M3 crash

per · 11-07-2012, 12:00 PM

I was on a track day with professional drivers as instructors a month ago and I had done at least 30 laps without any issues, all braking points where set. I took a short brake and picked up a passenger and after a warm up lap I hit the gas. In the end of the straight ( doing 205km/h gps) I smashed the brake pedal at the braking point and to my big surprise the pedal just hit the floor.
After being airborne for 20 meters I was able to drift the car in a short turn to the right over the sand trap and was able to get up on the asphalt again, but in a 4 wheel drift, I hit the concrete barrier on the right side in a right turn doing app 130-140 km/h, bounced out and slides across the track for 60 meters.
If I had failed to make the right turn I would have hit a barrier in almost 200 km/h and that would probably been the end of the story..

So what happened, I had a very tight fit between the brake caliper and the inside of the wheel ,and something must have been stuck between the caliper and the wheel which caused a hole in the caliper and the brake fluid just flushed out, never heard of something similar before.
Be careful out there….shit happens

Team Plutonium · 11-07-2012, 12:02 PM

Holy fuck! So sorry to see this, Per! Glad you are ok though! That really sucks man!

chris s · 11-07-2012, 12:03 PM

wow....sorry to see this. Glad you walked away though...

whats77inaname · 11-07-2012, 12:03 PM

Damn, that sucks. Glad you and the passenger are okay, though.

m3an · 11-07-2012, 12:04 PM

pretty bad hit, almost looks like the right hinge pillar is pushed back. Be glad you're ok as that must've been some impact

lorinzo · 11-07-2012, 12:06 PM

Ouch!

schnell325 · 11-07-2012, 12:07 PM

Son of a b!tch!!

M3SQRD · 11-07-2012, 12:11 PM

sorry to hear about this but glad to see it played out the way it did!

PrimoM3 · 11-07-2012, 12:34 PM

Sorry to hear for your misfortune. After reading through the post, I have to admit I was a bit relieved when I noticed you had aftermarket brakes and wheels. I hope that doesn't sound insensitive.

Hope you get her fixed up or replaced without issue.

flipm3 · 11-07-2012, 12:41 PM

Sorry to hear about your accident and misfortune. The most important thing is that you and the passenger are here to today able to still be with your family and friends.

You have a blistering fast and well setup E92 M3! Hopefully you can either piece it back together or start on a new canvas.

Keep us all posted!

ChrisDUS · 11-07-2012, 12:48 PM

How old is your brake fluid?

Mine behaves similar after GP track action. After standstill the brake pedal is very soft and almost falls down. It is due to the old brake liquid, at least in my case.

M-Maika · 11-07-2012, 12:53 PM

Sorry to hear about your accident.
You should have bought some Brembo or AP racing.

At least you are ok.

img · 11-07-2012, 01:04 PM

OMG, screw the car.Glad you walked away man !

biglare · 11-07-2012, 01:10 PM

Jeeesssuuuuzzzz, glad everyone is OK. Credit to the driving skills too! Shit does happen out there is completely true. At my last track event I watched a guy put his new McLaren through a wall.

Be Safe!

per · 11-07-2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipm3

Sorry to hear about your accident and misfortune. The most important thing is that you and the passenger are here to today able to still be with your family and friends.

You have a blistering fast and well setup E92 M3! Hopefully you can either piece it back together or start on a new canvas.

Keep us all posted!

Thanks, I already bought a new white M3 DKG with competition package,
luckely the M3 is a good car to crasch with, it was like a pillow war inside the car,and all we got wasa little backpain.

4sevens.com · 11-07-2012, 01:29 PM

more pictures of the calipers please especially the hole in the caliper

GOLFFRR · 11-07-2012, 01:30 PM

wow, thank goodness you were able to maneuver to avoid the straight on! glad you are ok.

Chriskm3 · 11-07-2012, 01:31 PM

I'm glad it's just the car. Not you.

Nati Beastcat · 11-07-2012, 01:31 PM

First of all glad you're safe. Second question is how is this explained to insurance? What do they cover if at all?

ortho281 · 11-07-2012, 01:31 PM

Sorry to hear this. Glad everyone is ok. I had a near miss on track when front pads gave out. Now I have track insurance. Did you have track insurance or will your auto insurance cover damages on track?

per · 11-07-2012, 01:33 PM

Picture from another angle

4sevens.com · 11-07-2012, 01:36 PM

pictures of caliper with hole please? was it the right or left caliper?

11-07-2012, 12:00 PM	#1
per Lieutenant Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 489 iTrader: (0)	M3 crash I was on a track day with professional drivers as instructors a month ago and I had done at least 30 laps without any issues, all braking points where set. I took a short brake and picked up a passenger and after a warm up lap I hit the gas. In the end of the straight ( doing 205km/h gps) I smashed the brake pedal at the braking point and to my big surprise the pedal just hit the floor. After being airborne for 20 meters I was able to drift the car in a short turn to the right over the sand trap and was able to get up on the asphalt again, but in a 4 wheel drift, I hit the concrete barrier on the right side in a right turn doing app 130-140 km/h, bounced out and slides across the track for 60 meters. If I had failed to make the right turn I would have hit a barrier in almost 200 km/h and that would probably been the end of the story.. So what happened, I had a very tight fit between the brake caliper and the inside of the wheel ,and something must have been stuck between the caliper and the wheel which caused a hole in the caliper and the brake fluid just flushed out, never heard of something similar before. Be careful out there….shit happens Attached Images __________________ M3 E92 ESS VT-625
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11-07-2012, 12:02 PM	#2
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,806 iTrader: (1)	Holy fuck! So sorry to see this, Per! Glad you are ok though! That really sucks man! __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

11-07-2012, 12:03 PM	#3
chris s Brigadier General Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 4,625 iTrader: (8)	wow....sorry to see this. Glad you walked away though... __________________ 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs 2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT \| AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!

