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      07-07-2007, 08:54 PM   #1
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M3 11 miles per gallon.

I know the M3 was ran very hard on these short tests but all the driving wasn't on the track, some of it was on the roads near the track. To get 11 mpg is awful whether it is a Ferrari F430 or a Viper. The Z06 and Clk 63 Black Series can get 15+ miles per gallon driven hard and they pack 505 hp/470lbs torque and 500 hp/465lbs or torque and do 0 - 60 in 3.6 and 4 seconds respectively. In addition, the Black Series weighs in at whopping 3920 lbs. To make matters worse, the M3 has much less horsepower and less than 300lbs of torque. It will be doing very well if it can do 0-60 in 4.4 with DCT. One also must rember M3's 4 liter V8 has the latest technology . It's nice to have high rpm race engines in production cars and nobody does it better than BMW M except for Ferrari. I don't mind getting 12 miles to the gallon if I have close to 450+ horsepower on tap and well over 300 lbs of torque. I do mind if I have less than 450 horsepower and less than 300lbs of torque and the car runs 0-60 in the mid 4s. Isn't BMW's new slogin for the e92 M3 have something to do with efficient dynamics? Just a thought.
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      07-07-2007, 08:57 PM   #2
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A z06 will not, and I repeat, will not get 15 miles per gallon driven hard. Where are you getting your numbers?!?! My friend has a 2007 c6. We went out racing one night, we drove 45 minutes to the race and 45 minutes back. He gets on it every now and then, and he raced obviously when we got there. His average miles per gallon for that trip was 16. The car was only driven hard maybe 5-10 minutes out of 1 and 1/2 hours.
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A z06 will not, and I repeat, will not get 15 miles per gallon driven hard. Where are you getting your numbers?!?! My friend has a 2007 c6. We went out racing one night, we drove 45 minutes to the race and 45 minutes back. He gets on it every now and then, and he raced obviously when we got there. His average miles per gallon for that trip was 16. The car was only driven hard maybe 5-10 minutes out of 1 and 1/2 hours.
Then he needs to get his car tuned. I average about 22-23 mpg on about 50/50 city v.highway and I get on it hard more than once a day.
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      07-07-2007, 09:11 PM   #4
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A z06 will not, and I repeat, will not get 15 miles per gallon driven hard. Where are you getting your numbers?!?! My friend has a 2007 c6. We went out racing one night, we drove 45 minutes to the race and 45 minutes back. He gets on it every now and then, and he raced obviously when we got there. His average miles per gallon for that trip was 16. The car was only driven hard maybe 5-10 minutes out of 1 and 1/2 hours.
Point taken. 15+ may be overly optimistic, but again maybe 4.4 0-60 is overly optimistic for the M3. What doesn't change is the disparity of mileage for an underpowered M3 in comparison to higher performing cars.
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who cares about mileage?

if you want better gas mileage, buy a slower car

my Z4 3.0 only gets 11 mpg when on the racetrack, but it gets 30 on the freeway
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is it confirmed that the M3 gets 11MPG? Is this city driving or total average?
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      07-07-2007, 09:24 PM   #7
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who cares about mileage?

if you want better gas mileage, buy a slower car

my Z4 3.0 only gets 11 mpg when on the racetrack, but it gets 30 on the freeway
Maybe I will buy a faster car to get better mileage.
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This whole thread is ridiculous. If you can't afford gas, then maybe you shouldn't be buying a 70K car?
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is it confirmed that the M3 gets 11MPG? Is this city driving or total average?

He got it from the Pistonheads review...Though a bit out of context.

"So, the new M3 is a good car – a really good car. Its talents when viewed purely objectively make a formidable package. It’s more comfortable than the old car: rides better, has more room inside and is kitted out with the latest tech available – at a cost. Apart from a worrying thirst – test cars were returning around 11mpg according to their trip computers, although they were driven hard – the new V8 is smooth, refined and perfectly suited to everyday use, yet with crushing reserves of performance."

Drive any car hard and you'll get crappy mileage.

