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      10-17-2012, 12:26 PM   #67
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So... would you?

The Lexus has been on my mind for a while now. I have never been a fan of Japanese vehicles but this one gets me, can't get it off my mind for some reason. Everyone thinks I'm crazy.

I wanted more torque plus I wanna try out a 4-door for a change.

The thought of how it will never break down gets me too. Are these cars really that reliable? My first beamer needed a new tranny when it had just gotten out of warranty. It cost me around 6k.

I was just curious what other M owners would say.

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Not too crazy about the IS-F but if you're looking for reliability... If its anything like my IS300... you'll drive that thing for ever. I've owned mine for over 8 years, 235k+ miles and I can count the number of issues i've had with 1 hand. If theres one thing Lexus is good at is reliability. Just my experience... subjective nonetheless...
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Yeah I'm just not sure what I want. I really dont like driving the C63, I don't know what it is about that car. I like the Lexus but now I'm thinking it might not be special enough. I might just get a newer e93 to change it up a bit and call it a day lol
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      10-18-2012, 12:29 AM   #69
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Yeah I'm just not sure what I want. I really dont like driving the C63, I don't know what it is about that car. I like the Lexus but now I'm thinking it might not be special enough. I might just get a newer e93 to change it up a bit and call it a day lol
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      10-18-2012, 03:59 PM   #70
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I drove a regular Is300 for a bit. It is in no way can compare to an regular 3 series. The cabin is small, no rear leg room, ride isn't nearly as good as bimmer, car doesn't feel planted to the road as bimmer, and don't even talk about the handling.

I'd like to say that isf cannot touch m3. C63 makes more sense if u want torque and it offers a nice cabin too.

So hell no!
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      10-18-2012, 05:57 PM   #71
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i have a question for those who have driven the IS-F, is it just as smooth as say the IS250?
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      10-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #72
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FWIW the IS-F was overhauled for 2011 and is supposedly a much better car than at its introduction. It matched the M3 at VIR (eight and a half seconds faster than the 08 IS-F!) although no manual available.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...2-class-page-3
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      10-18-2012, 06:40 PM   #73
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No, the IS-F does nothing for me. When I think 4 doors with more torque, the M5 invades my mind. I'm anxious for the F80 release...that requires a little bit of patience though.
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Can't get past that crappy auto that's always hunting for gears. Oh, it's also gawdy. Oh, and the silver CF trim inside is ugly.

It's easy to mod to 400+ WHP though. And it is reliable. There were a handful of valve issues and water pump issues but that's basically it.
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      10-21-2012, 11:31 AM   #75
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I had an IS-250 which is the same body as the IS-F. The car has very thick A, B, & C pillars which created many blind spots for me. I could never rely on my mirrors and always had to turn my head when changing lanes. The front seats seem to be very thick which makes it seem smaller in the rear than the M. As good as the 2012 IS-f is it makes me wonder just how much better the new M3 is going to be. BMW always seems to be a step ahead.

The paint job is about the best I've seen on any car, it's just amazing.
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      10-21-2012, 12:52 PM   #76
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If they could drop the price on the lfa !!! I'd be all over that Lexus
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      10-23-2012, 12:58 AM   #77
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I had BMW before I purchased 2011 ISF will be more than happy to answer any question that you may have. I modded my F with JoeZ intake, exhaust, PPE headers, ECT Hi-Flow cats as well as custom test pipe and AFE air filters, 245/35/19 front 285/30/19 in rear the car currently has 24k and not one single issue so far. It's DD which I use to commute from Westchester County to NYC 5 days week.

I do drive the car aggressively and it's alot of fun, the 2011 received updated suspension settings that have been totally recalibrated. The combination of spring rate revisions and dampers, fitted with new high performance valves in addition to reinforced suspension member connectors and bushes, permit more front-end suspension stroke firming up the rear end. This generates greater traction and stability at high speeds. A byproduct of this revision is car has been given more compliant ride the 08 to 10 had bit of harsh ride for some. Adjustments to the steering power-assist mechanism made for more precise and accurate turn-in as well as greater feedback through the wheel. The LSD was updated as well this changed occurred in 2010 and interior updated where to 2011 ISF such as dash, seats, etc. These changes help it to match M3 (6spd) at VIR some say had it been M3 DCT that F would not have matched the time but that M3 was running on cup series tires at the time while F did it with standard factory skinny ass 225/40 up front and 255/35 rear PS2 so still not bad oh and both cars beat C63 time at VIR.

So if you have any question about pros or cons regarding car or question about tranny, engine, ride quality, exhaust sound, if you would like to see pics of mods done or video clips of exhaust, or videos of runs I've done such heading to Bear Mountain with New York Mustang Club, had blast that evening alot fun. I'll give you guy some real information no bench racing or fanboy shit the F is great car not perfect but great DD car.

I love all kinds of cars and have owned old school muscle cars, retro muscle, JDM imports, euros and now F. I'll provide you with some real world experiencece of driving this car for 2yrs and hopefully give you guys some new infomation since alot of info that is being quoted is from 08 and 09 prior to changes.

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