5.0's are fast :(

kotik · 07-19-2012, 06:01 AM

so we had a group of us go to Nring, and we decided to play on the abahn (no cars around). My buddy has the new 5.0 mustang with exhaust, intake and a chip. He says it's about 480hp. We did like 80-140ish pull. I took the 3rd gear and got away about a car lengh, and that's it... from 110 to about 140 he was pretty much in the same place behind me.... once again, I expected to beat him a lot more than that... maybe i'm having a boost leak??

Sean05 · 07-19-2012, 07:32 AM

Yes they are fast.... for the price you really cant beat it..

THE TECH · 07-19-2012, 07:55 AM

For the price, they're hard to beat.

nick3753 · 07-19-2012, 08:15 AM

Sounds like they are hard to beat for more price.

Cameronc08 · 07-19-2012, 08:18 AM

I have an '06 supercharged Saleen with a shaker at about 550hp and while I haven't had them driven side by side I'd say it is fairly close to my '12 stock e92 m3 dct. If your car is supercharged I would think it to be a helluva lot faster than a n/a 5.0, guess not!

ajvee · 07-19-2012, 08:31 AM

I presume you should be running about 6 to 7 PSI. Does your boost gauge read any different?

Longboarder · 07-19-2012, 08:54 AM

This could be possible. I had the opportunity to run a 5.0 with the exact mods as the one you ran, at a Shift-S3ctor side-by-side roll-on event. The owner of the 5.0 showed me a dyno sheet of it making 451 RWHP, so I was impressed at the delta from a stock 5.0 which I'm assuming is maybe 350-375 RWHP. Your ESS 575 makes what, around 500 RWHP?

muskamatt · 07-19-2012, 11:59 AM

This thread makes me regret buying a 335 instead of the 5.0

CSanto · 07-19-2012, 12:04 PM

You have a 575 kit and cant blow away a 5.0 mustang?

Shaan · 07-19-2012, 12:12 PM

i ran one yesterday, dont know if he was modded or not. Im pretty much stock , just exhaust and he pulled a good car and a half on me, theyre fastt

UnaBomber · 07-19-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

You have a 575 kit and cant blow away a 5.0 mustang?

something isnt right

you should have smoked him with a blower

THE-FN-MAN · 07-19-2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnaBomber

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

You have a 575 kit and cant blow away a 5.0 mustang?

something isnt right

you should have smoked him with a blower

+1 was it 6 speed vs 6 speed?

lenzm3edan · 07-19-2012, 01:24 PM

unless we are seriously underestimating a bolt on 5.0, I feel that your 575 kit should have beat him more than that, looking at gearing, weight and hp at indicated speed. I know the 5.0 has more torque but this was from a roll. Love the looks and performance of the 5.0 especially for the price, Ford did a good jod this time around

ChrisAW · 07-19-2012, 02:10 PM

If he was talking 480 wheel HP thats about right.

smmmurf · 07-19-2012, 02:23 PM

driver error or the ESS isnt tuned right

Team Plutonium · 07-19-2012, 04:04 PM

M3 with the 575 kit will walk that "lightly" modded 5.0. Either he fed you BS about his mods, or something is f@cked up on your end.

signes · 07-19-2012, 04:13 PM

Were you towing a boat at the time? Tied to a tree? Something doesn't sound right...

fusionchicken · 07-19-2012, 05:37 PM

as said your SC m3 should have put the hurt on the 5.0, a bolt on 5.0 does not make anywhere close to 500whp.

Beemw335 · 07-19-2012, 08:28 PM

No replacement for displacement.

studntloan · 07-19-2012, 08:43 PM

is he auto or stick, and same for you,
the new 5.0 gt with bolt ons and a tunes, should do low 11s-high 10s, my buddy has ones, there quick, but it wont keep up with a supercharged m3, somethings wrong

Longboarder · 07-19-2012, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muskamatt

This thread makes me regret buying a 335 instead of the 5.0

Why? See my post above. I ran the 451 RWHP 5.0 with my 335i with only a DCI, tune, meth and dps which at the time made only 16 psi and around 400 RWHP but still managed to creep slowly on the 5.0.

The density altitude was high that day (around 80 degrees at Big Willow which is 2,300 ft above sea level) so the turbos certainly helped me on this run.

fusionchicken · 07-19-2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Why? See my post above. I ran the 451 RWHP 5.0 with my 335i with only a DCI, tune, meth and dps which at the time made only 16 psi and around 400 RWHP but still managed to creep slowly on the 5.0.

The density altitude was high that day (around 80 degrees at Big Willow which is 2,300 ft above sea level) so the turbos certainly helped me on this run.

I was really close to pulling the trigger on a 5.0/BOSS but upon reading on their Chinese made manual transmission with lots of horrible stories I looked elsewhere. Lots of owners complain of broken transmissions and AFAIK there isn't a solution from Ford yet, hopefully somebody can prove me wrong.

It really is too bad as at the time I was massively itching for a v8 RWD manual coupe that is affordable and can be easily modified. The Coyote engine is awesome but without a reliable transmission to put that power to the ground (and auto wasn't an option for me) it was a major deal breaker.

07-19-2012, 06:01 AM	#1
kotik Lieutenant Drives: e90 M3 ESS 575 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 478 iTrader: (0)	5.0's are fast :( so we had a group of us go to Nring, and we decided to play on the abahn (no cars around). My buddy has the new 5.0 mustang with exhaust, intake and a chip. He says it's about 480hp. We did like 80-140ish pull. I took the 3rd gear and got away about a car lengh, and that's it... from 110 to about 140 he was pretty much in the same place behind me.... once again, I expected to beat him a lot more than that... maybe i'm having a boost leak??
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lenzm3edan First Pride Drives: E90, Mercedes ML 350, Outback Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Unknown. Posts: 945 iTrader: (6)	unless we are seriously underestimating a bolt on 5.0, I feel that your 575 kit should have beat him more than that, looking at gearing, weight and hp at indicated speed. I know the 5.0 has more torque but this was from a roll. Love the looks and performance of the 5.0 especially for the price, Ford did a good jod this time around __________________ ESS VT-1 550 silverstone E90 /// M3 - 6spd - AD08 - Spacers - H&R - AA exhaust - Primary cat delete - Custom test pipes - ESS tune - Lighted ZHP.

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nick3753 First Lieutenant Drives: BMW X5 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Posts: 380 iTrader: (0)	Sounds like they are hard to beat for more price.

07-19-2012, 08:18 AM	#5
Cameronc08 New Member Drives: '12 E92 M3/ '06 S/C Saleen Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 23 iTrader: (0)	I have an '06 supercharged Saleen with a shaker at about 550hp and while I haven't had them driven side by side I'd say it is fairly close to my '12 stock e92 m3 dct. If your car is supercharged I would think it to be a helluva lot faster than a n/a 5.0, guess not!

07-19-2012, 08:31 AM	#6
ajvee Major Drives: None Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: None Posts: 1,370 iTrader: (11)	I presume you should be running about 6 to 7 PSI. Does your boost gauge read any different?

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muskamatt First Lieutenant Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 323 iTrader: (0)	This thread makes me regret buying a 335 instead of the 5.0

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CSanto Major Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,314 iTrader: (1)	You have a 575 kit and cant blow away a 5.0 mustang?

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Shaan Private Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 94 iTrader: (2)	i ran one yesterday, dont know if he was modded or not. Im pretty much stock , just exhaust and he pulled a good car and a half on me, theyre fastt

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