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      08-30-2012, 10:58 PM   #23
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Can't go wrong with any ESS Kit. i have the vt2 600 bc I knew I would eventually go the biggest I could for CA, so I just saved myself the time and went with the big dog If I could I would be rolling the 650.
how is it that you're able to pass CA smog with the supercharger? do smog stations simply not notice the supercharger and you pass the sniff test?
I'm looking to get a supercharger, but worried about passing smog in CA
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How upgradable is the 535 if I change my mind later on? just change the pully, add intercooler and load new software?
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how is it that you're able to pass CA smog with the supercharger? do smog stations simply not notice the supercharger and you pass the sniff test?
I'm looking to get a supercharger, but worried about passing smog in CA
with new cars in CA I believe you have 4 years till you have to smog it. I usually only have my cars for 3-7 months. However now that I have the ESS supercharger on it, I dont want to get another car . however I will most likely de mod and sell the car in a couple years when the new M3 comes out.
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I finally finished the brake in on my VT1 this afternoon and I just arrive from a good test drive and let me tell you, I'm a happy costumer!!

My car is manual, I have nothing else performance wise then Corsa exhaust and VT1(tires are AD08s 255/295) and I can honestly tell you that I'm 100% satisfied with the way the car drives now, the power delivery could not be smoother and the power is exactly what I was hoping for, it is A LOT faster then before! Under 6000rpm you know it's there but it's nothing crazy but from 6500rpm and up the car is just a different animal! All in all, my car retains all of its daily driving qualitys and when I want to go fast, there's plenty of it under the pedal! Also the install was pretty easy, the kit is really well made!! Thanks ESS and IND!

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This will give you an idea of the power difference between the VT1-535 with stock exhaust and a stock M3 with stock exhaust. The VT1-535 will make an easy 110-130 whp more than a NA car that is stock or has full bolt on mods. This makes it a great value in my opinion considering you can spend close to the same amount buying all of the NA bolt on mods available.
this right here is why among other reasons i didnt fully bolt on. once i saw the prices ess offered you are just throwing money down the drain by fully bolting on compared to a 535 kit. you just can't go wrong
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      08-31-2012, 09:03 PM   #29
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I finally finished the brake in on my VT1 this afternoon and I just arrive from a good test drive and let me tell you, I'm a happy costumer!!

My car is manual, I have nothing else performance wise then Corsa exhaust and VT1(tires are AD08s 255/295) and I can honestly tell you that I'm 100% satisfied with the way the car drives now, the power delivery could not be smoother and the power is exactly what I was hoping for, it is A LOT faster then before! Under 6000rpm you know it's there but it's nothing crazy but from 6500rpm and up the car is just a different animal! All in all, my car retains all of its daily driving qualitys and when I want to go fast, there's plenty of it under the pedal! Also the install was pretty easy, the kit is really well made!! Thanks ESS and IND!

Don't know if anyone regret but I sure don't!!
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I have had my VT-1 535 for nearly two years, and I am extremely happy with it!

It adds an amazing amount of additional power, but it still keeps the car very drivable. It genuinely feels to me like this the way the car should have ideally come from the factory.
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      09-03-2012, 06:01 AM   #31
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I finally finished the brake in on my VT1 this afternoon and I just arrive from a good test drive and let me tell you, I'm a happy costumer!!

My car is manual, I have nothing else performance wise then Corsa exhaust and VT1(tires are AD08s 255/295) and I can honestly tell you that I'm 100% satisfied with the way the car drives now, the power delivery could not be smoother and the power is exactly what I was hoping for, it is A LOT faster then before! Under 6000rpm you know it's there but it's nothing crazy but from 6500rpm and up the car is just a different animal! All in all, my car retains all of its daily driving qualitys and when I want to go fast, there's plenty of it under the pedal! Also the install was pretty easy, the kit is really well made!! Thanks ESS and IND!

Don't know if anyone regret but I sure don't!!
Do you show any gains to your 0 to 60 time?
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      09-03-2012, 07:24 PM   #32
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I have the vt2 600 bc I knew I would eventually go the biggest I could for CA...
What do you mean "go the biggest I could for CA"? Why couldn't you put the biggest kit on in California?

