BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
ESS Tuning
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-02-2012, 09:08 PM   #1
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Getting Old? Exhaust drone getting to me

Guys,

I hate to admit it but after a year, my Remus Race has finally gotten to me. The drone in cruising RPMs is too much for me to bear.

Up until now, the looks and low end sound outweighed the drone, but I cannot compromise anymore.

That said, I need a new exhaust. The obvious choice is the Remus Sport as I must have chrome slash cut tips, and I've read good feedback about the lack of drone.

I would love your inputs on other systems that might fit the bill as well.

Thank you.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2012, 09:12 PM   #2
tibra1
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC

Posts: 6,777
iTrader: (4)

Glad you're being so forthcoming..I suspect more than a few people the same way..except they never post about it.
tibra1 is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2012, 09:28 PM   #3
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tibra1 View Post
Glad you're being so forthcoming..I suspect more than a few people the same way..except they never post about it.
Thank you. My exhaust experience is a sobering reminder about the amount of thought put into OEM parts.

As another example, the tips of the Remus Race fit so closely to my bumper that during track days with intense heat, the tip actually touches the bumper and over multiple sessions, the tip has melted a section of my bumper, which will now require a re-paint.

I suspect my modding days might be over
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2012, 09:48 PM   #4
tibra1
Banned
 
Drives: 2011 ZCP M3 - 2007 335i crashd
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NYC

Posts: 6,777
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajvee View Post
Thank you. My exhaust experience is a sobering reminder about the amount of thought put into OEM parts.

As another example, the tips of the Remus Race fit so closely to my bumper that during track days with intense heat, the tip actually touches the bumper and over multiple sessions, the tip has melted a section of my bumper, which will now require a re-paint.

I suspect my modding days might be over
Ouch..yeah I have done the OEM exhaust mod (single perforated pipe method) and have found it to be just enough...
tibra1 is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2012, 10:02 PM   #5
ROB_S2K
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2014 Grand Cherokee SRT8
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 1,766
iTrader: (4)

I hear great things about Corsa. I myself have the Revinora exhaust with silencers on which eliminates almost all drone.
__________________
2014 Grand Cherokee SRT-8

(2012 | Laguna Seca Blue | Rust Brown | Individual | 6MT) SOLD
ROB_S2K is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2012, 11:28 PM   #6
crabman
Captain
 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: WA

Posts: 669
iTrader: (0)

Lol It happens man. Outside of flogger cars in real life I hardly know anyone that had a very loud exhaust option on any car that didn't get rid of it after a time. Its only on the forums where I see people that say they have been living with it for years and love it.

If I were you I would try and start hearing your options at gtg's. A lot of exhausts have some drone and that includes the Remus sport. Any exhaust you have read about where someone types in anything along the lines of "band of resonance" "easy to drive around" "just a bit of vibration that quickly passes" etc etc. Those exhausts all drone, dont let anybody kid you. You may be good with that lesser drone as compared to what you have or not, no way to know without taking a spin in a car that has the cans you are considering.
__________________
2012 E92 Space Grey with fox red/black/black, comp, premium, DCT, premium sound, sirius, heated seats.
crabman is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 12:48 AM   #7
IFX
Banned
 
Drives: AW e46M/N54
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South Fla.

Posts: 2,538
iTrader: (1)

Slap a blower on it. I can guarantee you'll BE young again
IFX is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 05:01 AM   #8
Soorena
Captain
 
Drives: M3 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Paris

Posts: 825
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
OP do you have resonators in place or not?
Soorena is offline   Iran
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 05:20 AM   #9
Moxie
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Moxie's Avatar
 
Drives: AW 328d Touring/SG 335d
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Stuttgart

Posts: 1,859
iTrader: (11)

Ditch the Race & try a Sport exhaust. I wouldn't bother putting OEM back on.
Moxie is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 05:32 AM   #10
Poppin Fresh
Colonel
 
Poppin Fresh's Avatar
 
Drives: With a sunroof and front plate
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bergen County NJ

Posts: 2,128
iTrader: (0)

Before I even opened this thread I had a feeling you were talking about the Remus Race. I know how you feel sometimes...but I'm still young and the low end roar/howl is very intoxicating!
__________________
Poppin Fresh is offline   Philippines
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 05:56 AM   #11
CanAutM3
Brigadier General
 
CanAutM3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2015 M4 DCT
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Montreal

