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      07-21-2007, 01:38 AM   #1
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Boy am I glad eveyone is bashing the M3

That way I don't have to pay any sticker mark up when I get mine, because people are bailing over speculation.I learned one thing a while ago. NEVER judge a car until you've seen it in person and DRIVEN it. I don't care what the magazines say. I love all types of cars, but there is something about an M that makes me smile.I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me. Bottom line, is that it comes down to splitting hairs. Yeah, I'm not gonna buy a car because someone wrote that the exhaust doesn't growl like it should or the steering is a tad off.If you wanna be a lemming , go ahead and jump off the cliff with the rest. But I will garuntee that after the car hits the streets people will be lining up again. I've sat back and read all the posts. I had to finally jump in. Seems to me that some of you are a little too jaded. Shouldn't it come down to buying what YOU like?If you are that worried someone might say something bad about your car , then you're gonna need therapy. There will always be a car out there that is faster and there will always be people that will hate you just because of the things you have.Just something you need to deal with.
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      07-21-2007, 05:52 AM   #2
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      07-21-2007, 07:37 AM   #3
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Alot of us have said the same

Btw welcome Reznick.
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That way I don't have to pay any sticker mark up when I get mine, because people are bailing over speculation.I learned one thing a while ago. NEVER judge a car until you've seen it in person and DRIVEN it. I don't care what the magazines say. I love all types of cars, but there is something about an M that makes me smile.I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me. Bottom line, is that it comes down to splitting hairs. Yeah, I'm not gonna buy a car because someone wrote that the exhaust doesn't growl like it should or the steering is a tad off.If you wanna be a lemming , go ahead and jump off the cliff with the rest. But I will garuntee that after the car hits the streets people will be lining up again. I've sat back and read all the posts. I had to finally jump in. Seems to me that some of you are a little too jaded. Shouldn't it come down to buying what YOU like?If you are that worried someone might say something bad about your car , then you're gonna need therapy. There will always be a car out there that is faster and there will always be people that will hate you just because of the things you have.Just something you need to deal with.



Sorry, I found this post to be a little funny. You are WISHING that people would listen to the reviews and change their mind so their wont be any markup but yet you made a post to convince everybody (and maybe you too) that its going to be a great car and that we should all buy it. Im sure if you think the car to be really good, then you wont try to convince anybody so you can get the car faster and cheaper
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      07-21-2007, 09:44 AM   #5
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Great post man! You summed my feelings too...

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      07-21-2007, 01:00 PM   #6
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Sorry, I found this post to be a little funny. You are WISHING that people would listen to the reviews and change their mind so their wont be any markup but yet you made a post to convince everybody (and maybe you too) that its going to be a great car and that we should all buy it. Im sure if you think the car to be really good, then you wont try to convince anybody so you can get the car faster and cheaper
I see you have a hard time deciphering sarcasm.
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      07-21-2007, 01:05 PM   #7
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      07-21-2007, 01:15 PM   #8
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      07-21-2007, 01:46 PM   #9
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Hey.. I agree with you guys and got my deposit down long time ago. I will definitely getting the car no matter what. I just thought the post is a little funny to read
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      07-21-2007, 01:55 PM   #10
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The only thing I "bash" is that the spirit of the car isn't available until the last 2000 rpms. That's a split sec of enjoyment and adrenaline. I was hoping for more hp down inthe 5s and 6s so the build up would last a little longer.
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      07-22-2007, 09:59 PM   #11
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Come on guys. I love bimmers as much as the next person, but don't give into blind faith. And also check out the other cars in your price range. IS-F, RS4, C63 AMG. These are all worthy contenders. The poster has basically already decided that he's going to get an M3 even though he claims that you can't judge a car until you've seen it on the road. If almost every reviewer said that the steering was a bit light, you can't really question the validity of their statements. When everyone says that the c63 AMG is a very strong contender for the E92 M3 you can't really just disregard that either.

The point is that shit goes both ways. You can't say the M3 is going to be better than the cars in it's price range until you've tryed the other cars too. So no, people arent acting like lemmings by having doubts about the new M3. The fanboism is just wearing off, and they now are going to try out other cars and compare to the M3.

I don't think any true bimmer fan will discount the new AMG or the RS4 until he has test driven BOTH.
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Come on guys. I love bimmers as much as the next person, but don't give into blind faith. And also check out the other cars in your price range. IS-F, RS4, C63 AMG. These are all worthy contenders. The poster has basically already decided that he's going to get an M3 even though he claims that you can't judge a car until you've seen it on the road. If almost every reviewer said that the steering was a bit light, you can't really question the validity of their statements. When everyone says that the c63 AMG is a very strong contender for the E92 M3 you can't really just disregard that either.

