Branded/ lemon title

alex.racer · 12-24-2012, 03:30 PM

Hi guys. In these day I found a really nice Fully loaded E92 A/W M3. I test the car, everything I am satisfied with. Only problem are tires are not good and branded title. It's 43k miles 09 car. No dent, how much I should offer him? I think market value for clean title car around 42k. Thanks all guys. Merry Christmas.

Chriskm3 · 12-24-2012, 03:52 PM

Stay away. Branded titles are trouble. Way too many Unknowns. The seller will not tell you the whole story. One the story that helps him close the deal. with branded cars you could have a flooded car. Tons of electrical issues. No warranty.
Accident repaired car . It's a 50 50 chance on those. The extent of damage is in question. If you can get the pic before repair was done, then you can estimate on the type of damage sustained. In many cases even after the car has been repaired there are possible issues with alignment, uneven tire wear, rust, and the integrity of the subframe. I remember hearing a story of a car literally breaking in half after being involved In a collision due to improper subframe cutting and welding work. keep in mind all these cars will pass safety and emmisions and are bargains at times but at what price.
Let us know what you decide

S65NAPWR · 12-24-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Stay away. Branded titles are trouble. Way too many Unknowns. The seller will not tell you the whole story. One the story that helps him close the deal. with branded cars you could have a flooded car. Tons of electrical issues. No warranty.
Accident repaired car . It's a 50 50 chance on those. The extent of damage is in question. If you can get the pic before repair was done, then you can estimate on the type of damage sustained. In many cases even after the car has been repaired there are possible issues with alignment, uneven tire wear, rust, and the integrity of the subframe. I remember hearing a story of a car literally breaking in half after being involved In a collision due to improper subframe cutting and welding work. keep in mind all these cars will pass safety and emmisions and are bargains at times but at what price.
Let us know what you decide

+100. It was bad enough to have a branded title, that means the chances that car will be "right" is highly unlikely. Stay away, it's not worth the unknown headaches and costs.

chris s · 12-24-2012, 04:34 PM

$42k for an 09 with 43k miles and a lemon title??? Seems high and I would stay away regardless....

alex.racer · 12-24-2012, 05:58 PM

Thanks for all your guys. This car not sell 42k. It's about 38k. It shows non accident on record. But didn't show what the problem was.

alex.racer · 12-24-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by S65NAPWR

+100. It was bad enough to have a branded title, that means the chances that car will be "right" is highly unlikely. Stay away, it's not worth the unknown headaches and costs.

Thanks a lot

alex.racer · 12-24-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Stay away. Branded titles are trouble. Way too many Unknowns. The seller will not tell you the whole story. One the story that helps him close the deal. with branded cars you could have a flooded car. Tons of electrical issues. No warranty.
Accident repaired car . It's a 50 50 chance on those. The extent of damage is in question. If you can get the pic before repair was done, then you can estimate on the type of damage sustained. In many cases even after the car has been repaired there are possible issues with alignment, uneven tire wear, rust, and the integrity of the subframe. I remember hearing a story of a car literally breaking in half after being involved In a collision due to improper subframe cutting and welding work. keep in mind all these cars will pass safety and emmisions and are bargains at times but at what price.
Let us know what you decide

It's a private party, he owned that car about a year and a half. He told me its the battery problem. Ask for 42k, now it's 37k

S65NAPWR · 12-24-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alex.racer

It's a private party, he owned that car about a year and a half. He told me its the battery problem. Ask for 42k, now it's 37k

Usually when something is too good to be true, it isn't. Just saying. But hey, if you're sure the guy is trustworthy, go ahead and buy it.

m3buckeye · 12-24-2012, 09:56 PM

Unless the price is a giveaway, move on to another.

Just sayin.'

alex.racer · 12-24-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by S65NAPWR

Usually when something is too good to be true, it isn't. Just saying. But hey, if you're sure the guy is trustworthy, go ahead and buy it.

