This paint is so weak its killing me

Invadermoose · 06-29-2012, 07:52 PM

Bought an M3 2 weeks ago and I've been daily driving it.

So far I've only had one other person in it, and i've only touched the drivers door handle. There's rock chips on the front bumper, 2 on the hood, 2 scratches on the roof, 2 scratches on the bumper, a scratch on the passengers door handle, and swirls from the dealership. and these arent just line scratches, i mean it looks like someone hit it almost. The paint is ruffled and you can see metal

I'm paying a guy $200 to do a paint correction, and then I guess I'll try and get all these deep scratches fixed.

I've NEVER had a rock chip on any other car before, but this one is just horrible. The paint must be incredibly thin. Anyone know a place near sarasota or tampa or anywhere on floridas west coast who can fix all these chipsa nd scratches?

py0413 · 06-29-2012, 07:54 PM

get use to it and wait until you get rock chips on the wind shield. I have so many of them all over the car. You can't avoid them unless maybe you clear bra it.

Invadermoose · 06-29-2012, 07:56 PM

So it isnt just where I live? The paint is really this fragile..

Stainless 45 · 06-29-2012, 08:48 PM

Get used to it. Order an OEM touch up paint bottle and dab it in the chips.

///M Ryder · 06-29-2012, 09:09 PM

Wait until you hit the track

................Phil

PhillyNate · 06-29-2012, 09:15 PM

I'm sure there is some aesthetic advantage to soft paint but damn if I know what it is. BMW's definitely have the softest paint of any car I've ever owned.

Alpha///M · 06-29-2012, 09:27 PM

I hear u bro. Use ur camaro as DD. Clear bra works better than it looks. You don't have too many options unless you tell everyone to get off the road when your driving the M!

KIS · 06-29-2012, 09:37 PM

The worst is when you find that the bird droppings that you immediately cleaned off have already etched the paint.

doc19 · 06-29-2012, 09:40 PM

Yeah - I've given up... unless you clear bra the entire car or wrap the car you are going to have issues...

Invadermoose · 06-29-2012, 09:44 PM

Man if I knew this I would've reconsidered buying the car.. I mean it drives great and everything, but If by the end of the year I'm going to have 100 spots on it where you can see the metal, then damn.

Going with my friend to Reeves tomorrow since hes looking at aston martins, I might look into a Maserati GT while I'm there..

CrusherM3 · 06-29-2012, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyNate

I'm sure there is some aesthetic advantage to soft paint but damn if I know what it is. BMW's definitely have the softest paint of any car I've ever owned.

BMW used to use an acrylic powder clear coat, but they switched. Not sure what they are using these days.

CBS · 06-29-2012, 09:49 PM

This is my first car that I completely wrapped and I will never buy a new car without it again.

I am now repainting my 5 and wrapping it next.

Invadermoose · 06-29-2012, 10:12 PM

How much is a good wrap job? This is just unacceptable. I've owned the car or 2 weeks, but I've maybe been behind the wheel for 25 hours. I just counted 34 chips and scratches on the car. I dont even want to imagine what it's going to look like in a month. I mean, I had plans to modify the car a bit and put some wheels on it and whatever, but if it's going to look like a beat up civic because of all the holes in the paint, whats the point.

FrankThomas · 06-29-2012, 10:41 PM

You should be more frightened of the guy who is doing a "paint correction" for $200.

KIS · 06-29-2012, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invadermoose

Man if I knew this I would've reconsidered buying the car.. I mean it drives great and everything, but If by the end of the year I'm going to have 100 spots on it where you can see the metal, then damn.

Going with my friend to Reeves tomorrow since hes looking at aston martins, I might look into a Maserati GT while I'm there..

While the M3 paint is admittedly soft the car is great otherwise. The Maserati on the other hand is far from great.

Invadermoose · 06-29-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ftconstruct

You should be more frightened of the guy who is doing a "paint correction" for $200.

I've known him for years. I think I'll be okay.

radiantm3 · 06-29-2012, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ftconstruct

You should be more frightened of the guy who is doing a "paint correction" for $200.

+1

sycd · 06-29-2012, 10:50 PM

I'm going to guess we all go through this at the beginning for a month or two. After a while you don't count the chips and just enjoy the dip. No car is going to stay perfect if you drive it.

