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      05-08-2013, 01:27 PM   #23
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Very nice,good work Mike !
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      05-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #24
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I had an F30 loaner last weekend - Start/Stop was the most annoying, stupidest thing I have ever seen on a car. There is a jolt when the car restarts and you drive off. How is this good for the engine, trans, starter, etc.

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      05-08-2013, 09:38 PM   #25
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I had an F30 loaner last weekend - Start/Stop was the most annoying, stupidest thing I have ever seen on a car. There is a jolt when the car restarts and you drive off. How is this good for the engine, trans, starter, etc.

No thanks.

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I had an F30 also and it was absolutely awful, exactly what you described.

In my M3 (although I never use the feature and dislike it), it is buttery smooth on shut off and restart
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      05-08-2013, 11:23 PM   #26
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I had an F30 loaner last weekend - Start/Stop was the most annoying, stupidest thing I have ever seen on a car. There is a jolt when the car restarts and you drive off. How is this good for the engine, trans, starter, etc.

No thanks.

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Agreed. The dealer gave me a 335i loaner while they try to fix the debacle they created with my car, and it also has this. Fortunately though, there's a little button on top of the starter button that you can hit to turn this feature off. Only thing is you have to do it every time you get in (Doesn't remember your last setting).
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      05-08-2013, 11:35 PM   #27
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I had an F30 loaner last weekend - Start/Stop was the most annoying, stupidest thing I have ever seen on a car. There is a jolt when the car restarts and you drive off. How is this good for the engine, trans, starter, etc.

No thanks.

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Agreed. The dealer gave me a 335i loaner while they try to fix the debacle they created with my car, and it also has this. Fortunately though, there's a little button on top of the starter button that you can hit to turn this feature off. Only thing is you have to do it every time you get in (Doesn't remember your last setting).
Yup and the other thing that kept bothering me is the proximity to the start button, given the steering wheel blocks it in my seating position.

Makes you hit the wrong button sometime. It's just surprising to me that the new models are more abrupt than the 12 and 13 M's.
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      05-09-2013, 11:49 AM   #28
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I had an F30 also and it was absolutely awful, exactly what you described.

In my M3 (although I never use the feature and dislike it), it is buttery smooth on shut off and restart
+1.......the feature is horrible on the F30 and works like magic in the M3. I've tried it a few times but I doubt it saves enough fuel for me to use all the time......Phil
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      05-09-2013, 12:05 PM   #29
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Well, I'm glad they did it right in the M3.
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curious if you can say what options you coded to get this to work. Is this m3 compatible only or could it work on an e92 328i?
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      06-07-2015, 03:22 AM   #31
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I doubt he will share that info. $$$

I coded it on my vehicle, added the button and it didn't work.

Maybe because I didn't really give it too much time to hit all the necessary "steps" before its activated.

As far as hardware:

A) DC-DC Converter that sits in the box with the DME + Some wires ran (mainly to JBE) - I think this can be ignored as long as you dont code your JBE to expect it to be there. Its mainly used so that your lights dont "dim" every time the car starts and stops.

B) Upgraded starter and alternator... Although these are not 100% needed.

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curious if you can say what options you coded to get this to work. Is this m3 compatible only or could it work on an e92 328i?
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      06-07-2015, 07:22 AM   #32
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Mike, you can code the light to have memory and so it won't default to off every time, but it will remember your last preference each time you start the car.

I assume Integration updates give you that setting even though it's originally a 2008. (

Not sure why everyone is ripping on this feature! I mean sure it's a bit clunky, compared to some other designs (since it was not part of the original design,) but if you're trying to be economical it's nice not watching the L/100km inch up as you're sitting at a light.

I think it's a nice-to-have, considering how thirsty the S65 is.

Oh haha, I went to look up the code for you and found reference to it on your website. Never mind then.

http://www.bpmsport.com/Coding.pdf
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      06-07-2015, 12:36 PM   #33
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It's just more wear and tear on the motor. We all know when a lot wear happens to a motor ....right? Why would you want to do it over and over again? It's not a hybrid.
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It's just more wear and tear on the motor. We all know when a lot wear happens to a motor ....right? Why would you want to do it over and over again? It's not a hybrid.
More wear and tear on the starter motor than anything else - but I did change my starter to the newer style which is supposedly much more robust than the non MSA version.
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      06-07-2015, 01:05 PM   #35
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I guess it's still good to see what our cars are capable of and that people have choices.
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Want to share if this SHOULD work with just the button and coding?

I didn't really give it much of my time, and it was mid winter so I think the temps were too low for MSA to kick in.

So ware and tare aside, should this work without the DC-DC converter assuming I don't code the JBE to probe for it?

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More wear and tear on the starter motor than anything else - but I did change my starter to the newer style which is supposedly much more robust than the non MSA version.
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Interesting retrofit. I'm like you: "I'd rather have a feature and not needed it then need a feature and not have it." Love the tech stuff.
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