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      11-12-2007, 01:21 PM   #111
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Just noticed in the parking lot, one M3 does not have the carbon roof? wonder what thats all about?

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      11-12-2007, 02:42 PM   #112
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If you opt for a sunroof then you dont get a CF roof.

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      11-21-2007, 11:54 AM   #113
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If you opt for a sunroof then you dont get a CF roof.

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Honestly? I didnt think they would even let you spec a sunroof? Man who would want a sunroof anyway.
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      11-23-2007, 07:10 AM   #114
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I'm lucky enought to see one every day on the office garage.
It's always parked by a a interlagos.

Next to them are two M6, two M5...

I almost drool every time i pass by them.
I love working on the same building as BMW
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      11-24-2007, 03:45 AM   #115
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i think this car looks the best in white
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      11-25-2007, 05:44 PM   #116
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Near the Brno's Track today....

a very dirty track-day:-)

My "Aw" car doesn't seem anymore new after today's experience..but now I know what this engine gives you in terms of enthusiasm during the last 1000 rpm. Brakes were ok, but what a smell.....
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      11-25-2007, 06:01 PM   #117
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Call me crazy but it looks even meaner with the racing dirt
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      11-25-2007, 06:14 PM   #118
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Wow, that third shot is sick. Just pure white evil. Awesome shot, infact its my new desktop.

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      11-25-2007, 07:19 PM   #119
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Oooh no, now thats just plain dirty, in a sexual way, you shouldnt have gone and posted those pics, now Im gonna have to dust off my batman outfit and see if the Mrs is up for some rumpy pumpy!
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      11-26-2007, 06:12 AM   #120
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Oooh no, now thats just plain dirty, in a sexual way, you shouldnt have gone and posted those pics, now Im gonna have to dust off my batman outfit and see if the Mrs is up for some rumpy pumpy!
OMG, you're so funny...

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      11-26-2007, 05:58 PM   #121
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OMG, you're so funny...

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U wanna see me in the batman outfit, now THAT is funny
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      11-26-2007, 07:44 PM   #122
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Pics or it didn't happen!
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U wanna see me in the batman outfit, now THAT is funny
Man, you promised not to tell that...


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      12-01-2007, 02:02 PM   #124
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There it is...
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      12-01-2007, 02:18 PM   #125
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I like that last shot, looks like you have just completed Le Mans!
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      12-02-2007, 09:54 PM   #126
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There it is...
+2...... I allready see it!!!!

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      12-02-2007, 11:20 PM   #127
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Honestly? I didnt think they would even let you spec a sunroof? Man who would want a sunroof anyway.
Well I would for one. The benefits of the carbon fibre roof comes into effect at about 110 MPH (guess; based on discussion with salesmen), whilst the benefits of the sunroof come into effect from 0 MPH upwards. Since I'm going to be driving the car around town at 70km/hr (max) most of the time, I'll get alot more enjoyment out of a sunroof than a CF roof. It's an M3, not a CSL track-day car.
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      12-03-2007, 02:28 AM   #128
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Well I would for one. The benefits of the carbon fibre roof comes into effect at about 110 MPH (guess; based on discussion with salesmen), whilst the benefits of the sunroof come into effect from 0 MPH upwards. Since I'm going to be driving the car around town at 70km/hr (max) most of the time, I'll get alot more enjoyment out of a sunroof than a CF roof. It's an M3, not a CSL track-day car.
Actually, since the CF room effectively lowers the center of gravity for the total car then the effect will come into play at much lower than 110 mph assuming your going around a corner. It has little benefit in straight line performance. A well experienced drive would probably be able to tell the difference at about 40 mph in a corner, and as the number of corners increases (slalom) the benefit proportionally increases.

The M3 will have DCT, not SMG. The release date for DCT is not currently known, but most rumors say March when the M3 launches in the US. Do a forum search for DCT or M-DCT to learn more about this fantastic transmission system.
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      12-03-2007, 03:13 AM   #129
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Actually, since the CF room effectively lowers the center of gravity for the total car then the effect will come into play at much lower than 110 mph assuming your going around a corner. It has little benefit in straight line performance. A well experienced drive would probably be able to tell the difference at about 40 mph in a corner, and as the number of corners increases (slalom) the benefit proportionally increases.

The M3 will have DCT, not SMG. The release date for DCT is not currently known, but most rumors say March when the M3 launches in the US. Do a forum search for DCT or M-DCT to learn more about this fantastic transmission system.
The CF roof is 5kg lighter than a steel roof, and maybe 10 (or lets say 15) kg less than a steel/sun roof. The car weighs 1580kg and is 1.42m high. Sure, a sun roof will raise the center of gravity, but by what? One or two centimeters. I wouldn't criticise someone for opting for the CF roof, but if I was criticised for getting a sunroof on my M3 (due this month), I'd say that if I wanted a track day car, I would have saved $70,000 and bought a Lotus 2-eleven.
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Im going CF purely for the look.

Black roof. Black leather. Summer will be fun
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the parking lot full of M3's is pretty close to what i'd call heaven.

Will post some pic's from the L.A. Auto Show shortly.
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Will post some pic's from the L.A. Auto Show shortly.
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