Adobong_M · 06-29-2012, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invadermoose

Bought an M3 2 weeks ago and I've been daily driving it.

So far I've only had one other person in it, and i've only touched the drivers door handle. There's rock chips on the front bumper, 2 on the hood, 2 scratches on the roof, 2 scratches on the bumper, a scratch on the passengers door handle, and swirls from the dealership. and these arent just line scratches, i mean it looks like someone hit it almost. The paint is ruffled and you can see metal

I'm paying a guy $200 to do a paint correction, and then I guess I'll try and get all these deep scratches fixed.

I've NEVER had a rock chip on any other car before, but this one is just horrible. The paint must be incredibly thin. Anyone know a place near sarasota or tampa or anywhere on floridas west coast who can fix all these chipsa nd scratches?

Same thing here, after picking up the car fresh from the dealer when I got home there's a freakin chip on the bumper. Paint coat is so thin! Considering I drove it in Germany for almost 500 miles and never had a chip there.

dom_cmh · 06-29-2012, 11:04 PM

Didn't I read on here somewhere that this is a result of the new water-based paint being used rather than oil based? If so thank your EPA and government once again.

mpower4life · 06-29-2012, 11:29 PM

could also be that the dealer did a quick touch up and used fillers to hide all the defects. Have you washed it since you've had it?

chris719 · 06-29-2012, 11:44 PM

I have had 2 Nissan / Infiniti cars and a Mazda. Their paint quality is so bad it makes you appreciate BMW paint even though it could be better.

06-29-2012, 07:52 PM	#1
Invadermoose Private First Class Drives: camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: florida Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	This paint is so weak its killing me Bought an M3 2 weeks ago and I've been daily driving it. So far I've only had one other person in it, and i've only touched the drivers door handle. There's rock chips on the front bumper, 2 on the hood, 2 scratches on the roof, 2 scratches on the bumper, a scratch on the passengers door handle, and swirls from the dealership. and these arent just line scratches, i mean it looks like someone hit it almost. The paint is ruffled and you can see metal I'm paying a guy $200 to do a paint correction, and then I guess I'll try and get all these deep scratches fixed. I've NEVER had a rock chip on any other car before, but this one is just horrible. The paint must be incredibly thin. Anyone know a place near sarasota or tampa or anywhere on floridas west coast who can fix all these chipsa nd scratches?
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06-29-2012, 07:54 PM	#2
py0413 Captain Drives: 2012 M5 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC Posts: 929 iTrader: (2)	get use to it and wait until you get rock chips on the wind shield. I have so many of them all over the car. You can't avoid them unless maybe you clear bra it. __________________ Must stop eating..............

06-29-2012, 08:48 PM	#4
Stainless 45 First Lieutenant Drives: Last of the V-8 Interceptors Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 381 iTrader: (0)	Get used to it. Order an OEM touch up paint bottle and dab it in the chips. __________________ 2011.5 LeMans Blue e92 DCT, ZCP, European Delivery. Black Edition Grilles, No Keyhole or Reflectors, Rear Fogs Enabled, Encore Innovation Exhaust, LUX Angel Eyes. "Last of the V-8 Interceptors, a real piece of history..."

06-29-2012, 09:09 PM	#5
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06-29-2012, 09:15 PM	#6
PhillyNate BMWCCA #405750 Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,419 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW E92 M3 [0.00]	I'm sure there is some aesthetic advantage to soft paint but damn if I know what it is. BMW's definitely have the softest paint of any car I've ever owned. __________________ "what I'm driving here...is an ending." Jeremy Clarkson 2011 Alpine White BMW M3 6mt ZCP Coupe 2008 Alpine White BMW 328i 6mt Coupe (retired 06/21/11)

06-29-2012, 07:56 PM	#3
Invadermoose Private First Class Drives: camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: florida Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	So it isnt just where I live? The paint is really this fragile..

06-29-2012, 09:27 PM	#7
Alpha///M Scrappy Coco Drives: 2012 M3 AW ZCP Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 191 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW M3 [0.00]	I hear u bro. Use ur camaro as DD. Clear bra works better than it looks. You don't have too many options unless you tell everyone to get off the road when your driving the M! __________________ Alpha///M Full Challenge Exhaust-ESS Stage 2 Tune-Mode Carbon.

06-29-2012, 09:37 PM	#8
KIS Lieutenant Drives: 2011 M3 Coupe Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	The worst is when you find that the bird droppings that you immediately cleaned off have already etched the paint.

