(E92 / E93) Official Alpine White M3 Coupe / Cabrio Thread - Page 2

Park2670 · 08-15-2007, 09:27 PM

Nope. wheels arent for sale yet. I have my parts department checking into it.

SoCalM311 · 08-15-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Park2670

Nope. wheels arent for sale yet. I have my parts department checking into it.

thanks for the useful reply

Park2670 · 08-15-2007, 10:26 PM

I work for a dealer. I check with my friend who works there everyday to see if the part numbers are available in the USA system yet. Did I do something wrong?

Epacy · 08-16-2007, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Park2670

I work for a dealer. I check with my friend who works there everyday to see if the part numbers are available in the USA system yet. Did I do something wrong?

Don't worry about the newb.

SoCalM311 · 08-16-2007, 10:31 AM

No I did mean thanks for the info because the previous guy before you posted a link that was sarcastic. Your parts info was perfect.thanks.

Park2670 · 08-16-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalM311

No I did mean thanks for the info because the previous guy before you posted a link that was sarcastic. Your parts info was perfect.thanks.

Ok that makes much more sense.

Epacy · 08-16-2007, 11:10 AM

Also in the Wallpaper section. Might not be as much traffic there.

Larger resolutions and a video are available from the M3 microsite on bmwusa.com

jtown · 08-16-2007, 01:29 PM

Don't you love how they cover up the muffler?

Epacy · 08-16-2007, 01:33 PM

Yes, they know they f'ed up.

MI6 · 08-16-2007, 02:04 PM

[quote=jtown;1293619]Don't you love how they cover up the muffler?

You know, I'm beginning to see more and more new cars showing the muffler, not just the new M3....

Why is this???

Granted, most of them have that aluminum look versus the old dirty brown/gray look but why show it in the first place.

Are companies trying to cut costs by making a shorter apron rather than a longer one to hide it???

southlight · 08-16-2007, 02:13 PM

Thanks Epacy!

Great pics...

Best regards, south

jtown · 08-16-2007, 04:22 PM

[quote=MI6;1293755]

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Originally Posted by jtown

Don't you love how they cover up the muffler?

You know, I'm beginning to see more and more new cars showing the muffler, not just the new M3....

Why is this???

Granted, most of them have that aluminum look versus the old dirty brown/gray look but why show it in the first place.

Are companies trying to cut costs by making a shorter apron rather than a longer one to hide it???

I agree. Ever since the new M showed up I've been looking at other cars to see if the muffler is showing and it actually is for most cars. Don't know why. Not really a deal breaker though.

///Murdock · 08-17-2007, 12:27 PM

wtf r u guys talking bout a visible muffler.... the e36, e46 and e92 all have visible mufflers.. as well as porsche gt3 and many many many other cars....

i dont get u people

Just_me · 08-21-2007, 01:13 AM

Here is a swedish M3 white

They did a rototest (dynotest) on this car and maximum of torque was 365.5NM, far off what BMW says (400nm).

southlight · 08-21-2007, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Here is a swedish M3 white

They did a rototest (dynotest) on this car and maximum of torque was 365.5NM, far off what BMW says (400nm).

Crossposting from GCZ:
The M5 has also been tested on the rototest (http://www.rri.se/popup/performanceg...h&ChartsID=153) and this car had 475 NM of wheel torque compared to it's 520 NM engine torque. That makes a drivetrain loss of about 8.65 %. If you calculate the same drivetrain loss for the M3, you get 365.4 NM. So if it really was the wheel torque they measured, everything's good.

BTW: Guess that topic would be worth an own thread.

Best regards, south

Epacy · 08-21-2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Here is a swedish M3 white

They did a rototest (dynotest) on this car and maximum of torque was 365.5NM, far off what BMW says (400nm).

Yeah, the real question is crank or wheel? CAn't say it is far off from what BMW claims without saying it is crank NM for sure.

southlight · 08-21-2007, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

Yeah, the real question is crank or wheel? CAn't say it is far off from what BMW claims without saying it is crank NM for sure.

On the webpage of the rototest (http://www.rri.se) they always state wheel torque and wheel power. So it's probably wheel torque, but you're right, the question remains...

Best regards, south

Just_me · 08-21-2007, 06:36 AM

Epacy, South has corrected me on germancarzone, I dont need another education

Im with south, let create a new thread about this subject..

Epacy · 08-21-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

Epacy, South has corrected me on germancarzone, I dont need another education

Im with south, let create a new thread about this subject..

