DILEMMA: M5 or M3 E92

ufgtrs2007 · 11-14-2012, 07:07 PM

Hey guys,

I've got a dilemma and thought I'd post to get your feedback. Although I'm very blessed to be able to make these decisions, it's still a difficult decision to make and hopefully I can get your insight to help me make a decision.

I currently drive a 2011 E93 M3, 2010 E90 335i (full M3 suspension and coilovers w/ cobb tune), and a 2012 Wrangler Rubicon.

I absolutely love my Rubicon, it's my 3rd JK wrangler in 5 years, the other 2 traded in when I bought my 335i and bought my Wife's car. Saying that, I plan on keeping this Jeep for off-road activity / beater car / towing / beach......etc.

My lease on my M3 is up in December of next year and I own my 335i. I would like to buy another M car with the hopes of building an M stable. I would like something to take to the track since I routinely track my 335i, and I'm absolutely in love with the S65 V8. But I also realize with the new spy pics of the upcoming M3 and M4 that they are going to be monsters.

SHOULD I return the M3 convertible off lease and trade in my 335i for:

1. M5
2. M3 E92 in Frozen brilliant white (would most likely buy an M3 F80 sedan 2-3 years later.)
3. buy out M3 convertible, hold on to 335i until new M3 comes out and then trade it in.

Looking forward to hearing your opinions! Thanks,

Haysam

MY13E92M3 · 11-14-2012, 08:18 PM

M5 - nice but too big.
M3 - perfect!
F30 - ugly.

quadpipes · 11-14-2012, 08:45 PM

I suspect that you will get opinions all over the map on this one, so here's one waypoint...

In addition to my E92 M3, I too have a JK Wrangler (Sport not Rubicon). To me this is the best of both worlds. I drive the Wrangler when the weather is bad, parking spots may be iffy, when I want to take my dog, etc. And I drive the M3 for therapy, on nice days, on weekends, on back roads, etc.

To me a car like the E92 M3 is 50% performance and 50% looks and lines - both of which are subjective. But I love the lines on the E92 from all angles. And, as you said, the S65 NA engine is a peach.

I recently opted to buy out the lease on my M3 because I decided that the F30's (and likely the F80/F82's) looks and lines were not anywhere near as fine as the E92. As one example, just take one look at the ugly hood cutline crossing above the Roundel on the F30, totally ruining the flow and lines of the hood as opposed to the integrated hood cutline on the E90/E92/E93. And I felt there was no way an FI engine would meet my needs/desires as much as the sweet NA S65 mill on the E92. I am way happy with my decision and will likely keep the E92 M3 for many years and never look back.

The M5 discussion is really apples and oranges. It's a different beast altogether. I have not driven it so I have no opinion on the performance. But I have been up close to it many times studying the looks and lines, and I am not a fan of the F10's lines at all, except perhaps from the rear. And the manufactured/piped in engine noise is hokey.

I voted for you to go the E92 route (I'd do Frozen Brilliant although I love IB).

As I said, you should get lots of opinions masquerading as advice on this one.

Keep us posted and good luck.

anacondatp · 11-14-2012, 09:12 PM

no offense OP but what's going on with all these guys with money and can't make their own decision? test drive an M5 then if you have the juice, go for whatever you think you will like. if later down the road, you don't like it anymore, switch it for something else. life is short.

newbieguy · 11-14-2012, 09:36 PM

M5 all the way.... I know I'll get one in a yr or 2......

canadian stig · 11-14-2012, 10:12 PM

None of the above. Trade everything in and get a GTR instead

MRV99 · 11-14-2012, 11:11 PM

I drove the the 550 and was taken for a ride in the F10 m5 and that ride is what made me look at an M3. I was a 5 series guy until the F10 and then jumping into a e90. Stick with the M3....... Better yet wait for the M4

KKM3 · 11-14-2012, 11:56 PM

The new m5 isn't a real M car, it's a glorified 550b (b stands for boat), so if your hopes are to build an M stable, you may want to go with the e92.

MY13E92M3 · 11-15-2012, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKM3

The new m5 isn't a real M car, it's a glorified 550b (b stands for boat), so if your hopes are to build an M stable, you may want to go with the e92.

