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      05-29-2014, 12:04 PM   #419
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Everyone and every company makes mistakes. Mistakes being honest mistakes, not lies. The key factor is how you handle your mistakes. People and companies with high integrity take ownership for their mistakes and fix them - making things right with their customer because it's the right thing to do even if it costs a lot of money to do so.

The examples of dishonesty and fixing mistakes only after the customer goes public are enough for me to never want to do business with ADV1. These aren't honest, whoops! Sort of mistakes. These are rooted in poor business and moral practices. For example, I would have respect for them if they would have said "we don't have TUV approval but here are some factual reasons why you should still buy our product". Just because something isn't TUV approved that doesn't mean it isn't high quality. Instead they chose to lie about it under pressure... Moral, honest people don't do those sorts of things, why do business with somebody like that? Especially given the owner's history of ripping off a bunch of customers when he was in charge of 360 forged.

There are so many reputable companies out there that I would much rather reward with my business. I have had great experiences with HRE and BBS. I have never had to test Advan or Volk since I haven't had any issues with their products.
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      05-31-2014, 11:28 AM   #420
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Yeah, even HRE has problem also many years ago.
My ADV1 wheels last time are perfect and they're making a new set for my F430, should be done within 2 weeks

And if they're that bad, howcome their business has been expanding successfully all over the world?
They're making new sets every day, check it out here:
http://www.luxury4play.com/wheels-ti...beyond-44.html
Just remember, it's the same A-holes who ran 360 Forged and they were growing at an explosive rate, but they ripped off MANY people and ran with their money. Then people started finding out the wheels are pealing a few years later. Just because a business is growing, doesn't mean they make a quality wheel. The clientele they sell too are not going to spend the time to learn about wheels. They're definitely more about looks and the bling. Yes, it's a generalization, but it does seem to stand up more for the M5 and above crowd than the less expensive cars.

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Doesn't seem to stop - M5 person putting 26" ADV.1s on an escalade

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=989605
Tell me about it. I got the ban stick on the M5 forum because I got into it with members there when I was trying to WARN them about the dangers of ADV.
They seem to equate price and doing good business to quality. It's a different mentality up there. They were making personal attacks and I get the ban stick because they can't handle the truth!!???
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Just remember, it's the same A-holes who ran 360 Forged and they were growing at an explosive rate, but they ripped off MANY people and ran with their money. Then people started finding out the wheels are pealing a few years later. Just because a business is growing, doesn't mean they make a quality wheel. The clientele they sell too are not going to spend the time to learn about wheels. They're definitely more about looks and the bling. Yes, it's a generalization, but it does seem to stand up more for the M5 and above crowd than the less expensive cars.



Tell me about it. I got the ban stick on the M5 forum because I got into it with members there when I was trying to WARN them about the dangers of ADV.
They seem to equate price and doing good business to quality. It's a different mentality up there. They were making personal attacks and I get the ban stick because they can't handle the truth!!???
Bashing paid sponsors is a no no most likely.
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Yeah, even HRE has problem also many years ago.
My ADV1 wheels last time are perfect and they're making a new set for my F430, should be done within 2 weeks

And if they're that bad, howcome their business has been expanding successfully all over the world?
They're making new sets every day, check it out here:
http://www.luxury4play.com/wheels-ti...beyond-44.html


You bought an f430 and went with ADV. Why? You like liars?
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YouTube ADV.1 and look at their 2012 video, jodan and other presidents are in the vid talking about growth and you can actually see what their factory looks like. Judge for yourself.
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YouTube ADV.1 and look at their 2012 video, jodan and other presidents are in the vid talking about growth and you can actually see what their factory looks like. Judge for yourself.
Again, they don't have a factory. They spend more on graphics that reflect an engineering process than manufacturing quality components, as it is contracted out.

Bottom line, buying ADV1 is the surest way to throw out money. Not gonna argue with you as you do it, however you'll realize just how sure of a poor purchase it was when you try and sell them later, as no one will want them for anything above the price of VMRs.
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      06-23-2014, 11:53 AM   #426
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Again, they don't have a factory. They spend more on graphics that reflect an engineering process than manufacturing quality components, as it is contracted out.

Bottom line, buying ADV1 is the surest way to throw out money. Not gonna argue with you as you do it, however you'll realize just how sure of a poor purchase it was when you try and sell them later, as no one will want them for anything above the price of VMRs.
do you have any personal experience with the poor quality? or have you just seen a few forum threads about it and basically that made your mind for you? I'm just curious.

This TT 2R Gallardo built by Trust with 1700hp+ is on ADV1 and plenty of other Gallardos and GTRs at TX2k going in insane speed: http://www.luxury4play.com/lamborghi...white-red.html

That car is worth $300k+ and those aren't his first ADV1 wheels and he has a crazy stable of cars. He's trusting his life that the quality of ADV1 wheels will be able to hold with that much power. He had HRE's before the ADV1 on his Gallardo as well.

I'm just saying, I seen so many 1000+ HP cars with ADV1 and people are just bringing up like a couple of bad threads from years ago. Just blindly saying a product sucks, does good for no one.
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      06-23-2014, 12:40 PM   #427
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You bought an f430 and went with ADV. Why? You like liars?
My previous ADV.1 wheels were perfect, same as my friend's with ADV.1 wheels.
All are actual experience btw and actual owners.