I understood that all SCs for a e9x M3 were non-CARB compliant and could not pass smog so why would it matter which one you installed?
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      09-03-2012, 08:11 PM   #33
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110-130 whp for stock car. That means at least 150 hp for catless?
Depends on the exhaust system. We have seen some cars make more than others with different systems. We never quote numbers or tell customers what power they will or will not make based on products we do not build so the gains you get from any aftermarket exhaust changes we will just say can vary.
Roman, soil not quite ready for a SC but am interested in increasing power. I was looking at your tune. what else would you suggest short of a SC, ; e.g., pulley?
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Roman, soil not quite ready for a SC but am interested in increasing power. I was looking at your tune. what else would you suggest short of a SC, ; e.g., pulley?
pulley, full exhaust, intake, and if you still want to stay NA, stroker kit from either RD sport, dinan, or VAC!
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How much is the kit? How much and how long is the install?
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I would personally go with the intercooled 575 kit. It's nearly their least expensive kit but 575 horsepower is just more than enough for any situation on the street. The 575 kit can spin the wheels in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, so unless you find yourself regulary mashing the pedal in 4th gear (90 mph) you will see no difference.
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what's the break in period for the superchargers? I have one on the way and track days every weekend so just trying to work out when to install it.
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Do you show any gains to your 0 to 60 time?
Maybe not on the 0 to 60 because now the tires are lighting up easily in first gear (seriously the 1st and 2nd gear are SO MUCH MORE VIOLENT)
but I went to the 1/4 mile and did quick pass before leaving because there was a lot too many people so I had to waite at least 1/2h between each run, anyway I manage to do a 12.4 115mph with my manual M3 with just VT1 and that was with a 2.0 60foot(wich is not bad but not so good compare to the 1.9 I usually do) and with a bad shift in 3rd(hit the cut-off of the 2nd) so I should be able to do 12.1 maybe even 12.0 with a better launch and perfect shift, I also expect to trap 116-117mph! I'll post my better results in this thread as soon as I have the chance to go back to the track(maybe tomorrow if the temp is good).
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what's the break in period for the superchargers? I have one on the way and track days every weekend so just trying to work out when to install it.
200-300 miles on the blower is usually good. During this time keep it below 6k RPM as much as you can.
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200-300 miles on the blower is usually good. During this time keep it below 6k RPM as much as you can.
That would be so freaking next to impossible...LOL. Like getting that Red Ryder for Christmas and not being allowed to shoot it...
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All of the kits are upgradeable. Everyone is different on how much power they feel is enough, some upgrade over time and other stay with what they originally decided on. I have had every version of kit in my personal M3 and they are all great in their own way. Im currently running the VT1-535 and find that the car has great balance. The high HP VT2 kits can take the car to crazy fast if that is what you desire
Roman, I know questions like these are like a broken record, but would you mind describing it's performance, issues, etc, for the VT-535 on hot and ULTRAHUMID environments, such as muggy/humid/tropical south florida?

I'm very interested in getting the VT-535 (due to the fact that I don't want to do too much surgery on the car adding intercoolers, etc... rather just slap the SC, and the manifold, and the flash tune...easier to remove when going to dealer, or if i sell it, etc).

I know you've mentioned this in tid bits before here and there, but I'd love to get a single reply with all your thoughts and experiences on this kit in hot and humid weather (I know you've tracked your car in 100+ temps in AZ, but humidity is a killer here).

thanks in advance!
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^^ I've read about a lot of members doing an aftermarket oil cooler as well. It must run hot. Not dangerously hot, but hot.
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Roman, I know questions like these are like a broken record, but would you mind describing it's performance, issues, etc, for the VT-535 on hot and ULTRAHUMID environments, such as muggy/humid/tropical south florida?

I'm very interested in getting the VT-535 (due to the fact that I don't want to do too much surgery on the car adding intercoolers, etc... rather just slap the SC, and the manifold, and the flash tune...easier to remove when going to dealer, or if i sell it, etc).

I know you've mentioned this in tid bits before here and there, but I'd love to get a single reply with all your thoughts and experiences on this kit in hot and humid weather (I know you've tracked your car in 100+ temps in AZ, but humidity is a killer here).

thanks in advance!
Heat and extreme humidity will always have a negative effect on all motors, FI or NA when it comes to making power. With all of the testing I have done over the years with the VT1 and the customer feedback I have received on the VT1's we have sold I have never heard of any issues running the VT1 in any climate.

Will you lose power under these conditions? sure but how much will vary depending on the conditions and fuel quality. The lowest HP numbers I have seen on our VT1 cars here in 100+ deg weather and humidity is around 440-450 whp. These same cars make about 465-475 whp in ideal conditions so your only consideration is if you are ok with power under worst case scenario. If you are concerned about it and you feel you need more power you can always go the VT2 route and run our air / water cooling system which will help the car make some additional power in these conditions.
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I'm pretty sure you can go straight up like that, from 535 to 650. Off the top of my head, you just have to add the intercooler, tune, and new pulley for the blower.
I believe you need larger injectors as well. I upgraded from the 575 to the 600 and wish I would have gone big from the start. If it fits within your budget, get the 625 or 650 right off the bat and save the hassle and additional incremental expense of upgrading.
As much as this makes more sense financially, people like me who can get bored or want more of something very easily may see starting at 535 then upgrading progressively to 650+ as a better option.

But I'm sure even people like me would have wished to have started at 650 hp from the start
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