside) They are a relatively new vendor on the site and I could barely find any reviews for them.. Reason being I might take a look at them for a set of V3s..

01-03-2013, 05:49 AM	#15
k-lo Private Drives: 2011 M3 ZCP, 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 52 iTrader: (0)	that's a great price for CS!

01-03-2013, 06:04 AM	#16
E92inSG Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Asia Posts: 138 iTrader: (0)	Me and my friends have used baan velgen numerous times and ordered serveral thousand euros worth of parts from BMW OEM parts like steering wheel and carbon spoiler to full akraprovic EVO exhaust and rims/tires combo. Their communication has been excellent and hendrik always seems to reply emails almost immediately. Shipping is always fast and updates forthcoming. I'm a baan velgen fanboy for sure. __________________ 2009 Interlagos Blue E92 VOLK RACING\|BILSTEIN\|AKRAPOVIC\|ARKYM\|KICS\|LUX\|BMW PERFORMANCE\|ESS\|BREMBO Last edited by E92inSG; 01-08-2013 at 09:26 PM.

01-06-2013, 10:44 AM	#18
Bmw135er Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,370 iTrader: (9)	I went to order them today. Then as I added them to the cart, I noticed the tax is $519.62. I guess that must account for shipping to the US and negates any real "deal" that they offer.

01-06-2013, 10:59 AM	#20
Bmw135er Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,370 iTrader: (9)	Good to know. Thanks!

01-08-2013, 07:58 PM	#21
BIU First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 A22 E90 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 315 iTrader: (0)	After a few nice chats with Hendrik and his confirmation of a couple of my concerns with the logistics side of things... I have also pulled the trigger on a set of V3s

01-18-2013, 09:37 AM	#22
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