Couldnt have put it any better! Cheers!

quickv3 · 11-15-2012, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quadpipes

I suspect that you will get opinions all over the map on this one, so here's one waypoint...

In addition to my E92 M3, I too have a JK Wrangler (Sport not Rubicon). To me this is the best of both worlds. I drive the Wrangler when the weather is bad, parking spots may be iffy, when I want to take my dog, etc. And I drive the M3 for therapy, on nice days, on weekends, on back roads, etc.

To me a car like the E92 M3 is 50% performance and 50% looks and lines - both of which are subjective. But I love the lines on the E92 from all angles. And, as you said, the S65 NA engine is a peach.

I recently opted to buy out the lease on my M3 because I decided that the F30's (and likely the F80/F82's) looks and lines were not anywhere near as fine as the E92. As one example, just take one look at the ugly hood cutline crossing above the Roundel on the F30, totally ruining the flow and lines of the hood as opposed to the integrated hood cutline on the E90/E92/E93. And I felt there was no way an FI engine would meet my needs/desires as much as the sweet NA S65 mill on the E92. I am way happy with my decision and will likely keep the E92 M3 for many years and never look back.

The M5 discussion is really apples and oranges. It's a different beast altogether. I have not driven it so I have no opinion on the performance. But I have been up close to it many times studying the looks and lines, and I am not a fan of the F10's lines at all, except perhaps from the rear. And the manufactured/piped in engine noise is hokey.

I voted for you to go the E92 route (I'd do Frozen Brilliant although I love IB).

As I said, you should get lots of opinions masquerading as advice on this one.

Keep us posted and good luck.

Yeah, you're right. This is pretty hideous.

-- WHAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!

Transfer · 11-15-2012, 12:58 AM

I can't believe the M5 votes are winning. No WAY on M5. Too big, fat, and showy, disconnected drive, and more expensive. 2014 M3 all the way.

KKM3 · 11-15-2012, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Transfer

I can't believe the M5 votes are winning. No WAY on M5. Too big, fat, and showy, disconnected drive, and more expensive. 2014 M3 all the way.

Exactly but you forgot to mention that it's also turbo charged.

gnhm3 · 11-15-2012, 02:13 AM

M5

luis_m3 · 11-15-2012, 02:56 AM

E92 frozen grey...

Mike Benvo · 11-15-2012, 02:57 AM

My thoughts are that you already have an M3, so getting another one isn't really much of a change. If you were to do that, I would just keep your current one.

I'd rather have the 2008 M3 that I have now over a 2012 Competition package. There's just no discernible difference other that age and mileage.

I would just go for the M5.. I had one on order and cancelled it because I don't want to be upset when they offer the active seats and LED lighting on it next model year. I've already spent my life retrofitting the 2008 M3 I have now to a 2012, so this one is a keeper forever. I just can't see myself going from M3 to M3, so time for the next playing field

. Voted M5 unless the 335 has some sort of sentimental value to you would is also a reasonable factor.

BMWPWR · 11-15-2012, 06:36 AM

M3.

davesaddiction · 11-15-2012, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Transfer

I can't believe the M5 votes are winning. No WAY on M5. Too big, fat, and showy, disconnected drive, and more expensive.

Seriously... Especially considering he wants to take it to the track. Good luck getting those 4300 lbs around a tight corner.

mkiv808 · 11-15-2012, 10:03 AM

Have you driven an M5? Very different car. An E92 M3 will feel athletic compared to your E93. An M5 will feel like a boat. A fun boat, but a boat nonetheless.

sycd · 11-15-2012, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesaddiction

Seriously... Especially considering he wants to take it to the track. Good luck getting those 4300 lbs around a tight corner.

That's the power of M marketing. Anytime they show an M5 it's doing laps on a track so people think it's the best track car.

davesaddiction · 11-15-2012, 10:31 AM

Yes, sadly, it seems to stand for ///Marketing more and more...

positiveions · 11-15-2012, 10:57 AM

I'd rather have a 911 GT3 if money is no object.

InterJon · 11-15-2012, 11:04 AM

Can i vote "dumb"?

