M3 GTS dyno?

Munit · 12-02-2012, 03:44 PM

Never have seen a CRT or GTS dyno around and not sure how that is possible on google. These are the uber performance minded guys or shops buying these so I would think someone would have tried a dyno. Willing to bet they put down a good 430 to the wheels and the 450 stated hp is a big old underestimatation given how much faster this thing seems to be then a normal m3 (I know itis lighter etc as well)

burakkose · 12-02-2012, 03:57 PM

well the m3 gts costs around 370k euros so...

SleepyE90 · 12-02-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by burakkose

well the m3 gts costs around 370k euros so...

more like 150...

mhabs · 12-02-2012, 04:41 PM

Think the few tests that were done on this car were high 3's/low 4s to 60 mph/100kph, high 8s 0-100 mph, high 11s/low 12s for 1/4 mile. Nurburgring time of 7:48 (vs 8.05 for regular M3 manual gearbox). Seems like performance is completely consistent with 444 hp/ 7.6-7.7x weight lbs to hp ratio for straight line and in addition to the power/weight advatanges the GTS has better suspension/aerodynamics vs regular M3s for track performance. Doesn't seem to be underrated power wise. Interestingly, if the F80 M3 is truly lighter vs the E9x and has around 450 hp, one could expect almost as good performance from the F80 M3 as the E9x M3 GTS and CRT (obviously, larger size, more supple suspension, and lack of aggressive downforce generating aids will work against the F80, but should be pretty close in theory to GTS/CRT).

burakkose · 12-02-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SleepyE90

more like 150...

mate, you'd be surprised to see the price tag here in Turkey...

http://bmw.com.tr/tr/en/general/price_list/indexa.html
base prices...

burakkose · 12-02-2012, 05:33 PM

there you go...

check the price tag, euros...

1SICKM · 12-02-2012, 06:09 PM

430whp no friggin way! More like 375whp

Munit · 12-02-2012, 09:22 PM

Considering normal m3's with a catless/HFC exhaust and an air filter make 375whp, I do not think a 4.4 L bored out factor motor is making the same power even with its cat's in place.

SleepyE90 · 12-08-2012, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by burakkose

mate, you'd be surprised to see the price tag here in Turkey...

http://bmw.com.tr/tr/en/general/price_list/indexa.html
base prices...

Quote:

Originally Posted by burakkose

there you go...

check the price tag, euros...

370k Euro after being converted from 846.872,81 Turkish Lira.
The GTS costs 150k Euro in EUROPE where the Euro is used and with no conversion...

1SICKM · 12-08-2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Munit

Considering normal m3's with a catless/HFC exhaust and an air filter make 375whp, I do not think a 4.4 L bored out factor motor is making the same power even with its cat's in place.

Comparing it to normal m3 does nothing for the comparison. All because it has a larger bore/stroke doesn't mean more hp. It will have more torque. Simple 15pct drivetrain loss puts the 4.4 motor at 378 whp.. The car has only 24 more hp at the crank which is approx 20whp...something you won't notice on the street. What you will feel is the additional torque provided by the 4.4 over the 4.0. Loose the cats on this motor and yes... It's over 400whp

burakkose · 12-09-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepyE90

370k Euro after being converted from 846.872,81 Turkish Lira.
The GTS costs 150k Euro in EUROPE where the Euro is used and with no conversion...

well our taxation is a biig burden.

Dovetonsils · 12-09-2012, 08:09 PM

Interestingly, if the F80 M3 is truly lighter vs the E9x and has around 450 hp, one could expect almost as good performance from the F80 M3 as the E9x M3 GTS and CRT (obviously, larger size, more supple suspension, and lack of aggressive downforce generating aids will work against the F80, but should be pretty close in theory to GTS/CRT).