Most people just hate something nice that they couldn't afford. They usually just say anything like this is overpriced and junk.
I can't afford a Richard Mille watch, it's a very nice piece but I don't hate it.
I think my AP watch is overpriced, but I love it even though a Casio watch or my iPhone can do the same thing or better.
Same with my wife's $10K Hermes purse etc, they're overpriced but I don't hate them.

You prob don't know me, if for some reason I find something wrong with my ADV.1 wheels, for sure it will be all over social media, forums, jalopnik etc.
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My previous ADV.1 wheels were perfect, same as my friend's with ADV.1 wheels.
All are actual experience btw and actual owners.

Most people just hate something nice that they couldn't afford. They usually just say anything like this is overpriced and junk.
I can't afford a Richard Mille watch, it's a very nice piece but I don't hate it.
I think my AP watch is overpriced, but I love it even though a Casio watch or my iPhone can do the same thing or better.
Same with my wife's $10K Hermes purse etc, they're overpriced but I don't hate them.

You prob don't know me, if for some reason I find something wrong with my ADV.1 wheels, for sure it will be all over social media, forums, jalopnik etc.
The only thing I got out of that was that your wife has a $10k purse.
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The only thing I got out of that was that your wife has a $10k purse.
Yup, just in case you don't know, $5K-plus purses are not unheard nowadays.
It doesn't surprise me at all some people buy $1K Balmain jeans, couple hundred dollars designer shirt, $1K Exoticare floormats, $20K Vertu phone, $5K for a small 30" Scud CF splitter, $200 lightbulb etc as long as they have the means and feel good about it.
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I noticed a lot of posts (including mine) got deleted from this thread.
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I don't know why everyone bashes ADV1
Not sure if you guys follow Pertplus on Instagram... But he just ordered a set of ADV's for his car. This is the same guy that had a million sets of HRE and vowed to use nothing else. I am not saying anything bad about him so you guys don't take it the wrong way. All I'm saying is he spoke bad about them and is giving them a chance to make right. He said it himself, if they mess up, then lesson learned. But he's giving them a chance.

I know Jordan personally and also had a set on my E46 M3. Many people in this thread have never had any direct dealings with the company, but are quick to jump on the hate bandwagon. They are just going with the masses and saying the same thing. Like any business, there comes ups and downs. Were things dealt with incorrectly in the past. Yes I will agree. But ADV.1 has done what they could to make right and taking things in a different direction. I know it takes a long time to build back your reputation once it was tainted, but it is possible.
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Same as SW new Aventador, he's running ADV.1, Josh Cartu (race car driver) Speciale and countless other Ferraris & Lambos.
If you don't know SW, just google: SW twin turbo
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Same as SW new Aventador, he's running ADV.1, Josh Cartu (race car driver) Speciale and countless other Ferraris & Lambos.
If you don't know SW, just google: SW twin turbo
Exactly. He was diehard HRE. Whats up Ronnie, love the new car. When I saw the new wheels you were putting on it I flipped. Car looks nothing short of amazing. Time to update that Sig pic
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Goes to show that when one's reputation is tarnished, it's hard to regain peoples trust, even years later. It's a shame, because ADV makes some great looking wheels.
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Same as SW new Aventador, he's running ADV.1, Josh Cartu (race car driver) Speciale and countless other Ferraris & Lambos.
If you don't know SW, just google: SW twin turbo
He's right up the street from me. And just b/c he does something, doesn't mean I will. I don't follow other people, I make my own path.
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Exactly. He was diehard HRE. Whats up Ronnie, love the new car. When I saw the new wheels you were putting on it I flipped. Car looks nothing short of amazing. Time to update that Sig pic
Thanks! I'm going to do some real photoshoots when the car is done 100%
My ADV.1 wheels look sick (and super light too)






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Again, they don't have a factory. They spend more on graphics that reflect an engineering process than manufacturing quality components, as it is contracted out.

Bottom line, buying ADV1 is the surest way to throw out money. Not gonna argue with you as you do it, however you'll realize just how sure of a poor purchase it was when you try and sell them later, as no one will want them for anything above the price of VMRs.
Can VMR wheels make 20x12 weighing only 21.4 lbs for $1399/set? LOL
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It doesn't matter who is running them on their cars, money doesn't buy intelligence. Many of those people may not participate in forums or know about their sordid past.
Have you seen the quality of the wheels on this thread? Have you read the stories? Have you seen how these guys handled the entire situation with the lies, fake TUV paperwork, tapdancing shenanigans and other random acts? They are deceptive. I tell everyone to NOT buy ADV wheels because of this history. They are good salesmen; this is why their wheels (Which are really nice looking) continue to appear on all these cars.
When I start seeing ADV on F1/DTM/ANY true actual track racecar and not just pretty Aventadors and F430s, then we will know they have actually changed their quality control. In the meantime, they are great for static displays. Very photogenic!
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Thos extra holes are for weight savings... really.

ADV has really tapped the rich folks who really know nothing about wheels.
More money than brains... and yes, I could easily afford a set or two of ADV's, but why the hell would I do that??

In the other thread that was not meant to bash any particular company, but a warning to others about shady wheel companies.
ADV jumped in and claimed they're TUV, then they BLATANLY LIED and said they couldn' post people over company's would copy their certificate.
HRE comes along and posts all their TUV certifications for all to copy.

A few months later, ADV makes a big deal about being TUV certified "now" on their website, but when people start to dig, they don't see any company associated with their "certification."

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