Is the new M5 (F10) sporty enough? (M5 vs. M3)

DeepSeaLandry · 06-12-2012, 10:19 PM

Debating on replacing my current M3 (E90) with a new M5 (F10) so the vs. is in effect.

My question for discussion, is the new M5 sporty enough? You get looks, compliments, the feel of a sports car in an M3. Would you get the same reactions/feeling if you were driving an M5. Or is the larger Sedan too much luxury and not enough sport? Not that I am looking for attention per se, but I surely don't want people to take me for a middle aged business man in "oh he drives a 5 series sedan, boring!" (until they get smoked by the twin turbo V8).

Your thoughts??

Singletrack · 06-12-2012, 10:26 PM

M5 is less attention grabbing than an M3 to the layman IMHO. It is also a heavy car, and there is only so much that can be done to mask that in the handling department. Will surely make you giggle when accelerating though.

Brosef · 06-12-2012, 10:27 PM

the new M5 is gangster. get it in black.

Nick45 · 06-12-2012, 10:37 PM

Get the new m6 coupe..

Singletrack · 06-12-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buddham6

Get the new m6 coupe..

Good suggestion.

DeepSeaLandry · 06-12-2012, 11:50 PM

Truthfully looking at other non BMW options too, i.e. Porsche, Masarati, etc. Its hard to find what the "next level" of sports car is tho when compared to M's without getting into the mid to high $100k's.

clar · 06-13-2012, 01:24 AM

You can refer to my M5 vs M3 review here:

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648335

Feel free to ask if u have any further query.

Terraforce1 · 06-13-2012, 07:43 AM

M5 is slick, but it's not as hawt as an M3

DeepSeaLandry · 06-13-2012, 11:51 AM

Thanks for the input all

Nine · 06-13-2012, 12:37 PM

larger luxury sedan are typically not associated with sporty, it's very rare, maybe a maserati but every performance luxury sedan looks geared towards the older folds.

gblansten · 06-13-2012, 04:10 PM

If the M5 isn't sporty enough just download a new mp3 of the engine noise to play through the speakers.

DeepSeaLandry · 06-13-2012, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by clar

You can refer to my M5 vs M3 review here:

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648335

Feel free to ask if u have any further query.

Great write up Char, I appreciate the heads up. I would have to say that I agree with alot of your feedback. I did not take into account the engine noise pipped into the cokcpit tho and oddly enough, that is REALLY a big turn off for me.

clar · 06-13-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSeaLandry

Great write up Char, I appreciate the heads up. I would have to say that I agree with alot of your feedback. I did not take into account the engine noise pipped into the cokcpit tho and oddly enough, that is REALLY a big turn off for me.

Thanks. In case u haven't seen this thread, i did an experiment disabling Active Sound via the fuse box and recorded the sounds. It's not that big a deal actually:

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680384

tibra1 · 06-13-2012, 07:05 PM

No b/c it has 4 doors

tibra1 · 06-13-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

If the M5 isn't sporty enough just download a new mp3 of the engine noise to play through the speakers.

..vroom vroom

bobbyd1961 · 06-13-2012, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSeaLandry

Debating on replacing my current M3 (E90) with a new M5 (F10) so the vs. is in effect.

My question for discussion, is the new M5 sporty enough? You get looks, compliments, the feel of a sports car in an M3. Would you get the same reactions/feeling if you were driving an M5. Or is the larger Sedan too much luxury and not enough sport? Not that I am looking for attention per se, but I surely don't want people to take me for a middle aged business man in "oh he drives a 5 series sedan, boring!" (until they get smoked by the twin turbo V8).

Your thoughts??

waiting for ne M3 sedan. i know it will be all out better in performance and will crush the competition. unlike the M5 reviews against the e63 and unbelievably the audi s6

AudiS5 · 06-13-2012, 07:08 PM

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ts?redirect=no

bobbyd1961 · 06-13-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AudiS5

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ts?redirect=no

my point exactly M3 beats the rs5 and crushes the s5.

clar · 06-13-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSeaLandry

Debating on replacing my current M3 (E90) with a new M5 (F10) so the vs. is in effect.

My question for discussion, is the new M5 sporty enough? You get looks, compliments, the feel of a sports car in an M3. Would you get the same reactions/feeling if you were driving an M5. Or is the larger Sedan too much luxury and not enough sport? Not that I am looking for attention per se, but I surely don't want people to take me for a middle aged business man in "oh he drives a 5 series sedan, boring!" (until they get smoked by the twin turbo V8).

Your thoughts??

Having spent 5 months with the F10 M5, i must say it's one amazing car. The F10 M5 has a great steering which is highly responsive with adequate feedback. The only downside is the size, but u feel it only when in tight spaces. I typically set the EDC to Sports and throttle to Sports Plus, and that is the best combination between comfort and sharpness. It's damn near perfect at this combination. I have gotten used to every aspect of the car with the exception of one thing, which i still hate. That's the damn steering wheel. It's too big and doesn't look sporty enough. My dealer can't retrofit the M6 steering wheel as that's not an officially sanctioned retrofit, so i might have to risk going at it myself.

