Best coilover kit

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-21-2012, 01:37 PM

hi i currently have the rd sport springs on my car and i am looking to upgrade to coilovers. i have been looking around for a while now but cannot decide which is the best all around. My choices are kw v3s, kw clubsports, ground control kit, bill stein pss10. I track about 3 to 4 times a month so i want something more rough compared to a smooth ride. Please let me know any suggestions you guys have on shocks or coil over kits. thank you so much

phrozen06 · 11-21-2012, 02:14 PM

clear your mailbox.

tom @ eas · 11-21-2012, 02:23 PM

Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-21-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.

Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?

tom @ eas · 11-21-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?

Don't know many people with the GC kits, so I wouldn't be the one to ask.

We did place 3rd using the KW Motorsport kit in GTA just a couple of weeks ago, KW was part of the team that made it happen.

Rapture · 11-21-2012, 03:35 PM

After going from the Ground Control kit to KW V3 I can say there is a night and day difference. I can assume the KW Clubsport is even better than the already great KW V3, but seems to be more track oriented which is why I went V3 for my daily driver. I got my set up from EAS and had them install and I couldn't be happier.

I would strongly recommend to stay away from Ground Control though, I had nothing but bad experiences with their product and customer service.

bigjae1976 · 11-22-2012, 01:03 PM

3-4 times per month? Damn!

Why not just go all out and get something like the Moton or MCS?

Porschefile · 11-22-2012, 01:42 PM

If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.

Team Plutonium · 11-22-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Porschefile

If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.

+1!

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-22-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Porschefile

If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.

Moton and mcs are a little pricey for me. i am looking for something in the price range of about 2 to 3k. Can you let me know what you guys recommend besides the kw cs. thank you so much

bigjae1976 · 11-22-2012, 08:46 PM

TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-22-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.

thank you!!

M3SQRD · 11-23-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

TC Kline.

+1 for TC Kline suspension options

Also, if you are willing to wait, the Ohlins R&T (DFV) suspension should be released soon.

For a ~$500 over your budget you could get a JRZ RS1 setup.

Endless619 · 11-23-2012, 11:13 AM

I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

Good luck.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Endless619

I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

Good luck.

thank you so much for your help. Where can you get aragosta coilover for the e92 m3? And approximately how much do they go for?

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 12:04 PM

one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?

M3SQRD · 11-23-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?

The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?

e92livin · 11-23-2012, 12:21 PM

If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by M3SQRD

The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?

exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by e92livin

If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD

i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.

M3SQRD · 11-23-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?

If you are considering TCK suspension setups then I'd recommend contacting TCK, BimmerWorld or VAC directly and discussing with them your suspension goals.

For a more track-biased setup I'd recommend the TCK DA setup over the SA setup or JRZ, MCS or Ohlins dampers.

e92livin · 11-23-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.

do they all support EDC?

11-21-2012, 01:37 PM	#1
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bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,047 iTrader: (8)	3-4 times per month? Damn! Why not just go all out and get something like the Moton or MCS? __________________

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Porschefile Major Drives: E92 M3 DCT, E46, Formula Mazda Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,043 iTrader: (5)	If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though. __________________ #18 Formula Mazda, Southeast Division SCCA

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Rapture I'm suckin gas but I'm haulin ass Drives: 2011 MR E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: OC, CA Posts: 456 iTrader: (7)	After going from the Ground Control kit to KW V3 I can say there is a night and day difference. I can assume the KW Clubsport is even better than the already great KW V3, but seems to be more track oriented which is why I went V3 for my daily driver. I got my set up from EAS and had them install and I couldn't be happier. I would strongly recommend to stay away from Ground Control though, I had nothing but bad experiences with their product and customer service.

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bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,047 iTrader: (8)	TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives. __________________

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Endless619 DHS Drives: bmw x5, m3, Acura TL Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California/Maine Posts: 2,548 iTrader: (11)	I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck. However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc. I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup. Good luck.

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PayaumShoushaniE92 Private Drives: Black E92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: beverly hills Posts: 80 iTrader: (0)	one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?

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e92livin Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 259 iTrader: (2)	If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD

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