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      11-11-2012, 02:14 PM   #419
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      09-04-2014, 10:16 PM   #420
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So which SC unit is the best? Clearly ESS is the champ here.

Is there any reason why ESS chose to go with a liquid cooled heat exchanger/intercooler over a unit with a FMIC with the option of methanol?
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      09-04-2014, 10:44 PM   #421
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So which SC unit is the best? Clearly ESS is the champ here.
lol

These threads are paradoxical.
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      09-06-2014, 03:03 AM   #422
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None of the chargers are any good if you have dct
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      09-06-2014, 06:23 AM   #423
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So which SC unit is the best? Clearly ESS is the champ here.

Is there any reason why ESS chose to go with a liquid cooled heat exchanger/intercooler over a unit with a FMIC with the option of methanol?
Piping for a front mount is more challenging with the big Vortech taking up a lot of space in the engine bay. The smaller Rotrex is easier to fit with intercooler piping. Both methods work and one is not universally better than the other. It is more a packaging issue. BMW, for example, used air to air on the turbo inline 6 motors, but uses air to water on the turbo V8 models. Most if not all factory positive displacement superchargers use air to water but that is also a packaging issue to conveniently fit the cooler between the supercharger and the motor. There are very few factory centrifugal superchargers, but like a turbo, there is more flexibility in mounting so either form of intercooling could be used depending on space for piping.
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      09-07-2014, 10:57 AM   #424
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None of the chargers are any good if you have dct
what?
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      09-07-2014, 11:21 AM   #425
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what?
The Dct box can not handle the torque that the supercharger creates.
For example... when you blip down gear then suddenly pile on the throttle. .. the dct shuts down momentarily which can be very dangerous. .. its ok for doing drag runs but that's all.
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There are lots if people running DCT and supercharger, but few if any complaints about this issue.
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      09-07-2014, 12:13 PM   #427
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The Dct box can not handle the torque that the supercharger creates.
For example... when you blip down gear then suddenly pile on the throttle. .. the dct shuts down momentarily which can be very dangerous. .. its ok for doing drag runs but that's all.
You must be confused. I don't blame you though, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road.
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      09-07-2014, 02:35 PM   #428
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There are lots if people running DCT and supercharger, but few if any complaints about this issue.
Most guys that run chargers with dct don't track or are under 600bhp.
Anything 600bhp and over will cause the problem.
I also met a few guys at the Nurburgring who were running G power and ESS chargers complaining of the same issue.
Don't get me wrong this is not an issue with the chargers themselves but the gearbox not being set up to handle the torque. I had 2 different chargers on my M3 and both did the same. I searched all over for someone who could map the gearbox but ended up with nothing. Even visited Manhart Racing in Germany and they could not do it either.

I now drive a GTR which has been tuned to a stage 4 and even they have the same issue but the tuners know how to deal with it.
It got so frustrating with the M3 that I ended up selling it for a GTR.
I absolutely loved my M3 but enough was enough.
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      09-07-2014, 02:37 PM   #429
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You must be confused. I don't blame you though, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road.
Not confused. .. you must be on the wrong forum.
The child's forum is elsewhere.
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nothing wrong with running many of the stage 1 or 2 kits available with stock DCT. We have a local with 80k, 60k supercharged miles and zero issues. Don't mislead people. Research... Don't talk out of your arse!
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Iíve read something about this too. Related to not being able to handle the torque. Whereas with a 6MT you can upgrade to a heavier duty clutch.
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I’ve read something about this too. Related to not being able to handle the torque. Whereas with a 6MT you can upgrade to a heavier duty clutch.
We have torque?
Like I said... Stage one kits are completely safe. Many threads with useful information regarding this.

Also the stock 6mt clutch can handle a good bit of power
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      09-07-2014, 03:06 PM   #433
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nothing wrong with running many of the stage 1 or 2 kits available with stock DCT. We have a local with 80k, 60k supercharged miles and zero issues. Don't mislead people. Research... Don't talk out of your arse!
Not talking out of my arse.. I'm talking from personal experience ... the forum members need to know these things before spending their money.
Yes there may be some stage 1 kits which are fine but they don't have enough power to cause the issue.
Also.. no need to be a keyboard warrior and be rude.
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Not confused. .. you must be on the wrong forum.
The child's forum is elsewhere.
Rude? Maybe you forgot calling Millie a child.

If you think a stage 1 supercharger would cause issues to the DCT, you should really search and do some homework.
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Rude? Maybe you forgot calling Millie a child.

If you think a stage 1 supercharger would cause issues to the DCT, you should really search and do some homework.
Yes I did call him a child... but if you read his post then you would understand why.
Also if you read my post properly then you would see that I agreed with you on the stage 1.

Now that is clear ... I can only hope you understand that I was talking from personal experience and the personal experience of many others that I have met and know that we're running 600bhp plus charger kits.
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Read this one . Complete BS! I'm finished.
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Read this one . Complete BS! I'm finished.
Ok.. maybe I needed to be more specific.
But enjoy your stage 1.
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Not talking out of my arse.. I'm talking from personal experience ... the forum members need to know these things before spending their money.
Yes there may be some stage 1 kits which are fine but they don't have enough power to cause the issue.
Also.. no need to be a keyboard warrior and be rude.
What are you talking about. There are plenty of guys here in SoCal like me with the stage 2 kits (mine is a 650). My car has 20,000 supercharged miles with an 8,600 rpm redline, with tons of track and airstrips events. Not one issue at all to speak of.

My DCT is fine. The car drives EXACTLY like it did the day I picked it up from MRF engineering with 800 miles on the ODO with the supercharger installed.

And how about DLSJ5? Makes 700 RWHP with the built motor ESS Stage 3 system and runs the STOCK DCT transmission. He races his car with no issues with the stock DCT at all.
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ESS also has a DVT tune specific for their 650 kits as well.

Which DCT tune were you running? Stock euro DCT? Did you go to the GTS tune by any chance?
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What are you talking about. There are plenty of guys here in SoCal like me with the stage 2 kits (mine is a 650). My car has 20,000 supercharged miles with an 8,600 rpm redline, with tons of track and airstrips events. Not one issue at all to speak of.

My DCT is fine. The car drives EXACTLY like it did the day I picked it up from MRF engineering with 800 miles on the ODO with the supercharger installed.

And how about DLSJ5? Makes 700 RWHP with the built motor ESS Stage 3 system and runs the STOCK DCT transmission. He races his car with no issues with the stock DCT at all.
I have talked to DLSJ5 many times about this. ... His transmission is not stock.
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