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      07-07-2012, 10:11 AM   #1
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BMW Frozen Paint Explained and Care / Maintenance Guide by DRIVE CLEAN

Interesting video on taking care of frozen paint.

And here's the official BMW released video on frozen paint care and maintenance - http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=677929

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This week on DRIVE CLEAN, we take a tour of BMW's North American Headquarters in Woodcliff Lake New Jersey to discuss their "Frozen" matte paint and to identity how it differs from traditional clear-coat finishes. Matthew Russell, president of the M-car and Alpina division's for north America, gives us a tour of the facility and discusses how BMW came to create their new "Frozen" paint scheme (shown on BMW's M3 with Frozen Monte Carlo Blue). BMW's head of body-and-paint technical training manager, Walter Malec, also discusses matte-paint technology and repairs. And as expected, we'll also review how to best clean and care for matte finishes.
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      07-08-2012, 04:26 PM   #2
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Really nice. Thanks for posting the info.
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      07-08-2012, 04:40 PM   #3
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So basically, it's impossible to repair a small scratch unless repainting the panel, and almost impossible to obtain the same finish if repainted, because any variance in temperature and hardener selection leads to a different finish.

I feel sorry for the people falling for this frozen paint thing. Wrapping the car in a matte finish foil is so much better, if the matte effect is really needed.
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      07-08-2012, 04:42 PM   #4
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looks like too much maintenance honestly. agree with above, just wrap it.
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      07-08-2012, 04:45 PM   #5
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Thanks for the video. All the more reason to avoid this paint for me.
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      07-08-2012, 05:21 PM   #6
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I have a frozen silver M3 and it's really not complicated to maintain. If you are used to cleaning or detailing your car properly, it doesn't make any difference
Totally worth it for me, I would do it again in a heart beat

Oh and cool vid :-)
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      07-08-2012, 05:34 PM   #7
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The paintwork is actually very easy to maintain. It's easier to maintain than "normal" glass paintwork.

Swissvax (Opaque) makes all the products you need.. shampoo, pre-cleaner spray, wax, quick detail spray, etc.

It's a lot less work than cleaning a gloss car. Hard to explain exactly why unless you own one. Frozen Grey never looks dirty.. it's a great color.

One issue with the frozen paintwork though. If you need anything repainted, it is very difficult to get the new paint to match the factory paint.
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      07-08-2012, 05:43 PM   #8
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Agreed with Avinch. I'm using Swissvax as well, great products
Never looks dirty, no water marks, no holograms...
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      07-08-2012, 06:09 PM   #9
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Unless your car is a garage queen, I'd definately avoid matte finish at all cost. Personally, I don't think it even look all that good. Looks like paint from a car that has been sitting in the sun for 10 years.
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So let me get this straight. Frozen paint costs more than regular paint, if you get a scratch you have to repaint the entire panel, if you repaint a panel it won't match the rest of the car, you can't touch up stone chips or imperfections, if you polish it too hard or use the wrong products you ruin the panel, and again forcing you to repaint the panel, which means you have to repaint the entire car for it to match.....

Where would I got to get my Z4M sprayed in frozen paint!!!
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      07-08-2012, 06:23 PM   #11
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      07-08-2012, 08:57 PM   #12
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Love the frozen paint appearance...Only question I have is durability and repairability?

How do they repair a scratch or ding??
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      07-08-2012, 09:07 PM   #13
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Unless your car is a garage queen, I'd definately avoid matte finish at all cost. Personally, I don't think it even look all that good. Looks like paint from a car that has been sitting in the sun for 10 years.
+1. The only way I would do it would be a super short term lease. Even then, it just doesn't appeal to me, but I do appreciate that others love it's individuality. Each to their own!
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Cool video, thanks for posting.

It sounds like the biggest PITA to maintain, fortunately I don't like the frozen look at all.
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Albeit the cool paint scheme to have now, just imagine what it will look like 5+ years from now after everyday wear and tear (by the average owner on a daily driver). Look to budget for a new paint job. This will also definitely hurt resale value down the road.
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So basically, it's impossible to repair a small scratch unless repainting the panel, and almost impossible to obtain the same finish if repainted, because any variance in temperature and hardener selection leads to a different finish.

I feel sorry for the people falling for this frozen paint thing. Wrapping the car in a matte finish foil is so much better, if the matte effect is really needed.
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      07-08-2012, 10:28 PM   #17
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Love the frozen paint appearance...Only question I have is durability and repairability?

How do they repair a scratch or ding??
So clearly you didn't watch the video because that's what the entire thing was about...
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Even Jet Black paint repairs require painting the entire panel because it can't be faded. However, it is easier to get a match.
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It's different and a lot of people will like it for that. I don't think it will ever be for me because I'd feel like I have to baby the car too much.
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Its another way for bmw to charge more.
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      07-09-2012, 01:22 AM   #21
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very interesting paint finish!
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      07-09-2012, 02:34 AM   #22
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Not my cup of tea since the paint has that half-assed look.

A lot of people will think that the car is still in primer and needs a clear coat.
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