BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
Steve Thomas BMW
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-04-2012, 02:58 PM   #23
tibra1
Banned
No_Country
77
Rep
6,774
Posts

Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (4)

Well Texas is the only state to have ever been its own soverign republic with its own currency so I guess anything is possible.

They probably deputized the OP on the 911 call and told him to have at it
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:01 PM   #24
CanAutM3
Major General
CanAutM3's Avatar
Canada
364
Rep
5,660
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 DCT
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [4.10]
2006 Audi S4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giccy View Post
'Merica FTW.

In Canada, our cops don't even give chase......
Hahah, so true...
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:06 PM   #25
youngnastyman
Major
United_States
69
Rep
1,401
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tibra1 View Post
I know right..and then what happend after the cops caught him..story is kinda of lacking
They caught him and put him in the back of the cruiser. Then they came to the parking lot I was in and gave me all of his information and asked me if I wanted to press charges. If I did I would've had to testify in court and all that jazz which I really didn't feel like doing. Him (or his insurance) taking responsibility for the damages he did to my car was enough justice for me.

Guy was an ex army ranger. The last thing I want is some vet with PTSD going to jail for the weekend and thinking about how he's going to kick my ass when he gets out.

The cop on the phone was pretty pissed off though that I didn't press charges. But I'm not the police, nor do I want to make the decision of who should and shouldn't go to jail.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:10 PM   #26
Nine
Banned
32
Rep
1,925
Posts

Drives: Not ZCP, FML.
Join Date: May 2010
Location: DC, Miami, NYC

iTrader: (2)

Let's say the story is real, or that the police gave you the right direction...

Be very careful following people, especially in Texas, and especially those who run after hit and runs. It's possible they have warrants, weapon, a desperate situation and things can escalate from a $500-$1000 auto body job to a life and death situation.

Seriously.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:10 PM   #27
tibra1
Banned
No_Country
77
Rep
6,774
Posts

Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by youngnastyman View Post
They caught him and put him in the back of the cruiser. Then they came to the parking lot I was in and gave me all of his information and asked me if I wanted to press charges. If I did I would've had to testify in court and all that jazz which I really didn't feel like doing. Him (or his insurance) taking responsibility for the damages he did to my car was enough justice for me.

Guy was an ex army ranger. The last thing I want is some vet with PTSD going to jail for the weekend and thinking about how he's going to kick my ass when he gets out.

The cop on the phone was pretty pissed off though that I didn't press charges. But I'm not the police, nor do I want to make the decision of who should and shouldn't go to jail.
The cop was right...I think you should have pressed charges..then you would have been easily setup for the civil suit..FYI the court would automatically issue an order of protection against that guy so he couldnt come near you without getting arrested again..
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:16 PM   #28
youngnastyman
Major
United_States
69
Rep
1,401
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nine View Post
Let's say the story is real, or that the police gave you the right direction...

Be very careful following people, especially in Texas, and especially those who run after hit and runs. It's possible they have warrants, weapon, a desperate situation and things can escalate from a $500-$1000 auto body job to a life and death situation.

Seriously.

I def. agree. Even though I was following him, I was doing my best to keep a good distance from him. People have bad road-rage in Houston and pretty much everyone packs heat.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:24 PM   #29
TTG
...
TTG's Avatar
United_States
36
Rep
2,925
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
Only in TX....

I witnessed something like this couple of years ago with only difference being the car that got hit was disabled.... So I started chasing the other car while dialing 911. The 1st thing 911 operator told me is to pull over NOW! Which I complied, gave the cars description and went on my own business.

I am sure in WA State, they would of charged your for going 80-90 on public roads among with all the other rules that you broke while "chasing" the bad guy.
__________________
Retired: 2011 E92 M3 AW w/ Silver Novillo ZCP, ZTP, ZPP, 494, 6FL, 507, 302 & 415.....ED April 29th, 2010
Retired: 2007 E92 335i -Space Gray, Black Leatherette + Alum, Nav, ZCW, ZSP, PDC, CA & Sunshade.....ED Oct 19th, 2006
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:30 PM   #30
Erhan
Colonel
Erhan's Avatar
United_States
38
Rep
2,466
Posts

Drives: Cooper S
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

M3 is not a good chase car... you can chase someone for how long 200miles?
__________________
2011 MINI Cooper S
previous cars: E92 M3, Z4MC, Z4 Roadster, E36 328 Sedan
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 03:55 PM   #31
767IJP
Second Lieutenant
5
Rep
248
Posts

Drives: 2012 M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Lower Rubber Boot, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Guy drunk or what. Likely realized what he did then it was keeping his ass out of jail on a DWI.
__________________
Don't tell my Mother I'm a pilot.... She thinks I play piano at the whorehouse...
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:05 PM   #32
KIS
Lieutenant
KIS's Avatar
United_States
9
Rep
516
Posts

Drives: 2014 C63 Coupe
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Houston, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tibra1 View Post
The cop was right...I think you should have pressed charges..then you would have been easily setup for the civil suit..FYI the court would automatically issue an order of protection against that guy so he couldnt come near you without getting arrested again..