The point is that shit goes both ways. You can't say the M3 is going to be better than the cars in it's price range until you've tryed the other cars too. So no, people arent acting like lemmings by having doubts about the new M3. The fanboism is just wearing off, and they now are going to try out other cars and compare to the M3.

I don't think any true bimmer fan will discount the new AMG or the RS4 until he has test driven BOTH.
+1 i've still got my spot in the waitlist and will drive it but am definitely looking at alternatives including the rs4 and cayman s.
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      07-23-2007, 02:27 AM   #13
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This is top secret, but you can put a "chip" in a 335 and it like goes faster and stuff. It's the real competition. I'm glad this forum is the place to talk about chipping the 335.
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This is top secret, but you can put a "chip" in a 335 and it like goes faster and stuff. It's the real competition. I'm glad this forum is the place to talk about chipping the 335.
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Come on guys. I love bimmers as much as the next person, but don't give into blind faith. And also check out the other cars in your price range. IS-F, RS4, C63 AMG. These are all worthy contenders. The poster has basically already decided that he's going to get an M3 even though he claims that you can't judge a car until you've seen it on the road. If almost every reviewer said that the steering was a bit light, you can't really question the validity of their statements. When everyone says that the c63 AMG is a very strong contender for the E92 M3 you can't really just disregard that either.

The point is that shit goes both ways. You can't say the M3 is going to be better than the cars in it's price range until you've tryed the other cars too. So no, people arent acting like lemmings by having doubts about the new M3. The fanboism is just wearing off, and they now are going to try out other cars and compare to the M3.

I don't think any true bimmer fan will discount the new AMG or the RS4 until he has test driven BOTH.
I agree. And I personally am going to test drive all the cars you mentioned including the next generation CTS-V before I sign the next contract, which at this point in time appears to be for the M3. However, I think that all these cars will be great, so I wouldn't care if the M3 ends up being technically the "best" of the pack or not. The car I end up choosing will just be the best for me - and if may not ultimately be the M3.
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Come on guys. I love bimmers as much as the next person, but don't give into blind faith. And also check out the other cars in your price range. IS-F, RS4, C63 AMG. These are all worthy contenders. The poster has basically already decided that he's going to get an M3 even though he claims that you can't judge a car until you've seen it on the road. If almost every reviewer said that the steering was a bit light, you can't really question the validity of their statements. When everyone says that the c63 AMG is a very strong contender for the E92 M3 you can't really just disregard that either.

The point is that shit goes both ways. You can't say the M3 is going to be better than the cars in it's price range until you've tryed the other cars too. So no, people arent acting like lemmings by having doubts about the new M3. The fanboism is just wearing off, and they now are going to try out other cars and compare to the M3.

I don't think any true bimmer fan will discount the new AMG or the RS4 until he has test driven BOTH.
Yeah,,, that was my point. I don't have ANY brand loyalty. I have pretty odd love for all different cars. Just like I wouldn't buy the newest car out because somebody said it was the greatest. I wouldn't turn my back on something just because somebody says it isn't. EVERY car has some compromises to it. DRIVE WHAT YOU LOVE!!!!! Seems like thinking for yourself has become a lost art.
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That way I don't have to pay any sticker mark up when I get mine, because people are bailing over speculation.I learned one thing a while ago. NEVER judge a car until you've seen it in person and DRIVEN it. I don't care what the magazines say. I love all types of cars, but there is something about an M that makes me smile.I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me.
Well put and most people won't be about to drive the E92 ///M to it's full potential anyway.

They can't even drive their current car to it's full potential.
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I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me.

Well, it was such people who made the M3 what it was in the first place. Without their input it would have stayed the niche model it was born. The M legend didn't grow because of all the original owners, of which there were relatively few.
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I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me.

Well, it was such people who made the M3 what it was in the first place. Without their input it would have stayed the niche model it was born. The M legend didn't grow because of all the original owners, of which there were relatively few.
^ nowTHATS funny! I thought it was the engineers and designers that made cars what they are . Here all along it was those crafty jounalists. If it wasn't for that damn Consumer Reports I could still get a Pontiac Azteck today. Durtty Bastids . I smell a conspiracy!! ( and some sarcasm ) The beemer in my garage has 2 wheels
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I'm sorry but I'm not about to let auto journalist make up my mind for me.

Well, it was such people who made the M3 what it was in the first place. Without their input it would have stayed the niche model it was born. The M legend didn't grow because of all the original owners, of which there were relatively few.


The relationship between most auto journalists and engineers is not that different from the relationship between art critics and artists. One comments, the other creates what is being commented on. It's pretty one-sided really. Ultimately, only the customer can give any kind of meaningful feedback to the engineer, not the journalist, simply because cars are not designed for journalists...
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