Triple M · 12-12-2012, 01:10 AM

Always wonder how DTM guys were able to squeeze 480hp vs 45ohp(GTS) at the flywheel without stroking the motor. Insane (I believe they have restrictors too. ? more power possible). Insane. Even though the topic of how effiecient our intakes has been beaten to death

I can't get enough of the Motorsport24, DTM, & ALMS intakes. Truely makes me wonder. I guess I'm just going to have to blame it all on their elevation in europe where they are being dynoed, and I can be in peace

mrkhanna16 · 12-12-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by burakkose

well our taxation is a biig burden.

Nobody cares....

burakkose · 12-12-2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkhanna16

Nobody cares....

you hurt my feelings

i wonder if you were born brainless or got it removed

12-02-2012, 03:44 PM	#1
Munit Banned Drives: m3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CA Posts: 220 iTrader: (0)	M3 GTS dyno? Never have seen a CRT or GTS dyno around and not sure how that is possible on google. These are the uber performance minded guys or shops buying these so I would think someone would have tried a dyno. Willing to bet they put down a good 430 to the wheels and the 450 stated hp is a big old underestimatation given how much faster this thing seems to be then a normal m3 (I know itis lighter etc as well)
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mhabs Lieutenant Drives: M3 (E90) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 446 iTrader: (0)	Think the few tests that were done on this car were high 3's/low 4s to 60 mph/100kph, high 8s 0-100 mph, high 11s/low 12s for 1/4 mile. Nurburgring time of 7:48 (vs 8.05 for regular M3 manual gearbox). Seems like performance is completely consistent with 444 hp/ 7.6-7.7x weight lbs to hp ratio for straight line and in addition to the power/weight advatanges the GTS has better suspension/aerodynamics vs regular M3s for track performance. Doesn't seem to be underrated power wise. Interestingly, if the F80 M3 is truly lighter vs the E9x and has around 450 hp, one could expect almost as good performance from the F80 M3 as the E9x M3 GTS and CRT (obviously, larger size, more supple suspension, and lack of aggressive downforce generating aids will work against the F80, but should be pretty close in theory to GTS/CRT). Last edited by mhabs; 12-02-2012 at 04:48 PM.

12-02-2012, 05:33 PM	#6
burakkose Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Istanbul Posts: 140 iTrader: (0)	there you go... check the price tag, euros... __________________ I ///M Back ! www.twitter.com/verykingman

12-02-2012, 06:09 PM	#7
1SICKM Captain Drives: 2009 M3 E92 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Mansfield, NJ Posts: 858 iTrader: (5)	430whp no friggin way! More like 375whp __________________ E92 M3 DCT...Powered by ESS VT2 650 Aquamist HFS-3 CURRENT WORLD RECORD HOLDER 1/4 MILE - 12/7/12 (ESS VT2 625, Meth Off) ATCO RACEWAY: 10.65 @ 131.79MPH 1.725 60FT

12-02-2012, 09:22 PM	#8
Munit Banned Drives: m3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CA Posts: 220 iTrader: (0)	Considering normal m3's with a catless/HFC exhaust and an air filter make 375whp, I do not think a 4.4 L bored out factor motor is making the same power even with its cat's in place.

12-09-2012, 08:09 PM	#12
Dovetonsils Banned Drives: nice Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: baode Posts: 62 iTrader: (0)	Interestingly, if the F80 M3 is truly lighter vs the E9x and has around 450 hp, one could expect almost as good performance from the F80 M3 as the E9x M3 GTS and CRT (obviously, larger size, more supple suspension, and lack of aggressive downforce generating aids will work against the F80, but should be pretty close in theory to GTS/CRT).

12-12-2012, 01:10 AM	#13
Triple M Doc Rebel! Drives: Fire Orange M3, X5M, Blk 135 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 76 iTrader: (0)	Always wonder how DTM guys were able to squeeze 480hp vs 45ohp(GTS) at the flywheel without stroking the motor. Insane (I believe they have restrictors too. ? more power possible). Insane. Even though the topic of how effiecient our intakes has been beaten to death I can't get enough of the Motorsport24, DTM, & ALMS intakes. Truely makes me wonder. I guess I'm just going to have to blame it all on their elevation in europe where they are being dynoed, and I can be in peace

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