I have always wondered how a protective order protects you. If the crazy guy follows you just to intimidate you, then you don't need protection. And if he follows you to kill you, then you're fucked anyway. I guess he would then be arrested for violating the protective order in addition to killing you....
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:34 PM   #33
Mr. ///M3 RD
Major General
Mr. ///M3 RD's Avatar
Canada
166
Rep
7,863
Posts

Drives: E350 & 280 SL on Weekends :)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giccy View Post
'Merica FTW.

In Canada, our cops don't even give chase......
They do only if it involves alcohol and you are right about the police in my case it was the RCMP.

Actual Situation ...

Some 10 years ago I drove south from Edmonton to the US border. Shortly after I passed Calgary on Highway 2 going south a car passed me and continued in front of me, only swaing from lane to lane it was quite evident the driver was intoxicated. I feared for him to leave the highway or worse create a crash and or fatality so I called 911. The 911 operator asked me for my name and contact information then connected me with the RCMP.

The RCMP despatched asked me where I was and told me he would dispatch a unit. Shortly thereafter my cell phone rang and the officer asked me where I was now. We communicated then he said that he would be in my facility within 2 to 3 minutes and for me to flash my headlights when he passes me, at that point the car had passed a truck in front of me and was no longer in my sight. As he said he passed me within 3 minutes I flashed my lights then a minute or so later 2 more RCMP cars passed me at very high speed (all three cars did not have there lights flashing) shortly thereafter I passed all three they had the car under suspect boxed in to the left off the highway all three RCMP crusers by then had there lights flashing.

Highway 2 going south is a one way 2 lane going south and north. The crusers had the suspect boxed in to the center on the grass medium. I stopped shortly thereafter to call the RCMP officer that called me back to inquire if I've done the right thing. He confirmed that I did and thanked me for alerting them. The officer said if need be I would be contacted as a wittiness, this never materialized.

This was the one and only time (in my over 50 years of driving in North America) that I contacted the Police/RCMP or 911 on the road while driving for I feared for the drivers or other drivers live. The driver was driving so iresponcible that one can only describe it like someone walking around on a crowded street with a loaded gun.
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well
---> Click here for some good stuff I found
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:45 PM   #34
Mr. ///M3 RD
Major General
Mr. ///M3 RD's Avatar
Canada
166
Rep
7,863
Posts

Drives: E350 & 280 SL on Weekends :)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erhan View Post
M3 is not a good chase car... you can chase someone for how long 200miles?
Perhaps even less at high speed, then the police would stop you, take your car and licence trow you in jail and the fellow you were chasing gets away

In the USA I always drive within the posted speed limit (well I follow the flow and or go 10% above the posted speed limit). I hate the thought of being stopped and have to spread eagle on the car for the officer

Only once have I been approached by the Highway patrol in the US it was in NY State on my way to NYC. The old clunker I was driving way back then at age 21 was a Oldsmobile 1953 it over heated so I pulled over on the express way. The officer pulled up behind me and informed me that I cannot park here. I told him "Officer please give me 10 minutes and the car will start" he said "That is not possible I will get a tow truck for you" and he left. I waited until I spotted him and the tow truck then started my engine and drove off. I waved at both as they passed me going the other way. I still smile when I think about it today
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well
---> Click here for some good stuff I found
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:49 PM   #35
Mr. ///M3 RD
Major General
Mr. ///M3 RD's Avatar
Canada
166
Rep
7,863
Posts

Drives: E350 & 280 SL on Weekends :)
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngnastyman View Post
I def. agree. Even though I was following him, I was doing my best to keep a good distance from him. People have bad road-rage in Houston and pretty much everyone packs heat.
I think the officer meant for you to follow him at normal speed I don't think he meant to deputize you to engage in a chase.

I am reminded of the "Blue Colour Comedy Show" where the Texan Comedian said"

"In Texas we have the death penalty and we use it! We have an express lane, if you kill someone you move right up to the front of the line" I found that part very funny.
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter

Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well
---> Click here for some good stuff I found
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:52 PM   #36
S.hasan546
Captain
9
Rep
686
Posts

Drives: 1M, Exige, S2k, C250, Pilot
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Long Island

iTrader: (0)

OP was pretty stupid to follow. Next time you might not be so lucky.

