BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Track / Autocross / Dragstrip / Driving Techniques
 
European Auto Source
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-06-2012, 06:43 AM   #1
LiM3y
Major
 
LiM3y's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 1,218
iTrader: (2)

Chasing a Lime Rock Edition M3 Around LRP

Here's some video action of my last track day of 2012 at Lime Rock Park last week. It was good to get out one last time...the driving's not great (I wasn't wearing driving gloves for a start) but I was having fun. I had more lines through Big Bend than Robert Downey, Jr. In the second session, a new, orange "Lime Rock Edition" M3 appeared from the pits, so I got to follow that around. I was gratified to see that my 2008, 72K mile M3 could keep up on the straights, i.e. my engine is still pulling like new. I think it was part of a photo shoot for a magazine or something. The driver didn't select the ZPB (point by option) group on the ZCP package that comes with the car. I was was red-assing a little bit and missed a gear change...



The second film shows me behind a dickwad in a modded/tuned Corvette. It is worth watching to see his braking (breaking ) points for the corners. He started braking for Turn 1 at the Start/Finish line. You will also see Elivan Goulart come by in a modded M3. I am not sure what the mods were, but it did turn up on the back of a trailer. I caught the bugger 4 times in the session, but didn't have the juice to pass him heads-up on the straights and he wouldn't lift. My favorite was the point by/drag race early on. If you look at the first clip, he also features in that film too! At the end of the clip, you see me "lose" my brakes. This after riding on PFC-01 pads on their last day (6 days on stock calipers/Castrol SRF) - I lost a lot of brake torque and just straight lined braked to keep control in the run-off of the front straight. I went back to the paddock, and my rotors were still orange as I pulled up. Time for at least cooling ducts and maybe a front BBK. There was still 1/8 - 3/16ths of pad left. Anyway, I got a big warning sign and took it. Looking at all my video, I started to lose brake torque at about the same time (20 mms) in each session. I won't run my pads so low in future events for sure!

__________________

Last edited by LiM3y; 11-06-2012 at 06:51 AM.
LiM3y is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-06-2012, 12:03 PM   #2
Protocav
Private
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: San Diego

Posts: 62
iTrader: (0)

You're driving composure and steering inputs are very smooth and controlled. Very calm; nicely done.
Protocav is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-06-2012, 12:08 PM   #3
LiM3y
Major
 
LiM3y's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 1,218
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Protocav View Post
You're driving composure and steering inputs are very smooth and controlled. Very calm; nicely done.
What do they say about ducks on a pond...?

Thanks!
__________________
LiM3y is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-06-2012, 07:16 PM   #4
MKE_M3
Lieutenant Colonel
 
MKE_M3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 e90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Posts: 1,660
iTrader: (0)

Cool videos, I need to setup video for my next track day! I agree that your inputs look good. Don't take this with very much weight, as I've never been to LRP, but it looks like your turn in points and apexes may be a little early?!??!
__________________
MKE_M3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-06-2012, 08:49 PM   #5
Sleeper519
Captain
 
Sleeper519's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 724
iTrader: (0)

Surprised you stayed behind that vette as long as you did. must of been annoying.
__________________

2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.80 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
Sleeper519 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-07-2012, 07:27 AM   #6
LiM3y
Major
 
LiM3y's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 1,218
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper519 View Post
Surprised you stayed behind that vette as long as you did. must of been annoying.
Pride is an unforgiving master...at least I didn't try and pass under braking, which did cross my mind!

I know I should have pulled in and passed him in the pits...F1 style! I have no idea why some folks who have been caught at DEs can't let the throttle breathe for a couple of seconds on the straights to protect both cars...I do.
__________________
LiM3y is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-07-2012, 07:54 AM   #7
Sleeper519
Captain
 
Sleeper519's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 724
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LiM3y View Post
Pride is an unforgiving master...at least I didn't try and pass under braking, which did cross my mind!

I know I should have pulled in and passed him in the pits...F1 style! I have no idea why some folks who have been caught at DEs can't let the throttle breathe for a couple of seconds on the straights to protect both cars...I do.
I hear ya! Even though tailgating is a pain, sometimes you just have to crawl into his trunk to get his attention. If he persistently fails to give you the obviously deserved point-by, most events that I've attended will black flag his ass in a NY minute.
__________________

2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.80 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
Sleeper519 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #8
Car54
Captain
 
Drives: 1999 Z3 Mcoupe | 2008 M3/4
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lutz, FL

Posts: 837
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdemetry View Post
Cool videos, I need to setup video for my next track day! I agree that your inputs look good. Don't take this with very much weight, as I've never been to LRP, but it looks like your turn in points and apexes may be a little early?!??!
Ya see, you want to late apex as early as you can.
__________________