View Poll Results: What would you do if you trade in 335i and return M3 E93 lease?
M5	55	39.01%
M3 E92 frozen brilliant white or Grey	66	46.81%
buyout M3 convertible and trade in 335i for new M3 in 2014	20	14.18%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

11-14-2012, 07:07 PM	#1
ufgtrs2007 dentite Drives: 2013 F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NC Posts: 256 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2013 BMW M5 [0.00]	DILEMMA: M5 or M3 E92 Hey guys, I've got a dilemma and thought I'd post to get your feedback. Although I'm very blessed to be able to make these decisions, it's still a difficult decision to make and hopefully I can get your insight to help me make a decision. I currently drive a 2011 E93 M3, 2010 E90 335i (full M3 suspension and coilovers w/ cobb tune), and a 2012 Wrangler Rubicon. I absolutely love my Rubicon, it's my 3rd JK wrangler in 5 years, the other 2 traded in when I bought my 335i and bought my Wife's car. Saying that, I plan on keeping this Jeep for off-road activity / beater car / towing / beach......etc. My lease on my M3 is up in December of next year and I own my 335i. I would like to buy another M car with the hopes of building an M stable. I would like something to take to the track since I routinely track my 335i, and I'm absolutely in love with the S65 V8. But I also realize with the new spy pics of the upcoming M3 and M4 that they are going to be monsters. SHOULD I return the M3 convertible off lease and trade in my 335i for: 1. M5 2. M3 E92 in Frozen brilliant white (would most likely buy an M3 F80 sedan 2-3 years later.) 3. buy out M3 convertible, hold on to 335i until new M3 comes out and then trade it in. Looking forward to hearing your opinions! Thanks, Haysam
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11-14-2012, 08:18 PM	#2
MY13E92M3 Captain Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 681 iTrader: (1)	M5 - nice but too big. M3 - perfect! F30 - ugly. __________________ MY13 E92 M3 SS w/ ZCP l ZPP l 2MK l 6NR l 752 l M Performance Exhaust, Grill, Side Gills, C/F splitters Sold - 2009 E92 335i LMB M-Sport Sold - 2003 E46 M3 LSB SMG

11-14-2012, 09:12 PM	#4
anacondatp Private First Class Drives: 10' E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 170 iTrader: (2)	no offense OP but what's going on with all these guys with money and can't make their own decision? test drive an M5 then if you have the juice, go for whatever you think you will like. if later down the road, you don't like it anymore, switch it for something else. life is short. __________________ 10' E92 M3 6MT

11-14-2012, 09:36 PM	#5
newbieguy Private First Class Drives: 11' Space Gray E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 128 iTrader: (0)	M5 all the way.... I know I'll get one in a yr or 2...... __________________ 11' E92 M3 Space Grey 09' E92 M3 Space Grey - Gone but not forgotten

11-14-2012, 08:45 PM	#3
quadpipes Second Lieutenant Drives: '11 E92 M3 IB/Beige,M-DCT,ZCP Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missippi USofA Posts: 247 iTrader: (0)	I suspect that you will get opinions all over the map on this one, so here's one waypoint... In addition to my E92 M3, I too have a JK Wrangler (Sport not Rubicon). To me this is the best of both worlds. I drive the Wrangler when the weather is bad, parking spots may be iffy, when I want to take my dog, etc. And I drive the M3 for therapy, on nice days, on weekends, on back roads, etc. To me a car like the E92 M3 is 50% performance and 50% looks and lines - both of which are subjective. But I love the lines on the E92 from all angles. And, as you said, the S65 NA engine is a peach. I recently opted to buy out the lease on my M3 because I decided that the F30's (and likely the F80/F82's) looks and lines were not anywhere near as fine as the E92. As one example, just take one look at the ugly hood cutline crossing above the Roundel on the F30, totally ruining the flow and lines of the hood as opposed to the integrated hood cutline on the E90/E92/E93. And I felt there was no way an FI engine would meet my needs/desires as much as the sweet NA S65 mill on the E92. I am way happy with my decision and will likely keep the E92 M3 for many years and never look back. The M5 discussion is really apples and oranges. It's a different beast altogether. I have not driven it so I have no opinion on the performance. But I have been up close to it many times studying the looks and lines, and I am not a fan of the F10's lines at all, except perhaps from the rear. And the manufactured/piped in engine noise is hokey. I voted for you to go the E92 route (I'd do Frozen Brilliant although I love IB). As I said, you should get lots of opinions masquerading as advice on this one. Keep us posted and good luck.