06-29-2012, 09:40 PM	#9
doc19 Private First Class Drives: 2011 e90 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 199 iTrader: (0)	Yeah - I've given up... unless you clear bra the entire car or wrap the car you are going to have issues... __________________ "This is like having a house-cat that’s a bengal tiger." - Todd Deeken, everydaydriver.com, on owning an e90 m3.

06-29-2012, 09:44 PM	#10
Invadermoose Private First Class Drives: camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: florida Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	Man if I knew this I would've reconsidered buying the car.. I mean it drives great and everything, but If by the end of the year I'm going to have 100 spots on it where you can see the metal, then damn. Going with my friend to Reeves tomorrow since hes looking at aston martins, I might look into a Maserati GT while I'm there..

06-29-2012, 09:49 PM	#12
CBS Captain Drives: E90 M3 - E60 528xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Posts: 870 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X3 [0.00] 2011 BMW M3 E90 [4.85] 2009 BMW 528xi [0.00] 2008 BMW 328xi [0.00]	This is my first car that I completely wrapped and I will never buy a new car without it again. I am now repainting my 5 and wrapping it next. __________________ ESS VT-1 550 \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Fall Line Half Cage \| RaceTech 4009W \| 6 pt Harness \| Rear Seat Delete \| Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs \| 900/650 Hyperco Springs \| RD Sport Sway Bars \| Brembo 380 BBK \| GC Camber Plates \| Michelin Cups \| GTS Black Wheels \| Eisenmann Sport \| Stack Gauges \| Painted Challenge Front Lip \| Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler \| Xpel Ultimate Film \| LuxAngelEyes

06-29-2012, 10:12 PM	#13
Invadermoose Private First Class Drives: camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: florida Posts: 142 iTrader: (0)	How much is a good wrap job? This is just unacceptable. I've owned the car or 2 weeks, but I've maybe been behind the wheel for 25 hours. I just counted 34 chips and scratches on the car. I dont even want to imagine what it's going to look like in a month. I mean, I had plans to modify the car a bit and put some wheels on it and whatever, but if it's going to look like a beat up civic because of all the holes in the paint, whats the point.

06-29-2012, 10:41 PM	#14
FrankThomas Formerly Known As ftconstruct Drives: 12 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 471 iTrader: (8)	You should be more frightened of the guy who is doing a "paint correction" for $200. __________________ 2012 E92 M3 6MT/Alpine White/Black Novillo/Competition Pk/Premium Pk/EPS/Heated Seats/BMW Apps/Corsa Exhaust

06-29-2012, 10:50 PM	#18
sycd First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 396 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X5 xDrive50i [0.00] 2012 BMW M3 [E92] [0.00]	I'm going to guess we all go through this at the beginning for a month or two. After a while you don't count the chips and just enjoy the dip. No car is going to stay perfect if you drive it. __________________ 2013 Mini Cooper S Hardtop \| Kite Blue \| 6spd Manual \| Factory JCW Exterior Pkg 2013 X5 xDrive50i \| Carbon Black \| M Sport + M Perf, 333M Wheels Sold: 2012 E92 M3 \| Jet Black, Fox Red/Black \| DCT, ZCP

06-29-2012, 11:04 PM	#20
dom_cmh Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 297 iTrader: (1)	Didn't I read on here somewhere that this is a result of the new water-based paint being used rather than oil based? If so thank your EPA and government once again. __________________ 2008 E90 M3\| Sparkling Graphite \| Fox Red \| 6MT \| PDC \| Premium Package \| Tech Package \| Sat Radio \| Moonroof \| 19" wheels \| Tint \| Illuminated ZHP Knob \| Increased Clutch Stop \| Black Chrome "Edition" Grills

06-29-2012, 11:29 PM	#21
mpower4life Private Drives: E36 Avus Blue M3 / E39 M5 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 84 iTrader: (0)	could also be that the dealer did a quick touch up and used fillers to hide all the defects. Have you washed it since you've had it? __________________ BMW: THE ATHLETE IN A SUIT

06-29-2012, 11:44 PM	#22
chris719 Second Lieutenant Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 267 iTrader: (0)	I have had 2 Nissan / Infiniti cars and a Mazda. Their paint quality is so bad it makes you appreciate BMW paint even though it could be better.

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