Only in texas (oh and florida of course)
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 04:54 PM   #37
tibra1
Banned
No_Country
77
Rep
6,774
Posts

Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KIS View Post
I have always wondered how a protective order protects you. If the crazy guy follows you just to intimidate you, then you don't need protection. And if he follows you to kill you, then you're fucked anyway. I guess he would then be arrested for violating the protective order in addition to killing you....
Agree.. but just b/c the legal system is flawed we should choose not to participate in it?

I would think if hes in Texas..he has a right to arm himself..guy shows up to his house he calls the cops and if need be protects himself...

Anyways it seems OP only wanted his car fixed..I would sue the pants off the guy
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:02 PM   #38
youngnastyman
Major
United_States
69
Rep
1,401
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tibra1 View Post
Agree.. but just b/c the legal system is flawed we should choose not to participate in it?

I would think if hes in Texas..he has a right to arm himself..guy shows up to his house he calls the cops and if need be protects himself...

Anyways it seems OP only wanted his car fixed..I would sue the pants off the guy
Seriously considered it.. but man karma's a b&**! I don't want to go through all that litigation anyway. He hit me, I got the cops to catch him, his insurance is paying for the damages. Done deal.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #39
Captain45
Private First Class
Captain45's Avatar
5
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: 08 E92 - SG
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

You sure you didnt eat a bunch of peyote and flick on GTAIV for a few hours?
__________________
Now: BMW ///M3 Coupe: Space Gray || 220m|| DCT ||
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:19 PM   #40
tma1c
Lieutenant
tma1c's Avatar
United_States
14
Rep
567
Posts

Drives: 08 E93 6MT M3
Join Date: May 2008
Location: philly

iTrader: (12)

Send a message via AIM to tma1c
I would have followed him for sure at a distance.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:23 PM   #41
Dave07997S
Colonel
52
Rep
2,703
Posts

Drives: 2013 BMW M3 ZCP Coupe
Join Date: May 2009
Location: El Segundo, CA

iTrader: (1)

I too am having a hard time believing this. What you are asking us to believe is that the Police allowed you to disobey posted speed limits to give chase to a vehicle that side swiped your car.

If this is true the Police are absolute idiots. If the driver in the Jeep got pissed and decided to run you off the road or even worse brandish a weapon and decided to bust a cap in your ass, they, the Police would be liable.

Even if this didn't happen but you were injured in the pursuit, once again the Police would be liable.

The kicker is you are talking to them on a cell phone...hopefully handsfree cause if no, then another violation.

My only question is what are you smoking, and why aren't you offering us any?

The last thing any Police dept. wants is a vigilante.

Dave
__________________
2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, ACM test pipes, BPM Stg2 dev. tune and Megan catback, AFE Stg2. with C/F elbow VMRV810 19x10&19X11 275/295 Mich PSS.
Previous rides: 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk
2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats
2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:27 PM   #42
DARK_M3
Banned
40
Rep
1,294
Posts

Drives: 08 E90, 89 Grand Wagoneer
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (3)

This is why my Go Pro is mounted in my windshield always. Whenever something of interest happens or whenever a cop gets behind me I flip it on.

I'm surprised 911 had you give chase. I've been involved in a couple chases (witnessed a hit & run) and the 911 operator told me that if the suspect caused an accident that I would be liable and to not give pursuit. I guess it's different in Texas!
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:34 PM   #43
DARK_M3
Banned
40
Rep
1,294
Posts

Drives: 08 E90, 89 Grand Wagoneer
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: So Cal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giccy View Post
'Merica FTW.

In Canada, our cops don't even give chase......
You say that like its a bad thing. High speed pursuits almost always end bad for innocent people and property. This is why we have a system in place to identify people. It's called license plates.

I'm all for no chases unless its absolutely neccissary for whatever reason.
Appreciate 0
      06-04-2012, 05:35 PM   #44
SchnellM3
Digger
SchnellM3's Avatar
United_States
62
Rep
2,613
Posts

Drives: 03 E46 M3, 09 E92 M3, 09 X6 50
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Pa

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giccy View Post
'Merica FTW.

In Canada, our cops don't even give chase......
I know a lot of departments that have a no chase policy...... Around here only the troopers are allowed to but have to GET PERMISSION from their CO before pursuing and it has to be something serious to do so.....
__________________
2009 E92 M3 /// Melbourne Red /// Fox Red /// M DKG

Full Innotech Exhaust - DINAN Intake - IND Engine Bay Appearance - IND Hand Stitched Boot Covers - and much more....
Appreciate 0
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:38 AM.




m3post
m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST