Review: Endless Brake Pads

persian54 · 03-02-2012, 04:51 PM

Review: Endless Brake Pads

for StopTech Trophy ST60 ST40 BBK
Endless ME20 Front
Endless N35S Rear

I can't write too much as I haven't even had them for a week yet...

But I have to say: Endless pads are a great pad.
Unfortunately, I don't have experience with many pads, but I have driven a couple cars with different pad compounds.

My fav feature on these pads is that they bite almost immediately. I say "almost" cause I still have to push the pedal down a little

At AutoClub, they stopped my car effortlessly. I would do several high speed to low speed stops without an issue.

The first time I really got on it, my head almost hit my steering wheel as I wasn't expecting such a strong stop! (crappy seatbelts FTL..)

They do squeak a bit more than I'd like to after the track day, but not as bad as my StopTech Street Perf pads did.

Thank you wwjd15, Ricky@R's Tuning, for helping me get my Endless pads

Raja Ventureshield · 03-02-2012, 07:40 PM

you persians living large. StopTech love it.

isugoo · 03-02-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raja Ventureshield

you persians living large.

persian54 · 03-02-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raja Ventureshield

you persians living large. StopTech love it.

It's the oil! Haha

thorny · 03-02-2012, 08:53 PM

Hmmmm. My stoptech performance pads dont make a sound

they sometimes feel sort of rough the next day after the event, but get back to normal fast.

persian54 · 03-02-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thorny

Hmmmm. My stoptech performance pads dont make a sound

they sometimes feel sort of rough the next day after the event, but get back to normal fast.

Mine make noise after an event, always

but then... I have an event a couple days later... so I can't comment on if it goes back to normal or not as I don't daily drive it much... if it wasn't for track miles and driving to Irvine to go to the shop (80mi), I'd prly only have like 4-5k miles on my car in the past year
I only live 7 mi from work...

thorny · 03-02-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

Mine make noise after an event, always

but then... I have an event a couple days later... so I can't comment on if it goes back to normal or not as I don't daily drive it much... if it wasn't for track miles and driving to Irvine to go to the shop (80mi), I'd prly only have like 4-5k miles on my car in the past year
I only live 7 mi from work...

I see. I was talking more about the pedal feel, but it does go away after a few miles. No noise

i am on stock calipers and disks, maybe thats the reason.

persian54 · 03-02-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thorny

I see. I was talking more about the pedal feel, but it does go away after a few miles. No noise

i am on stock calipers and disks, maybe thats the reason.

This system has a much better pedal feel than the stock system did with StopTechs
I ran that set up (stock calipers/rotors, StopTech Street Perf pads) for a couple months
Pedal feel was crap once I boiled the fluid haha. but even after a flush, it wasn't as good as this, though i'm not surprised lol.
But it was still good. I really liked the ST Pads

flipm3 · 03-03-2012, 12:18 PM

I hear great thing about these pads and how they are very streetable. I almost went with a set as well, but decided to still stick with my StopTech Street Perf pads and PFC 06 combo.

You mention that the initial bite is pretty instantaneous. Do you feel like you still have the ability to modulate your braking power fairly well?

E90///M3` · 03-03-2012, 03:11 PM

hmmm... i hate you. lulz.

wwjd15 · 03-03-2012, 03:42 PM

Thank you Sean! I'm glad you like the Endless I chose.

For people who doesn't know Endless, I can mix match compound to get the braking power at your preference, such as high initial bite, progress bite, noise-free, low speed progress, high speed progress, low speed high initial, high speed agressive bite, etc.

OC3 · 03-03-2012, 07:02 PM

Love the big initial bite of my Endless ME20.
.

persian54 · 03-03-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OC3

Love the big initial bite of my Endless ME20.
.

get your own thread! lol

yyoo · 03-04-2012, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wwjd15

Thank you Sean! I'm glad you like the Endless I chose.

For people who doesn't know Endless, I can mix match compound to get the braking power at your preference, such as high initial bite, progress bite, noise-free, low speed progress, high speed progress, low speed high initial, high speed agressive bite, etc.

Since the rear Brembos are on backorder until the end of March, for the short term I'll be using ME20s in the front with Brembos and StopTech Street Performance pads with the stock rotors and calipers in back. Would you have any idea how this combination might behave at the track? Thanks.

OC3 · 03-04-2012, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by persian54

get your own thread! lol

Don't make me post more photos, lulz.

wwjd15 · 03-04-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yyoo

Since the rear Brembos are on backorder until the end of March, for the short term I'll be using ME20s in the front with Brembos and StopTech Street Performance pads with the stock rotors and calipers in back. Would you have any idea how this combination might behave at the track? Thanks.

You might feel a bit less initial bite at high speed braking, also less stopping power during up-hill session at the track. It's perfectly fine to run that combo though.

aznbo187 · 03-04-2012, 08:05 PM

I want some Endless pads now...

persian54 · 03-05-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aznbo187

I want some Endless pads now...

Order from Ricky

persian54 · 08-03-2012, 08:04 PM

so a small update....

This really is the best brake system combo i have ever used in terms of stopping power + pedal feel

But they do squeak a bit on the street here and there (sometimes it can get bad, and sometimes it doesn't even squeal so iono).