Craig Brickner
BM
W CCA/PBOC/Chin Motorsports DE Instructor
Click to Join: BMWCCA # 366493
Car54 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #9
930Man
Second Lieutenant
 
930Man's Avatar
 
Drives: m3
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Raleigh

Posts: 275
iTrader: (1)

nicely done
__________________

2009 AW M3
1995 E36 full race
930Man is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-08-2012, 09:53 AM   #10
Jaypod
Brigadier General
 
Jaypod's Avatar
 
Drives: Frozen Silver M3, AM V8V
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto

Posts: 4,916
iTrader: (7)

Nice Vids! Vette's dont like to let 4 doors pass them!
Jaypod is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      11-08-2012, 06:20 PM   #11
Sleeper519
Captain
 
Sleeper519's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 724
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Car54 View Post
Ya see, you want to late apex as early as you can.
^^ Nice one, this should be a bumper sticker.
__________________

2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.80 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
Sleeper519 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 06:30 PM   #12
Echo M3
Major
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY

Posts: 1,431
iTrader: (0)

Nice clips. The owner of that edition M3 was probably surprised that he could not pull away from you with his 50 extra HP.

I need to pay a visit to this track, at some point.
Echo M3 is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      11-10-2012, 07:21 PM   #13
Car54
Captain
 
Drives: 1999 Z3 Mcoupe | 2008 M3/4
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lutz, FL

Posts: 837
iTrader: (1)

The LRP doesn't have any more hp than the typical M3.
__________________

Craig Brickner
BM
W CCA/PBOC/Chin Motorsports DE Instructor
Click to Join: BMWCCA # 366493
Car54 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 07:53 AM   #14
leo95se
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 09 JB e92, Q5 and passat
Join Date: May 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 490
iTrader: (1)

nice clips! stinks i missed the end of the season, though did get to close out in a formula school there in october

try to apex later, and dont go so wide on the left hander
leo95se is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 07:06 PM   #15
sin911
First Lieutenant
 
sin911's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Miami

Posts: 304
iTrader: (0)

Your driving is smooth and controlled, I just would like to advise you to turn in a little later. You turn in a little quick which yields to an early apex and having to keep the steering wheel tilted on the way out more than you need to.
__________________
2013 E92 ///M3 Space Grey w/ Fox Red
M Performance Exhaust, KW Sleeve Over Kit, and cosmetic upgrades
sin911 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-11-2012, 10:26 PM   #16
LiM3y
Major
 
LiM3y's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 1,218
iTrader: (2)

Thanks chaps. It was a bit of a condom day at the track...good fun but it didn't quite feel right!

Doing the SCDA car control clinic tomorrow afternoon, and then it is a wrap for the season.
__________________
LiM3y is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      11-12-2012, 08:28 PM   #17
paradocs98
Major
 
paradocs98's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 991 Carrera S
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NY

Posts: 1,342
iTrader: (0)

Thanks for posting. I'm done for the season and miss it already.

That LRP edition sure is orange.

I loved the Corvette point-by/drag-race. So typical and so annoying. I've had the same thing happen to me at Lime Rock with a couple of modified GTRs--rockets on the straight, then wayyyy early braking into turn one (and most other corners). You know you would put down a faster lap time than them if you could get around them, but they make it impossible to get by. And your rhythm falls apart. I guess it's good practice for a competition scenario, but it's very frustrating. Now I just pit in and open up space as soon as I see this happening.
__________________
IB E90 M3 ZCP returned to BMW FS
paradocs98 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-12-2012, 08:29 PM   #18
paradocs98
Major
 
paradocs98's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 991 Carrera S
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NY

Posts: 1,342
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by LiM3y View Post
Thanks chaps. It was a bit of a condom day at the track...good fun but it didn't quite feel right!

Doing the SCDA car control clinic tomorrow afternoon, and then it is a wrap for the season.
I did the car control clinic several weeks ago. What a blast. How was it for you?
__________________
IB E90 M3 ZCP returned to BMW FS
paradocs98 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-13-2012, 06:58 AM   #19
LiM3y
Major
 
LiM3y's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E90 M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CT

Posts: 1,218
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by paradocs98 View Post
I did the car control clinic several weeks ago. What a blast. How was it for you?
Awesome. I really enjoyed it and had a blast on the booth the auto-X and skid pan...first time I got close to getting the hang of it and drifting my ass around both parts. I shredded my front left Conti DW street tire though. I guess they aren't designed for Auto-X!

Turner has a few guys at the track day. Their driver Marsal turned up in a McLaren! They were tuning their LRP M3...they drove down to LRP on ex-Grand-Am slicks! The joy of running your own race team, I should really get one of my own. One of the instructors was a Turner research guy who had a 135 tuned to ~500HP at the wheels. It was funny to hear him sat he wasn't happy with the oil thermometer, so he was going to DESIGN his own! Awesome!
__________________
LiM3y is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:56 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST