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      08-07-2012, 11:29 PM   #111
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I know I might sound like a good hearted person and a prick BUT I don't feel sorry for the driver of the M3.
Does anybody see the REAL reason this happened. Driver of the M3 was thinking he was a pro racing driver and tries to take the car with the camera with another car in front of him. Driver of the M3 accelerates to SQUEEZE and loses control. Good for you. Next time slow down.
Good thing that M3's are solid cars.
Ditto. As long as no one was hurt, driver got what he deserved IMO.
You are correct, obviously, I was wondering what moron drives around camera on all the time.
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      08-07-2012, 11:52 PM   #112
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I hope the driver and passengers are ok !
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      08-08-2012, 12:14 AM   #113
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I am guessing 50%+ that it's some rich young "drunk" guy behind the wheel. Yeah you heard me right. Way too many drunk driving in Taiwan and the law can easily be paid off... Sad stuff.

My sympathy if the driver wasn't drunk, or thank god that dude didn't kill some pedestrian and ruin someone's family...
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      08-08-2012, 12:44 AM   #114
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Is it possible that the M3 driver has set the Tracktion Control to MDM or Off?
When you drive decently, the car should not break out that way.
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      08-08-2012, 01:00 AM   #115
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He was just going too fast... Slow down is how u can prevent this... And if ur driving a RwD slow the fawk down more ... LOL
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      08-08-2012, 01:04 AM   #116
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so, does everyone drive around recording every mile that they travel these days? I must have missed that memo
Pretty much... @ least in Asia, many people put a video blackbox on the dash to record everytime the engine starts.
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      08-08-2012, 01:38 AM   #117
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I doubt the dsc was on!
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      08-08-2012, 01:47 AM   #118
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He lost when start braking, if he leave 90% trottle and make a little bit overstering wheel keep grip and dsc do the rest. He start an energybraking too late..:-((
Afraid for he and M3...
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      08-08-2012, 03:45 AM   #119
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I don't think skid pad solves that: He was hydroplaning, and had x amount of distance between him and the wall. If you keep on sliding until you hit the wall - practice doesn't help you...
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      08-08-2012, 03:49 AM   #120
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Pretty much... @ least in Asia, many people put a video blackbox on the dash to record everytime the engine starts.
Yup I just got mine a few days ago. The cam only costed 30 USD and it is worth it because the local people drive like crazy over here!
Someone posted earlier that overtaking in the right lane is dangerous. In China you often have no other choice as the speed limit is often lower in the right lanes forcing all the passenger cars to the left. They actually give you a speeding ticket if you drive 120 in a 100kmh lane just because your habit is to keep to the right like in the west... Therefore you often have to overtake using the right lane, and some people even use the emergency lane for overtaking. See below video: (Password is "123")

http://player.youku.com/player.php/s...ODUyNDY4/v.swf

btw its not a real M3 sedan, just a 318i/320i/325i owner with no taste...
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      08-08-2012, 04:54 AM   #121
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I love how everyone's an expert on this blog making the reason this happened so complex. Plain and simple: you don't mash the gas when changing lanes in the rain or snow; especially in a high performance front engine rear drive car...and it scares me that some commenters on here think "oh DSC must have been off because he would've been fine." Maybe it was off and maybe it wasn't, but DSC does NOT defy the laws of physics or hydroplaning! Sheesh! I don't know if I want some of you on here driving performance cars if you drive around thinking you can do whatever you want and DSC will save you
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      08-08-2012, 07:23 AM   #122
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Why Would Someone be magically be video taping this??? and a m3 just crash and flip over??
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      08-08-2012, 07:41 AM   #123
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With my experience on wet surface driving Im pritty sure this wouldn't have happened if MDM or DSC would have been ON....
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      08-08-2012, 07:42 AM   #124
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I love how everyone's an expert on this blog making the reason this happened so complex. Plain and simple: you don't mash the gas when changing lanes in the rain or snow; especially in a high performance front engine rear drive car...and it scares me that some commenters on here think "oh DSC must have been off because he would've been fine." Maybe it was off and maybe it wasn't, but DSC does NOT defy the laws of physics or hydroplaning! Sheesh! I don't know if I want some of you on here driving performance cars if you drive around thinking you can do whatever you want and DSC will save you
+1. You can hear the M3's engine revving before it comes into view - clearly too much throttle and speed for conditions....

Still hope occupants are ok though... I'll bet that driver never does that again!
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      08-08-2012, 08:01 AM   #125
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Why not just slow the F**K down!!! Hopefully no one else was hurt, why do this in the rain???
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      08-08-2012, 08:16 AM   #126
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If you have ever aquaplaned before, you will know that there is nothing even remotely predictable about it. The best way to prevent an incident like the video in the OP is to not make sudden maneuvers when there is any puddling, make sure that you have plenty of tread depth if you plan on doing any driving in the rain, and keep the wheel absolutely straight if you feel the car 'planing. Aside from that, all you can do is just pray that you gain traction before you smash into something.
There is always the option of slowing down all together... there should be no reason to be speeding in the rain like that without consequence.
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      08-08-2012, 08:33 AM   #127
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      08-08-2012, 08:35 AM   #128
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      08-08-2012, 09:38 AM   #129
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I know that highway... Don't think he hydroplaned. Probably just bad move, too fast and wrong timing.
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      08-08-2012, 09:48 AM   #130
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Wow thats is crazy!
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      08-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #131
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So sad to see I hope the driver and passengers are ok
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      08-08-2012, 10:45 AM   #132
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I'll give a 10.0 score on that flip... M3's can stick it. Landed on it's tire after a full flip. In all seriousness I hope they are okay.

But next time leave the fast and furious to Vin Diesel.
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