Nonetheless, I love them. They're pricey, but they haven't really lost any life after ~3 track days and ~3k miles (actually I'd say closer to 2kish, I have only driven 700 mi on my car since May...)

MMisencik157 · 12-17-2012, 12:34 AM

Is that a typo that you used me20 in the front and n35s in the rear? The n35s is supposed to have a stronger initial bite and higher coefficient of friction than the me20

m3an · 12-17-2012, 12:47 AM

+1; I used to run the Endless Vito Nuova in my Evo and loved em

03-02-2012, 04:51 PM	#1
persian54 Lieutenant General Drives: MW E93 M3/E89 Z4 35i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal Posts: 15,405 iTrader: (260)	Review: Endless Brake Pads Review: Endless Brake Pads for StopTech Trophy ST60 ST40 BBK Endless ME20 Front Endless N35S Rear I can't write too much as I haven't even had them for a week yet... But I have to say: Endless pads are a great pad. Unfortunately, I don't have experience with many pads, but I have driven a couple cars with different pad compounds. My fav feature on these pads is that they bite almost immediately. I say "almost" cause I still have to push the pedal down a little At AutoClub, they stopped my car effortlessly. I would do several high speed to low speed stops without an issue. The first time I really got on it, my head almost hit my steering wheel as I wasn't expecting such a strong stop! (crappy seatbelts FTL..) They do squeak a bit more than I'd like to after the track day, but not as bad as my StopTech Street Perf pads did. Thank you wwjd15, Ricky@R's Tuning, for helping me get my Endless pads __________________ Next track day: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651089 Sorry I'm just someone who comes on here to fill a void..I dont have the $ to own a BMW. This is a nice E93:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434032
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03-03-2012, 12:18 PM	#9
flipm3 E46 + E90 Drives: E46 M3 + E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,516 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	I hear great thing about these pads and how they are very streetable. I almost went with a set as well, but decided to still stick with my StopTech Street Perf pads and PFC 06 combo. You mention that the initial bite is pretty instantaneous. Do you feel like you still have the ability to modulate your braking power fairly well? __________________ 2002 E46 M3 6MT \| Jet Black . Black Nappa \| My Build Thread 2009 E90 M3 DCT \| Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth

03-03-2012, 03:11 PM	#10
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03-03-2012, 03:42 PM	#11
wwjd15 Drives: 11 E92 M3 MR Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,255 iTrader: (6)	Thank you Sean! I'm glad you like the Endless I chose. For people who doesn't know Endless, I can mix match compound to get the braking power at your preference, such as high initial bite, progress bite, noise-free, low speed progress, high speed progress, low speed high initial, high speed agressive bite, etc. __________________ Build #1 NA: Big Willow 1:30.449 (NT01), Buttonwillow 13CW 1:56.634 (NT01), Autoclub Speedway Fontana 1:49.422 (NT01), Mfest2012 LMVS 1:59.002 (NT01+AD08), Streets of Willow 1:22.36 (RS3), Chuckwalla 2:02.46 (RS3), Laguna Seca 1:41.74 (R888), Infineon 1:50.346 (R888) Build #2 VF SC: Buttonwillow 13CW 1:54.037 (TD), Big Willow 1:29.63 (R888)

03-03-2012, 07:02 PM	#12
OC3 Havin' a blast! Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,737 iTrader: (0)	Love the big initial bite of my Endless ME20. . Attached Images __________________ 2013 E92 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP 2011 E90 M3 Jerez Black DCT ZCP (Gone - traded in) 2008 E90 M3 Jerez Black 6MT (Gone - End of Lease)

03-02-2012, 07:40 PM	#2
Raja Ventureshield Brigadier General Drives: BMW M3 coupe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,587 iTrader: (6)	you persians living large. StopTech love it.

03-02-2012, 08:53 PM	#5
thorny Lieutenant Drives: 2007 X5 E70, 2011 M3 E92 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 551 iTrader: (4)	Hmmmm. My stoptech performance pads dont make a sound they sometimes feel sort of rough the next day after the event, but get back to normal fast.

03-04-2012, 08:05 PM	#17
aznbo187 Private First Class Drives: AW M5 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So.Cal Posts: 189 iTrader: (1)	I want some Endless pads now...

08-03-2012, 08:04 PM	#19
persian54 Lieutenant General Drives: MW E93 M3/E89 Z4 35i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal Posts: 15,405 iTrader: (260)	so a small update.... This really is the best brake system combo i have ever used in terms of stopping power + pedal feel But they do squeak a bit on the street here and there (sometimes it can get bad, and sometimes it doesn't even squeal so iono). Nonetheless, I love them. They're pricey, but they haven't really lost any life after ~3 track days and ~3k miles (actually I'd say closer to 2kish, I have only driven 700 mi on my car since May...) __________________ Next track day: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651089 Sorry I'm just someone who comes on here to fill a void..I dont have the $ to own a BMW. This is a nice E93:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434032

12-17-2012, 12:34 AM	#20
MMisencik157 Enlisted Member Drives: Manual Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pleasanton/Chico Posts: 40 iTrader: (0)	Is that a typo that you used me20 in the front and n35s in the rear? The n35s is supposed to have a stronger initial bite and higher coefficient of friction than the me20

12-17-2012, 12:47 AM	#21
m3an Banned Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,612 iTrader: (2)	+1; I used to run the Endless Vito Nuova in my Evo and loved em

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