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07-20-2012, 05:07 PM | #23 |
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My bad. How stupid of me think that you'e smart enough to understand that Congress was controled by the Dems until 2011. With contorl of both houses and the WH, "O" should have been able to do whatever his little heart desired.
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07-20-2012, 05:16 PM | #24 |
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I just corrected your false statement, I didn't know I was supposed to read your mind. Besides, if you were alive and conscious during that time, you know he didn't have the necessary votes to pass healthcare reform, close Guantanamo, or do any number of things. So no, he was not able to pass what he wanted.
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Obamacare just passed itself during that time period I guest..?
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07-21-2012, 12:26 PM | #27 |
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Yeah, keep believing this lie. He did not have a supermajority in the Senate most of the first two years and there were those god aweful blue dog democrats who really should have been republicans blocking everything, so no, he did not have control of both houses for the first two years. But you cons love to spread the lies.
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07-21-2012, 02:12 PM | #28 |
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Healthcare reform took 1 1/2 years to pass, and it was a shell of the original bill. Where the hell were you? Why do I have to summarize major events that happened 2 years ago? And what's with ending a sentence with "...?" What are the dots for? Inquiring minds want to know.
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07-21-2012, 08:59 PM | #30 |
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I'm actually debating with someone who can't differentiate to and too. Why don't you go +1 OldArmy some more, sheep. You just can't handle the fact that me, him, and half the country oppose you and your fellow righties. Try making a point instead of wasting space on stupid personal comments.
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07-21-2012, 11:18 PM | #31 |
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Scotch, I guess that your +1 is speechless two
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07-23-2012, 06:25 PM | #36 |
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Why is the time from 2009 to 2011 discounted as if he needed a supermajority for 100% of the time to be effective? He had it for a few months but besides such, he was able to pass Healthcare reform without a supermajority.
Spending bills only require 50 votes anyway so there's no reason he could not have passed appropriate budgets, tax reforms, or spending bills (outside of Stimulus). Its funny how Bill Clinton was lauded on being able to work with a highly partisan congress (you don't any more partisan than impeachment) to pass Welfare Reform, Tax Cuts, and Spending bills but Obama just can't get anything at all passed by the 'Teabaggers'? I think Democrats give way too much credit to the Republicans and not enough accountability against the President.
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07-24-2012, 12:35 AM | #39 |
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I'm going to make this post in both of the currently active threads as I think they both embody what is wrong with the current political system in the US.
Feel free to blow me off as an outsider, BUT, it is very apparent from someone with an unbiased opinion, that these threads are exactly what is taking the US of A down a scary path. Instead of discussing solutions and what is best for the citizens of America, people get far too caught up in spewing bile towards each other based on whether they are Dem or Rep. Like either party or any individual has all of the right answers and will magically solve all of the problems that society faces. Doesn't anyone see what is wrong with this??? ![]() Virtually every thread in this forum degenerates into name calling and personal/character attacks. Sad really. ![]() |
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Scotch, where are you correcting spelling?
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Oh you mean that thing the GOP has used in record amounts to block any legislation from President Obama? I do seem to remember statements like these:
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term President.” Senator Mitch McConnell Oct 2010
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Rockies,
More than a few of us from the US of A agree whole-heartedly with your assessment. That's why I normally start any of my replies with the statement that I am NON-partisan. I only got a master's degree, so the letters after my name really don't matter. |
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But people can't accept that; they need to paint a false picture, disregarding the recession, and how it's onset and recovery are in ways similar to other recessions; and in other ways different but explainable within the world economic situation. The same people who say that gov't doesn't create jobs blames the gov't for not creating jobs. And we should reduce tax revenue and reduce the deficit. And this can all be done by reducing spending, but they don't want to touch 90% of our spending budget. And everybody's pointing fingers about outsourcing, which has been a worldwide phenomena going on for decades. We should be able to agree on most of this, but certainly not with the attitude of those who start all of these propaganda-titled threads. |
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07-24-2012, 03:13 PM | #44 |
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Then bite the bullet and start a positive non-propaganda thread.
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