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      08-06-2012, 03:29 PM   #23
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      08-06-2012, 03:34 PM   #24
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Right now the only way to guarantee an German 3 and not So African is to pick it up in Munich. The 3 will probably continue to be built in Germany so there is a chance that ED will continue. (I hope)
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      08-06-2012, 03:35 PM   #25
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WOW BMW...really? just has to follow Audi and build a Mexican plant! Well it's most likely going to incorporate what South African production did for the NA market. A large allocation will probably come from Mexico with the remainder being sent in from Germany. They're then probably going to focus South African production for emerging markets in Asia. Coupe and convertibles will still be built in Germany.

This is how Merc is doing with the W205 C Class. Refocus South African production, add the majority of US allocation to Alabama and import the remaining from Bremen, Germany.
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      08-06-2012, 03:38 PM   #26
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Hecho En Mexico - Not my BMW.
Cell phone maybe, but not my car.

Made in America.
Made in Germany.

I won't be buying one made in Mexico.
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      08-06-2012, 04:07 PM   #27
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Hahaha! However, Mexican delivery may be more exhilarating than European delivery because of the much higher adrenaline you get trying to escape gang warfare, drug cartels, fully automatic weapons, and machetes with your new BMW.
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      08-06-2012, 04:21 PM   #28
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I'd take a Chinese made BMW over a Mexican made BMW any day.

Looks like the only way to ensure you get a German car is ED.
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      08-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #29
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Ha! Hopefully this development will not prevent owners from doing ED on 3 series in the future. Presumably they will still be making 3 series in Germany as well. Right?

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... I don't really care that the new factory will be in Mexico, I'm just disappointed that BMW will have a front wheel drive car.
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      08-06-2012, 04:59 PM   #31
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I agree with the plant in Spartanburg.. The US is a huge market for BMW so why not also help out the US with jobs during a terrible time.. But the thought of a plant in Mexico makes me sick.. BMW is making a lot of mistakes
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      08-06-2012, 05:16 PM   #32
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Bit confused here. I'm pretty sure BMW South Africa exports 3 Series to most RHD markets, but I know they produce LHD models as well. Where do the LHD models go?
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Bit confused here. I'm pretty sure BMW South Africa exports 3 Series to most RHD markets, but I know they produce LHD models as well. Where do the LHD models go?
to the US, probably among others.
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Bit confused here. I'm pretty sure BMW South Africa exports 3 Series to most RHD markets, but I know they produce LHD models as well. Where do the LHD models go?
I am in Canada and factory order my 3 series last year. I confirmed that it was built in Munich. We get a mix of SA and Munich production here. To be honest though, most people say the SA builds are as good as any from Munich
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      08-06-2012, 05:57 PM   #35
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I really believe BMW would be better off building this plant in the US, somewhere in the Southeast. Labor may be cheaper in Mexico, but US infrastructure is better, and the managers don't have to worry about getting shot by some drug gang.

I know a great site right across I-55 from the Nissan plant in Canton MS.
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I really believe BMW would be better off building this plant in the US, somewhere in the Southeast. Labor may be cheaper in Mexico, but US infrastructure is better, and the managers don't have to worry about getting shot by some drug gang.

I know a great site right across I-55 from the Nissan plant in Canton MS.
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      08-06-2012, 06:26 PM   #37
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Mexicans?!?!?!

damn u can really tell who are the rascist MF's on here!!!! jus becus something is made in mexico doesn't mean the cars will be poorly built look at all the stuff "made in china" alot of useless crap and then there's alot of great stuff coming from that country sayin Mexicans is like saying the "N" word or Red&@&& be respectful not everything in mexico is a bad thing!!
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      08-06-2012, 06:26 PM   #38
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and the quality of the mexican made VWs is outstanding!
NOT!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=796_1322406985
I had a German made VW golf GTI in my twenties,it wasnt the most reliable car.

