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      08-16-2007, 04:18 PM   #23
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It is bound to be very expensive, thus largely irrelevant for most of us. CSL at almost the same price as the regular M... Now we are talking.


Unbelievable.........

Would you expect Audi to sell an RS model near the same price as an "S" model????

GO back to your cave........ Audi troll!
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      08-16-2007, 04:25 PM   #24
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Before owners added back in the stereo and air/con, the E46 CSL was 120kg lighter.
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I agree...too much!!
but are you sure that the journalists had the possibility to use their scales?or simply they used the weights that BMW has given them during the press conference?...
No, I am absolutely *not* sure about the weight. I have a bet with GregW / Oregon about this (he's betting under 3500 pounds, and I'm saying over 3600), and I half hope that he wins.

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No, I am absolutely *not* sure about the weight. I have a bet with GregW / Oregon about this (he's betting under 3500 pounds, and I'm saying over 3600), and I half hope that he wins.

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Hey, Bruce, I hope I win also, for two reasons!
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Here is some weight info/discussion:

"Despite the weight-saving roof structure, the fact the compact new V8 actually weighs 15kg less than the current M3's inline six and that in base 323i guise (1405kg) the E92 coupe sheds a further 15kg (over its direct E46 predecessor, the 320Ci), it's dissapointing to see the M3's overall weight increase - particularly after so much talk of weight-saving and BMW's latest "EfficientDynamics" mantra.

For the record, the new M3's unladen EU weight (including 68kg for driver, 7kg for luggage and a 90 per cent full fuel tank) rises a considerable 85kg - from 1570kg to 1655kg. BMW Australia quotes kerb weights of 1495kg (E46 M3) and 1580kg (E92 M3) respectively.

BMW says the extra weight is the result of the bigger two-door body, extra equipment and superior crashworthiness but points out it is still 100kg lighter than its most direct rival in the Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG coupe (1755kg).

However, the model that has established Audi as a serious player in the compact performance car stakes in recent times, the wild RS4 sedan (also available in Avant and Cabriolet bodystyles), weighs 5kg less at 1650kg, packs a larger 4.2-litre V8 with the same 309kW and even more torque (430Nm) and comes standard with all-wheel drive."

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http://www1.autotrader.com.au/mellor...2573130081A3EA
RS4's weight do not include 68kg for driver, 7kg for luggage but include 90 per cent full fuel tank.

M3(1580kg) is 70kg lighter than RS4(1650).
or M3(1655kg) v.s RS4(1725kg) These number is in BMW official press.
I am sure that these number is correct.

E92 M3's weight is 1580kg in Australia M3's press . 85KG(188lb) heavier than E46 M3.

Sorry my bad English.
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      08-16-2007, 10:59 PM   #28
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No, I am absolutely *not* sure about the weight. I have a bet with GregW / Oregon about this (he's betting under 3500 pounds, and I'm saying over 3600), and I half hope that he wins.

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Now, the dreaded question: what kind of weight is that you guys are betting over? Unladen weight? Curb weight? If you let us know, we can make a ruling in advance.
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Power: Naturally aspirated M 5.8L V8 520bhp 410ft-lb@4600rpm
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