11-14-2012, 10:12 PM	#6
canadian stig Banned Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: canada Posts: 242 iTrader: (0)	None of the above. Trade everything in and get a GTR instead

11-14-2012, 11:11 PM	#7
MRV99 Drank the Koolaid Drives: 2011 M3 DCT Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Naperville Posts: 122 iTrader: (0)	I drove the the 550 and was taken for a ride in the F10 m5 and that ride is what made me look at an M3. I was a 5 series guy until the F10 and then jumping into a e90. Stick with the M3....... Better yet wait for the M4 __________________ 12 X5 50i Sport w/ Adaptive drive -- 11 M3 DCT --- Laid to rest---- 2011 X5 50i (Lemon) -- 2008 550 Msport -- 2007 x5 4.8 sport -- 2004 545 sport -- 2002 x5 4.4 sport -- 2001 540i Msport 2000 SL500 -- 1997 SL500

11-14-2012, 11:56 PM	#8
KKM3 First Lieutenant Drives: E92 m3 + r8 v10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 372 iTrader: (0)	The new m5 isn't a real M car, it's a glorified 550b (b stands for boat), so if your hopes are to build an M stable, you may want to go with the e92.

11-15-2012, 12:58 AM	#11
Transfer Captain Drives: E90 M3, X1 xDrive28i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 800 iTrader: (0)	I can't believe the M5 votes are winning. No WAY on M5. Too big, fat, and showy, disconnected drive, and more expensive. 2014 M3 all the way.

11-15-2012, 02:13 AM	#13
gnhm3 Major Drives: 12' e92 m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West LA Posts: 1,333 iTrader: (17)	M5 __________________

11-15-2012, 02:56 AM	#14
luis_m3 Low Pro... Drives: 2011 E90 AW Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 919 iTrader: (0)	E92 frozen grey...

11-15-2012, 02:57 AM	#15
Mike Benvo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMSport M3 / 7 Series Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,210 iTrader: (6)	My thoughts are that you already have an M3, so getting another one isn't really much of a change. If you were to do that, I would just keep your current one. I'd rather have the 2008 M3 that I have now over a 2012 Competition package. There's just no discernible difference other that age and mileage. I would just go for the M5.. I had one on order and cancelled it because I don't want to be upset when they offer the active seats and LED lighting on it next model year. I've already spent my life retrofitting the 2008 M3 I have now to a 2012, so this one is a keeper forever. I just can't see myself going from M3 to M3, so time for the next playing field . Voted M5 unless the 335 has some sort of sentimental value to you would is also a reasonable factor. __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----

11-15-2012, 06:36 AM	#16
BMWPWR Private First Class Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	M3.

11-15-2012, 10:03 AM	#18
mkiv808 First Lieutenant Drives: 06 E90/Cayman S Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Milford, CT Posts: 345 iTrader: (1)	Have you driven an M5? Very different car. An E92 M3 will feel athletic compared to your E93. An M5 will feel like a boat. A fun boat, but a boat nonetheless. __________________ 2009 BMW M3 E92 6M AW/FR Eibach Springs + H&R Front Sway + LUX AE + LCI Taillights + BMW Performance CF Spoiler + Bastuck Clubsport Exhaust Last edited by mkiv808; 11-17-2012 at 11:31 AM.

11-15-2012, 10:31 AM	#20
davesaddiction is fast cars Drives: '08 E90 M3 6MT SSII/Silver Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tulsa Posts: 660 iTrader: (0)	Yes, sadly, it seems to stand for ///Marketing more and more...

11-15-2012, 10:57 AM	#21
positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 8,840 iTrader: (1)	I'd rather have a 911 GT3 if money is no object. __________________

11-15-2012, 11:04 AM	#22
InterJon Private First Class Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 117 iTrader: (0)	Can i vote "dumb"?

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