Cars assembled in Mexico

Acura MDX ,Acura ZDX,Chevrolet Camaro, Chevrolet Equinox, Chevrolet Impala, Chrysler 300 Chrysler Town & Country, Dodge Challenger, Dodge Charger

Dodge Grand Caravan, Ford Edge Ford Flex, GMC Terrain,Honda Civic sedan and coupe, Civic sedan and coupe Si,Lexus RX350 Lincoln MKT Lincoln MKX

Toyota Corolla,Toyota Matrix, Toyota RAV4, Volkswagen Routan

Cadillac Escalade EXT ,Cadillac SRX ,Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Aveo ,Chevrolet HHR ,Chevrolet Silverado and Silverado Hybrid ,Dodge Journey ,Fiat 500 ,Ford Fiesta

Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid ,GMC Sierra, Sierra Hybrid and Sierra Crew Cab ,Honda CR-V Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid Nissan Sentra Nissan Versa Ram 2500/3500/4500/5500

Toyota Tacoma Saab 9-4X Volkswagen Jetta/Jetta

Some of the most reliable cars like the Honda Civic,Toyota Tacoma,Corolla are made in Mexico.
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      08-06-2012, 06:26 PM   #39
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The new BMW is losing it's appeal. It guess I'll have to keep my e92 for the next 10 or 15 years.

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Although I realize that the proposed Mexican plant would be automated with the same equipment as the German and S.C. plants use, I'm not so sure about the supply of components such as trim, interior parts, etc. I've seen Mexican VW products that are not too good in this respect, but does that mean that German produced ones are any better?

Regardless, I'm not going to be the first one to buy their new Mexican-built product. I can see how they would want to drastically reduce labor costs with their new VW-fighting FWD cars, but the 3-series? Why not build onto their proven Greenville plant and build them there? Surely they can absorb the average $14/hour labor cost in the price of these cars. The suppliers pass the test for the X's, so they should be able to do so with the 3-series as well.
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Sounds like a great idea. I'm loving it. Now I can just fly down to Mexico and visit my uncle that works at the plant. Hand him $20k cash and walk out with a brand new 3 series fully load.


And probably get jack two blocks away. Lol



I'm Mexican and honestly I don't agree having the 3 series build in Mexico nor America. I think it should stay in Germany. Because of the name and symbol that the 3 series represents to the company.

Hey what country man wouldn't be happy to build the most popular car in their country. Again I'm not against the country my background is from, but it's about the details that only a country that built it and knows the value of this symbolic 3 series represents to most.
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I had a German made VW golf GTI in my twenties,it wasnt the most reliable car.

Cars assembled in Mexico

Acura MDX ,Acura ZDX,Chevrolet Camaro, Chevrolet Equinox, Chevrolet Impala, Chrysler 300 Chrysler Town & Country, Dodge Challenger, Dodge Charger

Dodge Grand Caravan, Ford Edge Ford Flex, GMC Terrain,Honda Civic sedan and coupe, Civic sedan and coupe Si,Lexus RX350 Lincoln MKT Lincoln MKX

Toyota Corolla,Toyota Matrix, Toyota RAV4, Volkswagen Routan

Cadillac Escalade EXT ,Cadillac SRX ,Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Aveo ,Chevrolet HHR ,Chevrolet Silverado and Silverado Hybrid ,Dodge Journey ,Fiat 500 ,Ford Fiesta

Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid ,GMC Sierra, Sierra Hybrid and Sierra Crew Cab ,Honda CR-V Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid Nissan Sentra Nissan Versa Ram 2500/3500/4500/5500

Toyota Tacoma Saab 9-4X Volkswagen Jetta/Jetta

Some of the most reliable cars like the Honda Civic,Toyota Tacoma,Corolla are made in Mexico.

Wow. I didn't know that. Now I'm amaze. I guess we shouldn't judge a country by its personal problems. If they can deliver a good product then that's cool. Plus the only persons that are going to know where the 1 and 3 is the fourm fans because most are gonng to walk in the dealer and just buy with no questions ask.
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I agree with the plant in Spartanburg.. The US is a huge market for BMW so why not also help out the US with jobs during a terrible time.. But the thought of a plant in Mexico makes me sick.. BMW is making a lot of mistakes
I kinda agree, but you can't say that Mexico doesn't need to be helped out with jobs. Europe isn't doing too hot right now either, look at Greece or Spain.
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