Sorry, didn't check germancarzone before I replied here. I'm SO stupid!!!

Just_me · 08-21-2007, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

Sorry, didn't check germancarzone before I replied here. I'm SO stupid!!!

yeah yeah, get over it

Continue here:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...29#post1308629

aerisolphaln · 08-21-2007, 09:06 AM

Assuming the dyno numbers you quote are wheel torque, the M3 only has about 8.6% drive train loss. That's great.

I would be hard put to believe they measured crank torque on the brand new model's engine

Good news - 8.6% is amazing drivetrain effeciency.

K3N R3D · 08-21-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Crossposting from GCZ:
The M5 has also been tested on the rototest (http://www.rri.se/popup/performanceg...h&ChartsID=153) and this car had 475 NM of wheel torque compared to it's 520 NM engine torque. That makes a drivetrain loss of about 8.65 %. If you calculate the same drivetrain loss for the M3, you get 365.4 NM. So if it really was the wheel torque they measured, everything's good.

BTW: Guess that topic would be worth an own thread.

Best regards, south

Of course they are simular engines. So then if this is right, we should be able to estimate the RWHP as well dont ya think?

08-15-2007, 09:27 PM	#23
Park2670 Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UTAH Posts: 17,950 iTrader: (5)	Nope. wheels arent for sale yet. I have my parts department checking into it. __________________ Utah Chat Thread 2011 335d ///M-Sport

08-16-2007, 11:10 AM	#29
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,227 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Also in the Wallpaper section. Might not be as much traffic there. Larger resolutions and a video are available from the M3 microsite on bmwusa.com __________________ Pearl Bliss

08-16-2007, 01:33 PM	#31
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,227 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Yes, they know they f'ed up. __________________ Pearl Bliss

08-21-2007, 01:13 AM	#36
Just_me Lieutenant Drives: RWD Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 561 iTrader: (0)	Here is a swedish M3 white They did a rototest (dynotest) on this car and maximum of torque was 365.5NM, far off what BMW says (400nm). Attached Images

08-21-2007, 09:06 AM	#43
aerisolphaln First Lieutenant Drives: '05 G35 coupe 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA Posts: 396 iTrader: (0)	Dyno Numbers Assuming the dyno numbers you quote are wheel torque, the M3 only has about 8.6% drive train loss. That's great. I would be hard put to believe they measured crank torque on the brand new model's engine Good news - 8.6% is amazing drivetrain effeciency. __________________ Now:'05 G35 6MT\Laser Red\Beige\Sport\Premium 06/2008: M3, 335+Dinan, or ...

08-15-2007, 10:26 PM	#25
Park2670 Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UTAH Posts: 17,950 iTrader: (5)	I work for a dealer. I check with my friend who works there everyday to see if the part numbers are available in the USA system yet. Did I do something wrong?

08-16-2007, 10:31 AM	#27
SoCalM311 Private Drives: AW E46 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 81 iTrader: (0)	No I did mean thanks for the info because the previous guy before you posted a link that was sarcastic. Your parts info was perfect.thanks.

08-16-2007, 01:29 PM	#30
jtown Lieutenant Drives: TBD Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 596 iTrader: (0)	Don't you love how they cover up the muffler?

08-16-2007, 02:04 PM	#32
MI6 The World is Not Enough Drives: Aston DBS-R Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Skyfall Posts: 1,023 iTrader: (0)	[quote=jtown;1293619]Don't you love how they cover up the muffler? You know, I'm beginning to see more and more new cars showing the muffler, not just the new M3.... Why is this??? Granted, most of them have that aluminum look versus the old dirty brown/gray look but why show it in the first place. Are companies trying to cut costs by making a shorter apron rather than a longer one to hide it???

08-16-2007, 02:13 PM	#33
southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,633 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Epacy! Great pics... Best regards, south

08-17-2007, 12:27 PM	#35
///Murdock Private Drives: 06 M5, 04 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: BOS, USA Posts: 54 iTrader: (0)	wtf r u guys talking bout a visible muffler.... the e36, e46 and e92 all have visible mufflers.. as well as porsche gt3 and many many many other cars.... i dont get u people

08-21-2007, 06:36 AM	#40
Just_me Lieutenant Drives: RWD Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 561 iTrader: (0)	Epacy, South has corrected me on germancarzone, I dont need another education Im with south, let create a new thread about this subject..

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