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      04-05-2016, 11:57 AM   #1
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which tune I use for ess 550? ess,bpm,evolve?

from your experience which company would you prefer to use to match up with the ESS 550 supercharger.


currently my car as the following mods
-evolve cat less stage 2 tune
-evolve dct tune
-dinan x pipe "added two 200 cell cats to this at the stock primary location"
-dinan pulley
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-exhaust muffler mod



thanks

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You'll get varying opinions, but I went from an ESS to BPM, hands down, my M3 just felt better. Both were stage 2.

Oh, forgot to mention, BPM customer support and follow up are outstanding. My vote = BPM.
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Same, I switched from ESS to BPM. Go with BPM
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BPM hands down followed by ESS.
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No one knows the superchargers better than the guys that made them. ESS hands down.
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No one knows the superchargers better than the guys that made them. ESS hands down.
Yeah, but the question is, who's a better tuner.
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Yeah, but the question is, who's a better tuner.
ESS has been in the supercharging game longer than anyone on here. Experience counts.

No one can say who's the best if unless they've worked with any of the others. We've seen most dynoed here.

OP: the crank pulley will need to be removed and returned to stock once the 535 Supercharger is installed.
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      04-05-2016, 09:58 PM   #8
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Bpm gets my vote. Great tune
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      04-05-2016, 11:04 PM   #9
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ESS on my car.
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ESS has been in the supercharging game longer than anyone on here. Experience counts.

No one can say who's the best if unless they've worked with any of the others. We've seen most dynoed here.

OP: the crank pulley will need to be removed and returned to stock once the 535 Supercharger is installed.
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Have any ESS cars come into your shop with another company's tune and switched the ESS tune? that would be the only way to convince me, is with a back to back comparison (zero hardware changes).
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      04-06-2016, 12:17 PM   #11
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Have any ESS cars come into your shop with another company's tune and switched the ESS tune? that would be the only way to convince me, is with a back to back comparison (zero hardware changes).
Yes, we see is that the car is equipped with during the current session. The ESS tunes have been spot on with compared the installs we perform in-house.

It seems the ones that go with 3rd party solutions are always chasing missing power or other issues (high AFRs, hesitation, etc). This results in going back and forth with the tuner, return trips on the dyno and costing more money and wasted time in the long run.
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      04-06-2016, 12:29 PM   #12
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only reason i would suggest evolve is because you already have their tune. i'm sure they would offer some type of discount if you were requesting a sc tune from them at this point, but that's just speculation.

otherwise bpm.
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only reason i would suggest evolve is because you already have their tune. i'm sure they would offer some type of discount if you were requesting a sc tune from them at this point, but that's just speculation.

otherwise bpm.
evolve uses a different blower and more than likely not the same injectors. ess' tunes are injector specific/boost specific
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None of these issues he mentioned come with the BPM tune, you also get some of the best and quickest support with Mike Benvo. Can listen to the people buying and running the tunes or the guys selling the tunes, up to you sir.
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None of these issues he mentioned come with the BPM tune, you also get some of the best and quickest support with Mike Benvo. Can listen to the people buying and running the tunes or the guys selling the tunes, up to you sir.
I get it depends if you want to give up Longevity for a bit of extra power...
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I get it depends if you want to give up Longevity for a bit of extra power...
Really no power difference between the two, or evolve for that matter. Lot more to a tune than just HP gains.
Ran 10k on BPM then 30k on ESS now another 8k on BPM, both run the engine in safe margins.
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Really no power difference between the two, or evolve for that matter. Lot more to a tune than just HP gains.
Ran 10k on BPM then 30k on ESS now another 8k on BPM, both run the engine in safe margins.
What are the biggest differences in your opinion between ESS and BPM's supercharger tunes? I've only ran the BPM NA tunes (both stages) and they are phenomenal. I can only assume that their SC tunes retain the positive traits of the NA tunes.
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What are the biggest differences in your opinion between ESS and BPM's supercharger tunes? I've only ran the BPM NA tunes (both stages) and they are phenomenal. I can only assume that their SC tunes retain the positive traits of the NA tunes.
Yes the SC tune keeps the same feel and traits of the NA stage 2 tune. Servotroic, engine/throttle response, smoothness etc.
Was never happy with the ESS tune, came with the SC so was like sure why not but disliked it as soon as the OMG SC is awesome feel faded. "I had stage 2 BPM tune before SC"
To me the BPM just feels much better, smooth, perfect throttle response, the steering feel all add up to make something good even better. Power wise they are very close if not the same, nothing I could tell atleast. Iv done dynos but in different parts of country in different temps on different gas.

The small things add up, Not bashing ESS. Hell gave em 10k for a awesome product but BPM is just awesome at tuning.
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