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      07-21-2012, 08:49 PM   #1
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To Supercharge or not to Supercharge?

You may as well ask yourself the existential question to be or not to be,
for those who know... the answer is a resounding HELL YES!
Pimp your lady, put your kids to work in a sweatshop, sell your
flat-screen TV, become a crack dealer, start gambling high stakes bingo,
camp a busy street corner looking miserable with a sign that says
"will work for supercharger", moonlight as a gay escort...
Do whatever it takes to supercharge your M3 NOW!

It was love on first drive with my M3 and the first year was a magical
romance. M has all the handling qualities, practicality, and smarts I look
for to go the distance, however the sex was always just a little timid
and restrained. Try as I might I couldn't get that red hot Brazilian hooker
who f...ked like a wild tiger in heat out of my brain. Had I known the joys
of 50% more horsepower I would have married M on the spot.
The car feels so much lighter and agile now, the difference is like night
and day. This is what an M3 should be! I can't imagine any enthusiast who
would not absolutely love the transformation. It's so worth the extra $12k
it's not even funny. If your already paying this much for a car you may as
well go all the way. The familiar M3 Cheshire cat grin will erupt into fits
laughter and delight every time you put hammer down. The power comes
on so smooth and linear it's extremely easy to stay connected to the
road.

This is my first M3 and I really had no idea what is possible with a little help
from your tuner friends. I loved the responsiveness and feel of the NA V8
so the thought of adding FI had never really occurred to me. That is until a
chance meeting with a fellow forum member in a red E92. He smoked me
so bad I was like WTF just happened!? Thankfully he was kind enough
to leave a clue in the wake of exhaust and dust, an ESS Tuning sticker
on his window.

I promptly hit the internet and began researching mods which led me to
this forum and all the great information here. After reviewing the options I
decided to go with ESS (they have an R&D shop in my home town) for the
supercharger and called up Roman. He gave me some great advise and was
very helpful in answering my questions. I went with an ESS VT2-600 since
my local fuel is only 91 octane. My experience with ESS has been top
notch, high quality kit with great service and support. I'm several thousand
miles in and could not be happier. My only one small complaint is that my
car now sounds like a fighter jet, oh well!

Hope this helps anyone who might be on the fence about whether to
supercharge or not, just do it already! You will be stoked!

Cheers,

Axis

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red hot Brazilian hooker who f...ked like a wild tiger in heat
Love the analogy! Ok I'm sold.
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been counting pennies, can't wait to be SUPERCHARGED. I feel like I'm missing all the fun.
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How does a supercharger affect the engine/car if you plan to keep it for years (maybe10 years) to come as a DD?
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I just did it this week and you explained every feelings I had after I got my car back. Hit the spot word by word
Night & day
Worth every penny
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This is how an M3 should feel
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How does a supercharger affect the engine/car if you plan to keep it for years (maybe10 years) to come as a DD?
I too would like to know how it affects the engine long term. Anyone out there with high milage who has had ESS SC care to chime in?
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How does a supercharger affect the engine/car if you plan to keep it for years (maybe10 years) to come as a DD?
This was one of my considerations as well. The reliability of ESS kits is
excellent with good track record across many platforms. The E9x
supercharger already having several years under it's belt without major
issues. It actually increases engine efficiency (I get better gas mileage)
although surely it must add some extra wear over the long haul.
I beat the hell out of mine and use it as a DD, plan on keeping it until it dies...

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good luck with the sc
but imo, if you wanna drive a 700hp car, you should get a 700hp car
and the n/a v8 ///M engine is something special, eventho I'm sure it feels good, I won't get one
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good luck with the sc
but imo, if you wanna drive a 700hp car, you should get a 700hp car
and the n/a v8 ///M engine is something special, eventho I'm sure it feels good, I won't get one
Ok so what cars come with 700 HP stock and how much do they cost?
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Ok so what cars come with 700 HP stock and how much do they cost?
Shelby Super snake.. 750 hp. Stock.
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      07-22-2012, 03:19 PM   #13
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What makes the S65 so special to me is the high revs and throttle
responsiveness. These characteristics are maintained with a SC,
there is no lag and it feels like stock but with extra power that fulfills
the potential of the chassis. The car easily handles the extra power
and thrives on it. Test drive one and you'll see what I'm talking about.
The risk/reward/enjoyment ratio for the wear and tear question mark
is well worth it to me. Previously I was always thinking about what
my next car would be, no more!

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been counting pennies, can't wait to be SUPERCHARGED. I feel like I'm missing all the fun.
If you have been "counting the pennies", a supercharger probably isn't the best move for you. Someday, when you want to move on to a different car, you will regret the money you will have spent that gives you no return whatsoever, and may in fact make your car harder to sell.

It is a phenomenal mod, but is best kept for those who can afford to dump big bucks into their car without caring about it.
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Shelby Super snake.. 750 hp. Stock.
That's it? One car? How much does it cost and what's the availability?
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the F12 Berlinetta makes 730 hp...close, maybe people won't mind rounding up. if you can't find the Shelby


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      07-22-2012, 04:23 PM   #17
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the F12 Berlinetta makes 730 hp...close

did you actually moonlight as a gay escort
Speaking of red hot Brazilian hookers... Damn girl!!
Yours for only $300k a night.

Lol, Nope.. just worked my ass off for years and now finally tasting the fruit!

Good point LarThaL about resale value, SC club membership does require some money to burn...
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If you have been "counting the pennies", a supercharger probably isn't the best move for you. Someday, when you want to move on to a different car, you will regret the money you will have spent that gives you no return whatsoever, and may in fact make your car harder to sell.

It is a phenomenal mod, but is best kept for those who can afford to dump big bucks into their car without caring about it.
just a figure of speach my friend; there is nothing wrong with working hard for something you want and believe me I always get what I want and I do understand the whole resale value thing, that is why most people take all mods off thier vehicles and sell them private. All cars depreciate in value so modded or not I never expect a good return as vehicles are not good investments, just enjoy them to the fullest while you can.
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I would love a supercharger but struggle with idea of adding a supercharger to an engine that wasn't designed for it. If the car is going to be kept long term it's something to think about. I would be much more comfortable enhancing an already turbo charged car (like a Porsche turbo).... You may see me add a supercharger someday but I would have to get over this hurdle (plus have an extra $15k jingling in my pocket)
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Ok so what cars come with 700 HP stock and how much do they cost?
I don't know how much they are, but I'm pretty sure that they are madly cheap compared to what we pay to cars here in Turkey...

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It is a phenomenal mod, but is best kept for those who can afford to dump big bucks into their car without caring about it.
Not to mention that your Drivetrain Warranty is probably void and you shouldn't get further DME software updates. That being said I purchased the ESS VT-1 (lower boost) because I wanted extra HP on the track and I plan on keeping my M3 for many years. Time will tell if the S65 w/FI will last. I don't regret my decision and enjoy it tremendously.
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