Posts: 3,531
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3  [0.00]
2006 Audi S4  [0.00]
If you want to put the money, M-performance. Great sound, absolutely no drone.
CanAutM3 is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 07:18 AM   #12
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soorena View Post
OP do you have resonators in place or not?
My embarassing answer is that I am not sure. I basically just replaced the mufflers, so I removed the stock axleback and put on the Remus Race mufflers.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 07:19 AM   #13
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poppin Fresh View Post
Before I even opened this thread I had a feeling you were talking about the Remus Race. I know how you feel sometimes...but I'm still young and the low end roar/howl is very intoxicating!
I am glad you have the patience sir, but I did a 4 hour trip to NJ yesterday actually and the drone was just intolerable.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 07:20 AM   #14
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by crabman View Post
Lol It happens man. Outside of flogger cars in real life I hardly know anyone that had a very loud exhaust option on any car that didn't get rid of it after a time. Its only on the forums where I see people that say they have been living with it for years and love it.

If I were you I would try and start hearing your options at gtg's. A lot of exhausts have some drone and that includes the Remus sport. Any exhaust you have read about where someone types in anything along the lines of "band of resonance" "easy to drive around" "just a bit of vibration that quickly passes" etc etc. Those exhausts all drone, dont let anybody kid you. You may be good with that lesser drone as compared to what you have or not, no way to know without taking a spin in a car that has the cans you are considering.
Good point! In NJ right now guys, any GTGs coming up?
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 07:21 AM   #15
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanAutM3 View Post
If you want to put the money, M-performance. Great sound, absolutely no drone.
Did hear the M performance at a track day and am seriously considering it. The cons are that it still has the droopy nuts look and the tips are not slash cut.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 07:44 AM   #16
Raptor251
ESS Dreaming
 
Raptor251's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011.5 e92 m3/Ford Raptor 6.2
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Diego

Posts: 870
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajvee View Post
Guys,

I hate to admit it but after a year, my Remus Race has finally gotten to me. The drone in cruising RPMs is too much for me to bear.

Up until now, the looks and low end sound outweighed the drone, but I cannot compromise anymore.

That said, I need a new exhaust. The obvious choice is the Remus Sport as I must have chrome slash cut tips, and I've read good feedback about the lack of drone.

I would love your inputs on other systems that might fit the bill as well.

Thank you.
The fabspeed maxflow mufflers are pretty tame and have the chrome slash cut tips you like
Raptor251 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 08:06 AM   #17
MKE_M3
Lieutenant Colonel
 
MKE_M3's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 e90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Posts: 1,671
iTrader: (0)

EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajvee View Post
Guys,

I hate to admit it but after a year, my Remus Race has proven to be amaizing.

Up until now, the looks and low end sound outweighed the almost non existant drone, there is no compromise.

That said, I need a new exhaust and the Remus Race is for sale!!!. The obvious choice is the Remus Sport as I must have chrome slash cut tips, and I've read good feedback about it. I really just don't want more horespower, so I'm willing to let my Race go for cheap!!

I would love your inputs on other systems that might fit the bill as well.

Thank you.
Thanks for being honest OP!
__________________
MKE_M3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 08:10 AM   #18
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdemetry View Post
EDIT:

Thanks for being honest OP!
LOL! The only part of your changes that is true is the willingness to let it go for cheap! Honestly, I am ready to get rid of this thing.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 08:11 AM   #19
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raptor251 View Post
The fabspeed maxflow mufflers are pretty tame and have the chrome slash cut tips you like
I forgot about fabspeed. I will have to look into them. Thank you sir.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 08:25 AM   #20
bmellion
First Lieutenant
 
bmellion's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 F13 M6
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Providence, RI

Posts: 328
iTrader: (0)

M performance...amazing sound..

I painted the "nuts" as you call them with rustoleum engine enamel and they disappeared.

Looks fabulous, and I love the titanium tips.

M performance all the way! Best choice i ever made and no drone whatsoever!
bmellion is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 09:21 AM   #21
porshah
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NJ

Posts: 398
iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2008 BMW M3  [0.00]
I have Corsa on my E93. No drone. At startup and wot it sounds amazing, and when crusing along even with top down its just perfect.
porshah is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2012, 09:22 AM   #22
ajvee
Major
 
Drives: None
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: None

Posts: 1,435
iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by porshah View Post
I have Corsa on my E93. No drone. At startup and wot it sounds amazing, and when crusing along even with top down its just perfect.
Would you be open to meeting up so that I might check out the exhaust? I Will be in NJ for the next 2 months.
ajvee is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:27 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST