Terrible crash caused by an M3 driver in Germany

[Team Plutonium]

This is just terrible. A 20 year old male in a white e46 M3 drove against traffic (took the wrong on ramp) on the A5 Autobahn killing himself and 5 other people, tons of other folks were seriously injured.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/falsc...-a-867921.html

Unreal, and so sad. RIP.

[Red_Baron]

For non german speakers/readers..translated with google translate so you can get the gist of it. Really tragic.

The man who killed on Sunday by 6 clock five people and himself died was 20 years old. He came out of the room Offenburg in Baden and sat alone in his white BMW when he returned to the police in Lahr in the wrong direction on the highway ascended the fifth There was some fog.

Motorists reported the wrong way at the police headquarters in Offenburg, the police forwarded the information more promptly - the lives of five people they could not save yet.

Not five minutes after the first report of 20-year-old raced near the front parking lot Unditz in a minivan to a 30-year-old drew from Offenburg. Both drivers were killed instantly The impact was so violent that the engine block of the large-capacity car was thrown out.

Vans also died in the wreck of a 23-year-old and a 36-year-old and two men aged 26 and 27 years. All four are from the space Emmendingen.

Immediately after the collision, a defaulting driver stopped her car on the shoulder, apparently to provide counsel. It was overlooked by a subsequent car and rolled over. The 37-year-old suffered serious injuries here, as the police said. She is now out of danger. To the accident sequence based on current status of the investigation two other cars were involved, whose passengers were slightly injured.

"The emergency services are offered an awful picture," said the police spokesman. The accident site was littered with debris and wreckage.

Coroner, experts and staff of the prosecution rushed to the scene to reconstruct the accident and its cause. Fire Department, the Agency for Technical Relief (THW) and emergency services were in large scale operation. The highway between Offenburg and Lahr was closed until early afternoon.

On average 20 people a year die due to wrong-way driver

Suicidal intent, drugs, test of courage, disorientation: The reasons why motorists take the wrong ramp of a highway or operating on main roads into oncoming traffic may have different causes. The Auto Club Europa (ACE) points out that some driveways are simply too poorly signposted.

According to accident research, these cases are statistically rare. By wrong-way driver on average 20 people a year die. But in recent weeks it came to more severe accidents involving wrong-way drivers, so that this average has been exceeded this year alone in the months of October and November - although, according to the ADAC far there is no reliable evidence for the assumption that Geisterfahrer frequently in Autumn road.

Recently had a wrong-way driver in Sauerland - even on an early Sunday morning - caused an accident with five dead: He had gone according to the police in suicidal intent on the highway near Meschede into oncoming traffic and had four more people lost their lives in.

In Rhineland-Palatinate in mid-October were killed in a wrong-way driver accident, a father and two of his children. In Bavaria a few days earlier, five people were killed. Back then, a mentally ill woman had probably caused the accident, as she turned into oncoming traffic.

In early November came on the Highway 6 near Heilbronn a father and his three children were killed. End of October, there were on the A5 near Baden-Baden in a serious accident with four Toten.Die victims were two parents and their two children.

According to the Federal Ministry of Transport, there in about 1700 to 2000 messages that a wrong-way driver on the road - but it also includes mild runny incidents, errors and telephone jokes. Typically report other motorists continue the wrong way the police or radio stations. According to ADAC in Germany even 2800 cases were reported, including 2,000 on highways: Three percent of fatal accidents on motorways are caused by wrong-way drivers accordingly.

Most involuntary, so-called ghost tours go traffic researchers, from actually lightly, because a wrong-way driver who has realized his mistake, generally doing everything to avoid accidents as quickly as possible and to find a proper track.

But who seeks death holds, not the rules. Are relatively rare and the advice of such cases, the requirements for protective measures are, however, large: The German police union is pushing for the use of special-claws in the asphalt pavement. They are designed so that they damage already on the motorway only the tires of the wrong-way driver and stop him thus to the onward journey.

[larryn]

Terrible crash caused by an idiotic 20 y.o. kid in an M3....

Horrifically tragic, nonetheless.

[M3SQRD]

So tragic and sad - six avoidable deaths, RIP

[iamcpap]

Very sad. RIP. I often worry some moron is going to be coming up an off ramp here in Chicago. I see repors of it all the time. People need to slow down and look at their surroundings.

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by iamcpap

Very sad. RIP. I often worry some moron is going to be coming up an off ramp here in Chicago. I see repors of it all the time. People need to slow down and look at their surroundings.

Dear lord, Chicago is insane! What are you guys up to now? Over 500 traffic related deaths this year?

[iamcpap]

Originally Posted by Team Plutonium

Dear lord, Chicago is insane! What are you guys up to now? Over 500 traffic related deaths this year?

That board says 800+ now, but there is NO WAY that is just Chicago... Maybe nationwide? Illinois in total? That would be approximatley 3 people per day in Chicago alone... no way that is plausible...

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by larryn

Terrible crash caused by an idiotic 20 y.o. kid in an M3....

Horrifically tragic, nonetheless.

There is no need to call the young man names like you did. I have you know that drivers in Germany and most Europiean countries are highly trained and tested before they qualify for a drivers license.

Road conditions as you can see on the video were not ideal to say the least. We don't know why the young fellow was on the road during such unfavorable road conditions ... Perhaps he was on his way to see a family member in a difficult situation, we certainly don't know the circumstances until they are published.

