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      10-05-2010, 10:18 PM   #1
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E92 Hifi Upgrade Speaker Recommendations

I'm re-using some leftover Alpine Gear from an Evo that I had. The system I'm doing in my E92 M3 will have the following:

Alpine PXE-H660 processor (would love a bit-one but hard to find out here)
Alpine PDX 4.150 amp for fronts & front under-seats
Alpine PDX 2.150 amp for rear speakers
Apline PDX 1.1000 mono amp
Alpine 12" Type-X sub in ported enclosure in trunk, front-firing through open pass-through

I'm going to try this with the stock speakers (with amp gains WAY down) for a bit and then decide on speaker upgrades. At least I'll have a real sub right off, and hopefully don't cook my stock speakers messing about.

I'm looking for speaker recommendations, want full-range front sound with very good mid-bass, so I guess that means some kind of bi-amped 3-way instead of the usual SWS-8 route. What would you guys do in my case of limited space of the E92? I've reviewed past posts on this subject, but would like some current input.
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I'm also trying to choose some front speakers for my E92 (not an M3). You can find my thread (and a lot of other good info) over in e90post.com. These are the options I know about for a drop in replacement:

OEM Logic 7 Speakers (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
OEM Individual Audio Speakers (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
BSW Stage 1 Audio Upgrade (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
Focal Polyglass 100 VRS
Focal K2 Power 100 KRS
Musicar upgrade (Coming soon, ask VP Electricity)

Fit with modification or adapters:
Morel Dotech Ovation
Morel Hybrid Ovation (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405224)
Most of the 4" speakers on this list if you're creative enough:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343673


The problem with using any OEM or BSW option is that they have less than ideal frequency response that are designed to pair with a specific amplifier. Without some way of adjusting the signal to the speaker, it's not going to sound very good.

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      10-06-2010, 06:11 AM   #3
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I'm also trying to choose some front speakers for my E92 (not an M3). You can find my thread (and a lot of other good info) over in e90post.com. These are the options I know about for a drop in replacement:

OEM Logic 7 Speakers (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
OEM Individual Audio Speakers (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
BSW Stage 1 Audio Upgrade (Not intended for aftermarket amplifiers)
Focal Polyglass 100 VRS
Focal K2 Power 100 KRS
Musicar upgrade (Coming soon, ask VP Electricity)

Fit with modification or adapters:
Morel Dotech Ovation
Morel Hybrid Ovation (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405224)
Most of the 4" speakers on this list if you're creative enough:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343673


The problem with using any OEM or BSW option is that they have less than ideal frequency response that are designed to pair with a specific amplifier. Without some way of adjusting the signal to the speaker, it's not going to sound very good.
I'm using the Individual Audio speakers (only the mids/tweeters, not the OEM woofers) with aftermarket amps and processor and they sound great.
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I'm re-using some leftover Alpine Gear from an Evo that I had. The system I'm doing in my E92 M3 will have the following:

Alpine PXE-H660 processor (would love a bit-one but hard to find out here)
Alpine PDX 4.150 amp for fronts & front under-seats
Alpine PDX 2.150 amp for rear speakers
Apline PDX 1.1000 mono amp
Alpine 12" Type-X sub in ported enclosure in trunk, front-firing through open pass-through

I'm going to try this with the stock speakers (with amp gains WAY down) for a bit and then decide on speaker upgrades. At least I'll have a real sub right off, and hopefully don't cook my stock speakers messing about.

I'm looking for speaker recommendations, want full-range front sound with very good mid-bass, so I guess that means some kind of bi-amped 3-way instead of the usual SWS-8 route. What would you guys do in my case of limited space of the E92? I've reviewed past posts on this subject, but would like some current input.
It should sound pretty decent with the OEM speakers, actually.

For the front and underseat I would go with Morel Hybrid Ovation components and ADMW 9" midbass and either keep the rear OEM or go with Morel Integra coaxials as replacements if your budget permits.
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^^^Minus the ADMW9 tha'ts my setup. HO II in the doors, IO in the center and rears.
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It should sound pretty decent with the OEM speakers, actually.

For the front and underseat I would go with Morel Hybrid Ovation components and ADMW 9" midbass and either keep the rear OEM or go with Morel Integra coaxials as replacements if your budget permits.
Sounds like a really good recommendation, and I can deal with making spacers for the 9" if needed. Hopefully, the mids will fit without too much crazyness. Is the ADMW 9" is a Morel as well?

