Castrol TWS

gatorfast · 09-29-2012, 01:34 PM

Just picked up a few liters at the dealership as I was getting a low engine oil warning. I asked for the 10w-60 M oil and the bottles I received look different than they used to. It says its "Castrol Edge" 10w-60 and says on the back it's for BMW M cars. I remember the bottle saying TWS and not edge. The part # is 83122219730.

Did they change the bottle and is this the right stuff?

schnell325 · 09-29-2012, 01:43 PM

I'm pretty sure that Castrol has renamed many of their products recently. I think you should be good.

jphughan · 09-29-2012, 02:02 PM

Don't worry. Their SRF brake fluid has changed bottle styles a few times recently too.

CCLSVTM3 · 09-29-2012, 11:22 PM

Stock up and get some qts online... Dealership sells each qt for $20+!!! I think pacific BMW in Glendale tried charging me $22 a qt, I smiled, walked out and bought it online for $14 a qt....

Sean05 · 09-30-2012, 01:59 AM

ORDER one from MCkenna... cheaper than any other BMW dealer in socal.. no one can beat them.

also Castrol Edge 10W 60 is the same as the TWS..

gatorfast · 09-30-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CCLSVTM3

Stock up and get some qts online... Dealership sells each qt for $20+!!! I think pacific BMW in Glendale tried charging me $22 a qt, I smiled, walked out and bought it online for $14 a qt....

My dealer charged me $14.50. Must be CA inflation

CCLSVTM3 · 09-30-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

My dealer charged me $14.50. Must be CA inflation

Lol, damn. Good for you.... Palm Springs BMW, Pacific BMW in Glendale, and long beach BMW all had about the same prices.....

firstkill · 10-01-2012, 12:54 AM

new centry in alhambra has it 13.50 a yr ago, stocked up then

fk

paradocs98 · 10-01-2012, 01:15 AM

Yep--they changed the label on the bottle. I just got a couple the other day from the dealer and noticed the same thing. Still says TWS in small letters at the bottom, though.

For once, NY prices aren't the highest--my dealer charges around $14-15 a bottle, and then I get a 10% BMW CCA discount off of that...

persian54 · 10-01-2012, 02:41 AM

If anyone local wants any, let me know

I have 4 unopened bottles, 2 opened ones (1 is 3/4 full, the other is about 1/3 full).

Locals only as I cannot ship oil.

mdosu · 10-01-2012, 07:20 AM

I haven't heard about this change. OP can you take a pic? Front and back labels ?

Sean05 · 10-01-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

I haven't heard about this change. OP can you take a pic? Front and back labels ?

it should look like this... its not a change really probably just ran out and they got this instead. just recently got new oil that just came it from shipment last week and it came with the normal BMW Label in it.

alpina527 · 10-01-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

I haven't heard about this change. OP can you take a pic? Front and back labels ?

We have been using the Edge branded 10w60 in Europe for a few years now. It's exactly the same as TWS.

However, there is an even newer version of TWS now called Edge professional. It's supposed to be an improved TWS, but I'm not sure exactly where the improvements are.

Both bottles for comparison.

SenorFunkyPants · 10-01-2012, 08:13 AM

I believe that "Edge professional" is the brand label reserved for Castrol M car Oil provided directly to BMW.
Same oil as non professional Edge oil....you can always ring Castrol Tech support - they are always super helpful.

Sean05 · 10-01-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

We have been using the Edge branded 10w60 in Europe for a few years now. It's exactly the same as TWS.

However, there is an even newer version of TWS now called Edge professional. It's supposed to be an improved TWS, but I'm not sure exactly where the improvements are.

Both bottles for comparison.

you guys are lucky that you get this off the shelves right?

freakin US only BMW sells them and no where else.

mdosu · 10-01-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

We have been using the Edge branded 10w60 in Europe for a few years now. It's exactly the same as TWS.

However, there is an even newer version of TWS now called Edge professional. It's supposed to be an improved TWS, but I'm not sure exactly where the improvements are.

Both bottles for comparison.

yes, we're aware of this from the other oil threads. But here in the US, there's massive confusion at this point.

1. In the recent past, we could only purchase TWS from dealers or BMW performance shops.

2. Castrol release Edge line of oil found in auto parts stores. But we continue to buy TWS at dealer/performance shops.

3. Now this, dealers made the switch to Edge. I want to see the label of dealer's Edge bottles. It should say "approved for, Z4M, M3, M5, M6, Z8." something along this line. I have a feeling the off-the-shelf Edge in the US doesn't have the "approval" label.

mdosu · 10-01-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean05

it should look like this... its not a change really probably just ran out and they got this instead. just recently got new oil that just came it from shipment last week and it came with the normal BMW Label in it.

can we see a pic of the back label? thanks.

I just noticed, it actually says "Edge Professional", which is likely safe to say are dealer-oils to sell to us for the M cars. I guess the confusion is, if you buy "Edge" non-professional off-the-shelf, is it the same oil?

alpina527 · 10-01-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

3. Now this, dealers made the switch to Edge. I want to see the label of dealer's Edge bottles. It should say "approved for, Z4M, M3, M5, M6, Z8." something along this line. I have a feeling the off-the-shelf Edge in the US doesn't have the "approval" label.

Off the shelf 'Edge' 10w60 definitely has approved for M cars on the label. Just don't get the 'Edge Sport' 10w60 which is the non approved version.

mdosu · 10-01-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

Off the shelf 'Edge' 10w60 definitely has approved for M cars on the label. Just don't get the 'Edge Sport' 10w60 which is the non approved version.