Thanks.

dreamspeed · 12-25-2012, 05:40 PM

I'd roll the dice on a cheap beater car for like 5k but not on something over 35k with expensive repairs AND German "reliability" lol

mkPOTO · 12-26-2012, 12:05 AM

Was it lemoned from BMW? If so you can call bmwna and they can give you a lst and info of why and what was done

alex.racer · 12-26-2012, 07:22 AM

I have asked, but they didn't tell me any information about that.

1LRM3 · 12-27-2012, 07:22 AM

nothing for nothing... a battery issue typical would not yield a branded title....i would pass.

chrisv_335EBII · 12-27-2012, 09:21 AM

Get him down closer to 30K and I would consider it. 32-33K is fair for a branded title. I would recommend you take it to a decent independent german shop and have them do a complete inspection.

If he owned the car since new he should have some documentation from BMW on why the car was lemoned.

alex.racer · 12-27-2012, 01:32 PM

Thanks for all your guys, you're really helpful. I have already passed the car.

12-24-2012, 03:30 PM	#1
alex.racer Enlisted Member Drives: Audi TT/10 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	Branded/ lemon title Hi guys. In these day I found a really nice Fully loaded E92 A/W M3. I test the car, everything I am satisfied with. Only problem are tires are not good and branded title. It's 43k miles 09 car. No dent, how much I should offer him? I think market value for clean title car around 42k. Thanks all guys. Merry Christmas.
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12-24-2012, 04:34 PM	#4
chris s Brigadier General Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 4,557 iTrader: (8)	$42k for an 09 with 43k miles and a lemon title??? Seems high and I would stay away regardless.... __________________ 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs 2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT \| AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!

12-25-2012, 05:40 PM	#11
dreamspeed Lieutenant Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 501 iTrader: (0)	I'd roll the dice on a cheap beater car for like 5k but not on something over 35k with expensive repairs AND German "reliability" lol __________________

12-26-2012, 12:05 AM	#12
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12-24-2012, 03:52 PM	#2
Chriskm3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,783 iTrader: (2)	Stay away. Branded titles are trouble. Way too many Unknowns. The seller will not tell you the whole story. One the story that helps him close the deal. with branded cars you could have a flooded car. Tons of electrical issues. No warranty. Accident repaired car . It's a 50 50 chance on those. The extent of damage is in question. If you can get the pic before repair was done, then you can estimate on the type of damage sustained. In many cases even after the car has been repaired there are possible issues with alignment, uneven tire wear, rust, and the integrity of the subframe. I remember hearing a story of a car literally breaking in half after being involved In a collision due to improper subframe cutting and welding work. keep in mind all these cars will pass safety and emmisions and are bargains at times but at what price. Let us know what you decide

12-24-2012, 05:58 PM	#5
alex.racer Enlisted Member Drives: Audi TT/10 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all your guys. This car not sell 42k. It's about 38k. It shows non accident on record. But didn't show what the problem was.

12-24-2012, 09:56 PM	#9
m3buckeye will bring some beers Drives: Cayenne S, e93, Yukon XL Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Kali Posts: 82 iTrader: (0)	Unless the price is a giveaway, move on to another. Just sayin.'

12-26-2012, 07:22 AM	#13
alex.racer Enlisted Member Drives: Audi TT/10 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	I have asked, but they didn't tell me any information about that.

12-27-2012, 07:22 AM	#14
1LRM3 Private First Class Drives: LR M3 E92 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: CT<-->SC Posts: 141 iTrader: (1)	nothing for nothing... a battery issue typical would not yield a branded title....i would pass.

12-27-2012, 09:21 AM	#15
chrisv_335EBII Private First Class Drives: 335i 6sp EBII Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 193 iTrader: (0)	Get him down closer to 30K and I would consider it. 32-33K is fair for a branded title. I would recommend you take it to a decent independent german shop and have them do a complete inspection. If he owned the car since new he should have some documentation from BMW on why the car was lemoned.

12-27-2012, 01:32 PM	#16
alex.racer Enlisted Member Drives: Audi TT/10 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all your guys, you're really helpful. I have already passed the car.