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This whole thread is ridiculous. If you can't afford gas, then maybe you shouldn't be buying a 70K car?
Doesnt have to be a 70k car as price of car does not determine gas mileage. I see it like this, If you cant afford fuel you sure as heck cant afford insurance. So it would be actually no car.
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This whole thread is ridiculous. If you can't afford gas, then maybe you shouldn't be buying a 70K car?
So this is all you got for a response, speaking of ridiculous. Maybe you underestimate what I can and can't afford.
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This whole thread is ridiculous. If you can't afford gas, then maybe you shouldn't be buying a 70K car?
It might have been ridiculous if BMW had not been yakking notstop about "efficient dynamics" for the past however many months...
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I know the M3 was ran very hard on these short tests but all the driving wasn't on the track, some of it was on the roads near the track. To get 11 mpg is awful whether it is a Ferrari F430 or a Viper. The Z06 and Clk 63 Black Series can get 15+ miles per gallon driven hard and they pack 505 hp/470lbs torque and 500 hp/465lbs or torque and do 0 - 60 in 3.6 and 4 seconds respectively. In addition, the Black Series weighs in at whopping 3920 lbs. To make matters worse, the M3 has much less horsepower and less than 300lbs of torque. It will be doing very well if it can do 0-60 in 4.4 with DCT. One also must rember M3's 4 liter V8 has the latest technology . It's nice to have high rpm race engines in production cars and nobody does it better than BMW M except for Ferrari. I don't mind getting 12 miles to the gallon if I have close to 450+ horsepower on tap and well over 300 lbs of torque. I do mind if I have less than 450 horsepower and less than 300lbs of torque and the car runs 0-60 in the mid 4s. Isn't BMW's new slogin for the e92 M3 have something to do with efficient dynamics? Just a thought.

HAHAHA......you guys have NO idea how bad fuel economy is on this type of engine. The M5 / M6 and now the M3 share the same architecture of high revs / low torque......

I get 8-9 mpg farting around in the M6, the 11 mpg for the M3 sounds about right driving it hard.

Want fuel economy? Go buy a TDI Golf......
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      07-08-2007, 01:58 AM   #13
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So this is all you got for a response, speaking of ridiculous. Maybe you underestimate what I can and can't afford.
What kind of response do you want? Want me to give the EPA estimates for the new m3??? There's no literature out on the kind of mileage the car gets so I'm not sure what you're looking for. But if you're complaining about gas mileage on a performance car, then I don't think I'm underestimating what you can and can't afford. If you're such a baller, why don't you buy the m3, and get a civic hybrid for your daily driver.
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If the below formula is correct then M3 might have a gas guzzler tax.... argh

http://suvs.about.com/od/fueleconomy...gasguzzler.htm
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This IS ridiculous... its 11mpg when driving hard which isnt bad for a V8 when you are flogging it. Hell I dont think I get much better than 11mpg when I am flogging my E36 M3....

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Too bad it does not have FSI... but that might be reserved for the M5 V10's revision...

But anyway fuel consumption for me is not a concern for getting the M3.
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I have to agree that much of this thread is pretty ridiculous. Under the right circumstances, almost any car can get poor mileage. I drive an E90 330i and have gotten highway milage as high as 32mpg.

However, last week I got stuck in July 4th weekend traffic in Manhattan and I got 12.2mpg. Granted, I spent 4 hours trying to drive 12 miles!
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If the below formula is correct then M3 might have a gas guzzler tax.... argh

http://suvs.about.com/od/fueleconomy...gasguzzler.htm
the old one had about 1000-1500 gas guzzler tax, and it got better mileage than this one
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A z06 will not, and I repeat, will not get 15 miles per gallon driven hard. Where are you getting your numbers?!?! My friend has a 2007 c6. We went out racing one night, we drove 45 minutes to the race and 45 minutes back. He gets on it every now and then, and he raced obviously when we got there. His average miles per gallon for that trip was 16. The car was only driven hard maybe 5-10 minutes out of 1 and 1/2 hours.
My Buddy gets over 27mpg on the highway in his Z06 and his is modded.
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My Buddy gets over 27mpg on the highway in his Z06 and his is modded.
I guess many of you are missing the point. Driving down the highway, or going to work, is much different than testing a brand new car for a magazine or racing it. In my opinion, 11mpg isn't that bad, I bet they were beating the hell out of the car the entire time.
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I get 8 mpg in my E46 M3 when I track it.

11 does not sound bad by that standard.

In normal use I get a little over 20 mpg in mixed driving.
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Trust me - you will not see anywhere near 11mpg out of a C6 Z06 on a road course... I'm usually somewhere in the 6-8mpg range with mine.
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