In England/Europe, yes, but "Edge" 10-60 has never been at auto-parts stores in US. I'm still not sure if they ever will sell "Edge" or "Edge Professional" 10W-60 in stores. They already have "Edge" 10W-30 and others in stores in US

Agreed on the "Edge Sport". Not approved.

Z K · 10-01-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

Off the shelf 'Edge' 10w60 definitely has approved for M cars on the label. Just don't get the 'Edge Sport' 10w60 which is the non approved version.

In the USA, we can not get Castrol 10w60 oil at any local retailers. It is only available at the BMW dealer and there is only 1 version.

alpina527 · 10-01-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Z K

In the USA, we can not get Castrol 10w60 oil at any local retailers. It is only available at the BMW dealer and there is only 1 version.

That must be a major headache. At least it's cheaper in USA

Sean05 · 10-01-2012, 11:23 AM

from my understanding... they have been labeling the new Castrol Edge with Edge Professional. Even the one in Walmart is labeled professional (FYI not the 10w 60 but the regular oil is marked as professional. Sounds like they are changing the oil a bit for better use....

not sure if they will still produce the edge or edge sport but definately i have not seen the edge or edge sport in our local auto shop... unless they have old stock.

09-29-2012, 01:34 PM	#1
gatorfast Lieutenant Colonel Drives: MR E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoFla Posts: 1,808 iTrader: (3)	Castrol TWS Just picked up a few liters at the dealership as I was getting a low engine oil warning. I asked for the 10w-60 M oil and the bottles I received look different than they used to. It says its "Castrol Edge" 10w-60 and says on the back it's for BMW M cars. I remember the bottle saying TWS and not edge. The part # is 83122219730. Did they change the bottle and is this the right stuff?
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09-29-2012, 01:43 PM	#2
schnell325 Bored at work.... Drives: '08 M3,'11 335xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BC Posts: 3,400 iTrader: (5)	I'm pretty sure that Castrol has renamed many of their products recently. I think you should be good. __________________ 2008 SG E92 M3 6MT AA Stage 2 w/ Meth 2011 SG E90 335xi 6MT 2007 SG E70 X5 4.8is

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09-29-2012, 11:22 PM	#4
CCLSVTM3 Lieutenant Drives: Interlagos blue E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 528 iTrader: (1)	Stock up and get some qts online... Dealership sells each qt for $20+!!! I think pacific BMW in Glendale tried charging me $22 a qt, I smiled, walked out and bought it online for $14 a qt.... __________________ BMC filter, OEM Exh Mod, ESS Direct Flash tune, flat black kidney grills, color painted front reflectors, LUX Angel eyes, -2012 SVT Raptor 4 dr -09 E90 M3

09-30-2012, 01:59 AM	#5
Sean05 Putcha ang ganda... Drives: 08 MR E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA. Posts: 4,976 iTrader: (9)	ORDER one from MCkenna... cheaper than any other BMW dealer in socal.. no one can beat them. also Castrol Edge 10W 60 is the same as the TWS.. __________________

10-01-2012, 12:54 AM	#8
firstkill Second Lieutenant Drives: e93 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alhambra Posts: 234 iTrader: (0)	new centry in alhambra has it 13.50 a yr ago, stocked up then fk

10-01-2012, 01:15 AM	#9
paradocs98 Major Drives: 2011 E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY Posts: 1,199 iTrader: (0)	Yep--they changed the label on the bottle. I just got a couple the other day from the dealer and noticed the same thing. Still says TWS in small letters at the bottom, though. For once, NY prices aren't the highest--my dealer charges around $14-15 a bottle, and then I get a 10% BMW CCA discount off of that... __________________

10-01-2012, 02:41 AM	#10
persian54 Lieutenant General Drives: MW E93 M3/E89 Z4 35i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal Posts: 15,351 iTrader: (258)	If anyone local wants any, let me know I have 4 unopened bottles, 2 opened ones (1 is 3/4 full, the other is about 1/3 full). Locals only as I cannot ship oil. __________________ Next track day: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651089 Sorry I'm just someone who comes on here to fill a void..I dont have the $ to own a BMW. This is a nice E93:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434032

10-01-2012, 07:20 AM	#11
mdosu Help! Can't decide btw MW & AW, 1st world problems Drives: 2008.99989 SSII E90 "Civic" Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,922 iTrader: (4)	I haven't heard about this change. OP can you take a pic? Front and back labels ? __________________ Yes, that's a xmas tree in my trunk

10-01-2012, 08:13 AM	#14
SenorFunkyPants Major Drives: E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,316 iTrader: (0)	I believe that "Edge professional" is the brand label reserved for Castrol M car Oil provided directly to BMW. Same oil as non professional Edge oil....you can always ring Castrol Tech support - they are always super helpful. __________________

10-01-2012, 11:23 AM	#22
Sean05 Putcha ang ganda... Drives: 08 MR E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA. Posts: 4,976 iTrader: (9)	from my understanding... they have been labeling the new Castrol Edge with Edge Professional. Even the one in Walmart is labeled professional (FYI not the 10w 60 but the regular oil is marked as professional. Sounds like they are changing the oil a bit for better use.... not sure if they will still produce the edge or edge sport but definately i have not seen the edge or edge sport in our local auto shop... unless they have old stock. __________________

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