11-07-2012, 12:06 PM	#6
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11-07-2012, 12:07 PM	#7
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11-07-2012, 12:03 PM	#4
whats77inaname Native Texan Drives: when at all possible Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 686 iTrader: (9)	Damn, that sucks. Glad you and the passenger are okay, though.

11-07-2012, 12:04 PM	#5
m3an Banned Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,612 iTrader: (2)	pretty bad hit, almost looks like the right hinge pillar is pushed back. Be glad you're ok as that must've been some impact

11-07-2012, 12:11 PM	#8
M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,359 iTrader: (2)	sorry to hear about this but glad to see it played out the way it did!

11-07-2012, 12:34 PM	#9
PrimoM3 Chemofski Drives: '13 ZCP M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Coast, U.S. Posts: 1,218 iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear for your misfortune. After reading through the post, I have to admit I was a bit relieved when I noticed you had aftermarket brakes and wheels. I hope that doesn't sound insensitive. Hope you get her fixed up or replaced without issue. __________________ '13 Individual Frozen Brilliant White ///M3 Coupe Ordered 2/15/12 \| Euro Delivery on 9/21/12 \| U.S. Redelivery on 12/6/12

11-07-2012, 12:41 PM	#10
flipm3 E46 + E90 Drives: E46 M3 + E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,523 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	Sorry to hear about your accident and misfortune. The most important thing is that you and the passenger are here to today able to still be with your family and friends. You have a blistering fast and well setup E92 M3! Hopefully you can either piece it back together or start on a new canvas. Keep us all posted! __________________ 2009 E90 M3 DCT \| Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth My Build Thread \| Stock Dyno Results

11-07-2012, 12:48 PM	#11
ChrisDUS Private Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany Posts: 98 iTrader: (0)	How old is your brake fluid? Mine behaves similar after GP track action. After standstill the brake pedal is very soft and almost falls down. It is due to the old brake liquid, at least in my case.

11-07-2012, 12:53 PM	#12
M-Maika First Lieutenant Drives: M3 E92 AW Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Barcelona ( Spain ) Porto ( Portugal ) Posts: 364 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 E92 [5.00]	Sorry to hear about your accident. You should have bought some Brembo or AP racing. At least you are ok. __________________ M3 E92 M-DKG and all the options available. Forum BMW Portugal: http://www.forumbmwportugal.com

11-07-2012, 01:04 PM	#13
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11-07-2012, 01:10 PM	#14
biglare Bulldog Drives: X6M \| 1M \| SOLD E90 M3 VT2-625 Join Date: May 2008 Location: CA Posts: 2,757 iTrader: (3)	Jeeesssuuuuzzzz, glad everyone is OK. Credit to the driving skills too! Shit does happen out there is completely true. At my last track event I watched a guy put his new McLaren through a wall. Be Safe! __________________ 1M ESS Stage 1+ Tune \| IND Grills - Sides \| Eisenmann Race \| HRE P43S \| KW V3 \| SOLD-M3 ESS VT2-625 \| IND/Challenge CF V-Weave Roof - LipSpoiler – BootLid – Diffuser - Mirrors - Brembo BBK Fiji-Green \| HRE P44SC \| MA Carbon – CF MatteSilver Trim \| Akra GT4 Mid-Pipe - Eisenmann Inconel \| 3.62Diff \| TopStitch Custom Interior \| KW Clubsport \| RD Sport Sways

11-07-2012, 01:29 PM	#16
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,481 iTrader: (3)	more pictures of the calipers please especially the hole in the caliper

11-07-2012, 01:30 PM	#17
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11-07-2012, 01:31 PM	#18
Chriskm3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,991 iTrader: (3)	I'm glad it's just the car. Not you.

11-07-2012, 01:31 PM	#19
Nati Beastcat Alright Alright Alright Drives: 08 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 953 iTrader: (3)	First of all glad you're safe. Second question is how is this explained to insurance? What do they cover if at all? __________________ Eisenmann race \| Test Pipes \| BPM Stage 2 \|Vorsteiner \| Black lines \| AA filter \| IND cosmetics \| KW Sleeve over \| BC Forged HB29's \| Macht Schnell Tow Strap \| Euro modded front bumper \| Revinora lip \| Revinora mirror caps \| BMW spoiler \| BMW Steering wheel \| You bet Jerez its black and i'll never go back! Instagram @NATIBEASTCAT

11-07-2012, 01:31 PM	#20
ortho281 Captain Drives: 2011 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Katy, TX Posts: 608 iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear this. Glad everyone is ok. I had a near miss on track when front pads gave out. Now I have track insurance. Did you have track insurance or will your auto insurance cover damages on track? __________________ Akra Evo / MS stage 2 / MS UDP / VF Tune / KW S/O springs / Vorshlag plates / ST 380/355 BBK / ST SR34 pads / Apex Arc-8 / Nitto NT01 / Schroth Rallye 3

11-07-2012, 01:33 PM	#21
per Lieutenant Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Gothenburg Posts: 489 iTrader: (0)	Picture from another angle Attached Images __________________ M3 E92 ESS VT-625

11-07-2012, 01:36 PM	#22
4sevens.com Major Drives: '11 LMB e90 M3; '99 LS6 Miata Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,481 iTrader: (3)	pictures of caliper with hole please? was it the right or left caliper?

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