Now the real question is... Can anyone turn me on to a good Morel dealer that has stock? I'm in Hawaii, so the chances of finding product here are nil. Please PM me any good Morel dealers if forum rules preclude from posting such info here.
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Ken at musicar northwest (vp electricity) is a Morel dealer.
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Sounds like a really good recommendation, and I can deal with making spacers for the 9" if needed. Hopefully, the mids will fit without too much crazyness. Is the ADMW 9" is a Morel as well?

Now the real question is... Can anyone turn me on to a good Morel dealer that has stock? I'm in Hawaii, so the chances of finding product here are nil. Please PM me any good Morel dealers if forum rules preclude from posting such info here.
I did an E93 M3 with Morel front/rear and SWS-8 underseat, but that was before the owner decided to add a sub. Because you already are planning to add a sub then the ADMW will be a better choice as midbass.

For the Hybrid Ovations to fit your E92 M3 doors you will need a spacer like this: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=55
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I did an E93 M3 with Morel front/rear and SWS-8 underseat, but that was before the owner decided to add a sub. Because you already are planning to add a sub then the ADMW will be a better choice as midbass.

For the Hybrid Ovations to fit your E92 M3 doors you will need a spacer like this: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=55
Got a picture if it with the speaker installed? I'm not quite visualizing how it snaps in. Sounds like a good option for the E92/93 guys.
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Got a picture if it with the speaker installed? I'm not quite visualizing how it snaps in. Sounds like a good option for the E92/93 guys.
No, sorry...
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Got any extra of these rings you can sell?
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Hit up 808MGuy or VP Electricity. Both of them have rings that will work. I have a second set I won't be using as well.
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Got any extra of these rings you can sell?
I can make a set if interested.
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Hit up 808MGuy or VP Electricity. Both of them have rings that will work. I have a second set I won't be using as well.
I'm fairly settled on getting 808MGuy's rings, but I am also looking at other solutions that may allow a deeper speaker in there. If I can figure out how to get the Morels in there with 808MGuy's ring, then that will be the route I'll go as he's local to me.
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I'm fairly settled on getting 808MGuy's rings, but I am also looking at other solutions that may allow a deeper speaker in there. If I can figure out how to get the Morels in there with 808MGuy's ring, then that will be the route I'll go as he's local to me.
Unfortunately, you won't be able to get the Morels in there with my rings since they use the more traditional mounting scheme of attaching the adapter ring to the factory mounts. Technic's mounting scheme actually pushes the speaker towards the front of the door panel to create more space for a deeper speaker. The only thing with that setup is that the factory grill doesn't snap into the door panel anymore so it is attached to the speaker with dynamat. Unfortunately, you gotta give up something to get something in this case. There is no other way to get a deeper speaker in there. One method is not better than the other. Its a matter of what you are willing to sacrifice.
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The rings that 808MGuy sells are what you would use to install the Focal speakers. They convert from the BMW 3 hole mount to the standard 4 hole mount. They only will work with very shallow speakers in the E92.
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Technic, with your E92 rings, how tight is the connection between the grills and the leather of the door panels?
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I'm fairly settled on getting 808MGuy's rings, but I am also looking at other solutions that may allow a deeper speaker in there. If I can figure out how to get the Morels in there with 808MGuy's ring, then that will be the route I'll go as he's local to me.
There's no reason Billy's rings won't work. Same with Ken's. You attach the speaker to the adapter and drop them in. I know that Ken's adapters will definintely work with the Morels. It's what I'm using and what Ken uses on all his E9x installs. Definintely hit him up for the Morels and the adapters.
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Hi I am think about this setup:

Amp: JL Audio XD600/6
Mid + Tweet: Focal K2 Power 100KRS
Bass: asi Earthquake SWS-8

Shall take rather BSW stage 1?

Why there is the crossover in Focal set, when the OEM tweeters have their own cabel connected, or not??

Thanks
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Got a picture if it with the speaker installed? I'm not quite visualizing how it snaps in. Sounds like a good option for the E92/93 guys.
I had a set installed using your adapters and Technic's mount. This isn't installed but you get the idea. Plus Technic custom factory grill install on Morel speakers.
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I have one silly question....does exist upgrade for hifi audio of e92 (with new AMP, and all speakers replace) around 1000 USD?
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The problem with using any OEM or BSW option is that they have less than ideal frequency response that are designed to pair with a specific amplifier. Without some way of adjusting the signal to the speaker, it's not going to sound very good.
Actually, that's not true -- our drivers perform quite admirably when used with a crossover network:

http://www.bavsound.com/product/727/...2-Most-Models/
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