Very tragic indeed when something like this happens, especially on the autobahn.

May they all rest in piece

[S65NAPWR]

Very tragic indeed and so many lives were lost in violent way. Rest in peace and god bless.

[The Archer]

Originally Posted by M3RD

There is no need to call the young man names like you did. I have you know that drivers in Germany and most Europiean countries are highly trained and tested before they qualify for a drivers license.

Road conditions as you can see on the video were not ideal to say the least. We don't know why the young fellow was on the road during such unfavorable road conditions ... Perhaps he was on his way to see a family member in a difficult situation, we certainly don't know the circumstances until they are published.

Very tragic indeed when something like this happens, especially on the autobahn.

May they all rest in piece

It was tragic, but preventable. This young lad hit the minivan with such impact that the van's engine block was thrown - this would translate into a high speed impact, which can be confirmed by the damage sustained by the M3.

While Austrian/German drivers are well trained, there is no substitute for experience - especially driving at such a high rate of speed in foggy conditions.. I'm sorry, but for all intensive purposes, the driver of the M3 drove like an idiot.

As a side note, google translate did a pretty poor job translating this one.

[DDS2015]

Originally Posted by BeMWeh

It was tragic, but preventable. This young lad hit the minivan with such impact that the van's engine block was thrown - this would translate into a high speed impact, which can be confirmed by the damage sustained by the M3.

While Austrian/German drivers are well trained, there is no substitute for experience - especially driving at such a high rate of speed in foggy conditions.. I'm sorry, but for all intensive purposes, the driver of the M3 drove like an idiot.

As a side note, google translate did a pretty poor job translating this one.

Sorry to grammar police you hear, but it's: for all intents and purposes.

As far as the crash, very tragic and very avoidable. Some mistakes cannot be taken back so drive safe out there people.

[spdy330]

Very sad!

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by BeMWeh

It was tragic, but preventable. T his young lad hit the minivan with such impact that the van's engine block was thrown - this would translate into a high speed impact, which can be confirmed by the damage sustained by the M3.

While Austrian/German drivers are well trained, there is no substitute for experience - especially driving at such a high rate of speed in foggy conditions.. I'm sorry, but for all intensive purposes, the driver of the M3 drove like an idiot.

As a side note, google translate did a pretty poor job translating this one.

I agree with your side note ... One should never use the Google Translator unless one is in total control as to what is to be translated and can make the required correction. Perhaps as an alternative one could use Google to find the subject matter written in English ...

Here is one example

http://Www.firegeezer.com/2012/10/21...leaves-5-dead/

[Lerxst M3]

Originally Posted by DDS2015

Sorry to grammar police you hear, but it's: for all intents and purposes.

As far as the crash, very tragic and very avoidable. Some mistakes cannot be taken back so drive safe out there people.

Here.

* Edit - Very sorry to hear of this tragedy on the road...no matter what he was driving, it is a horrible accident with so many lives affected.

[DDS2015]

Son of a b****! Can't believe I did that lol! Good catch! The grammar police getting policed...

[larryn]

Originally Posted by M3RD

There is no need to call the young man names like you did. I have you know that drivers in Germany and most Europiean countries are highly trained and tested before they qualify for a drivers license.

Road conditions as you can see on the video were not ideal to say the least. We don't know why the young fellow was on the road during such unfavorable road conditions ... Perhaps he was on his way to see a family member in a difficult situation, we certainly don't know the circumstances until they are published.

Very tragic indeed when something like this happens, especially on the autobahn.

May they all rest in piece

I didn't call him plural names. I called him a name, and I do think he was idiotic and made many others pay the same horrific price he paid. Let's not make excuses for ths person, he got on the Autobahn in the wrong direction and was going at a high rate of speed in the wrong direction...

The point of my post was to simply correct the title of the thread. The person killed, not the instrument.

[Powerbeast]

Very tragic our thoughts go out to the families.

[Khrishna]

Originally Posted by larryn

Terrible crash caused by an idiotic 20 y.o. kid in an M3.... Horrifically tragic, nonetheless.

Totally agree..you should show some respect for the dead..its a tragic accident

[MTROIS]

Just saw this this morning. How did you Plutonium learn about it?

Looks like fog had of course something to do with this accident... But speed as well.

http://www.bo.de/Lokales/Ortenau/Sec...all-auf-der-A5

RIP

[nbennettksu]

very sad, RIP

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by MTROIS

Just saw this this morning. How did you Plutonium learn about it?

Looks like fog had of course something to do with this accident... But speed as well.

http://www.bo.de/Lokales/Ortenau/Sec...all-auf-der-A5

RIP

I'm German, and check my online german news sources daily, this crash made the headline yesterday morning. This is actually very close were my parents live.

"Ghost driving" is on the rise, 4 times that was linked now to suicide - which is just terrible to involve innocent people. This particular incident looks like the young man took the wrong on-ramp, at very high-speed, in very foggy conditions. So basically one bad mistake followed by poor decision making, and reckless driving.

[shadrach]

Originally Posted by iamcpap

That board says 800+ now, but there is NO WAY that is just Chicago... Maybe nationwide? Illinois in total? That would be approximatley 3 people per day in Chicago alone... no way that is plausible...

If you are talking about these signs on the tollways, the total is statewide (all Illinois Roads).



I occasionally drive into Indian or Michigan for work for a couple days and notice the daily increases when I come back in on the Skyway.