As far as looks are concerned, u tend to get stares from slightly older people esp the regular F10 driving crowd. If u are ready to move on to something more executive, u can't go wrong with the M5.

clar · 06-13-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

waiting for ne M3 sedan. i know it will be all out better in performance and will crush the competition. unlike the M5 reviews against the e63 and unbelievably the audi s6

I remember when the E9x M3 first came out, it lost to the E46 M3 and even RS4. Unless u can be sure the reviewers are impartial, reviews can pretty much go any way with any car depending on the agenda of the publication. Most reviews between the M5 and competition found the M5 superior in driving dynamics and marginally faster in the straights. U do get freak result in the recent battle against the S6, but that review is a suspect in my opinion. I know for sure the next M3 will not crush its competition in the straights. The current C63 with power pack is already quite a lot faster than the current M3 and sits nicely in the middle ground between the current M3 and the F10 M5. BMW will not allow the next M3 to be too close to the M5 in the straights.

Porschefile · 06-13-2012, 07:27 PM

IMO, no. It has more forward thrust and is more comfy, but that is all it wins. More expensive, heavier, number handling, etc.

LarThaL · 06-13-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSeaLandry

Truthfully looking at other non BMW options too, i.e. Porsche, Masarati, etc. Its hard to find what the "next level" of sports car is tho when compared to M's without getting into the mid to high $100k's.

Yep. Hard to beat what the M3 has to offer south of $100k. There is a reason this car has gained legendary status.

06-12-2012, 10:19 PM	#1
DeepSeaLandry First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 M3 E90 DCT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 348 iTrader: (0)	Is the new M5 (F10) sporty enough? (M5 vs. M3) Debating on replacing my current M3 (E90) with a new M5 (F10) so the vs. is in effect. My question for discussion, is the new M5 sporty enough? You get looks, compliments, the feel of a sports car in an M3. Would you get the same reactions/feeling if you were driving an M5. Or is the larger Sedan too much luxury and not enough sport? Not that I am looking for attention per se, but I surely don't want people to take me for a middle aged business man in "oh he drives a 5 series sedan, boring!" (until they get smoked by the twin turbo V8). Your thoughts??
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06-12-2012, 10:26 PM	#2
Singletrack 4th down; 4th quarter? Renegade. Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3; 12 AW X5d Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,800 iTrader: (3)	M5 is less attention grabbing than an M3 to the layman IMHO. It is also a heavy car, and there is only so much that can be done to mask that in the handling department. Will surely make you giggle when accelerating though. __________________ Singletrack's M3 iND/Singletrack's X5d

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clar Captain Drives: M3/M5 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 601 iTrader: (0)	You can refer to my M5 vs M3 review here: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648335 Feel free to ask if u have any further query. __________________ Current Rides: - Frozen Grey E92 M3 DCT w Perf Exhaust - Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT

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06-12-2012, 10:27 PM	#3
Brosef Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 M Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,510 iTrader: (3)	the new M5 is gangster. get it in black.

06-12-2012, 10:37 PM	#4
Nick45 Private First Class Drives: 2013 M6 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NY Posts: 132 iTrader: (0)	Get the new m6 coupe..

06-12-2012, 11:50 PM	#6
DeepSeaLandry First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 M3 E90 DCT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 348 iTrader: (0)	Truthfully looking at other non BMW options too, i.e. Porsche, Masarati, etc. Its hard to find what the "next level" of sports car is tho when compared to M's without getting into the mid to high $100k's.

06-13-2012, 07:43 AM	#8
Terraforce1 If you ain't first, you're last! Drives: 11' M3 ZCP + 10' 1198S Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Africa Posts: 549 iTrader: (0)	M5 is slick, but it's not as hawt as an M3

06-13-2012, 11:51 AM	#9
DeepSeaLandry First Lieutenant Drives: 2011 M3 E90 DCT Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 348 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the input all

06-13-2012, 12:37 PM	#10
Nine Banned Drives: Not ZCP, FML. Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC, Miami, NYC Posts: 1,926 iTrader: (2)	larger luxury sedan are typically not associated with sporty, it's very rare, maybe a maserati but every performance luxury sedan looks geared towards the older folds.

06-13-2012, 04:10 PM	#11
gblansten Captain Obvious Drives: 2011 BMW M3 SSII/Black Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thick ascending limb Posts: 1,255 iTrader: (0)	If the M5 isn't sporty enough just download a new mp3 of the engine noise to play through the speakers.

06-13-2012, 07:05 PM	#14
tibra1 Banned Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,779 iTrader: (4)	No b/c it has 4 doors

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AudiS5 Lieutenant Drives: Moderately Quick Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New York Posts: 493 iTrader: (1)	http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...ts?redirect=no

06-13-2012, 07:27 PM	#21
Porschefile Major Drives: E92 M3 DCT, E46, Formula Mazda Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,050 iTrader: (5)	IMO, no. It has more forward thrust and is more comfy, but that is all it wins. More expensive, heavier, number handling, etc.