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05-18-2012, 10:19 PM | #23 |
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This thread is both funny and sad at the same time. It's just as ridiculous as when all those folks accused Bush of being behind the 9/11 attacks.
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05-18-2012, 10:52 PM | #24 |
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Maybe not
Maybe not. The market over the past eight to twelve weeks has gone down over 5%. Caterpillar Inc for example has went from 116 to today 88. That's almost 30 bucks. I may not be much of a market watcher but it looks like it is on the verge of a free fall like in 08-09. I certainly hope not.
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05-19-2012, 11:12 PM | #27 |
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Tell that to the families that still have no work and are in foreclosure
Not my bias, just my billfold. I lost 62% of our portfolio three years ago and I really don't wish to go through that again and it sure feels like we could
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I lost 50% 3 years ago, got back 40% and 20% the next two; so what? I ask you why you're pretending the economy's different than it is, and your response is "it sure feels like it". You want Obama to fail so much, you can't open your eyes. Pathetic and un-American. |
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I just find posts like this funny, here you are characterizing Obama as a president that cannot do wrong, and then attack Romney as a guy that can’t do anything right. Its post like these that are not constructive at all, and don’t get me wrong these posts come from both sides. I’d like to think that there could be more positive discussions about this topic but I know when you talk about politics that doesn’t happen. And for the record I’m a registered Republican, but my views have evolved over the years. |
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And yes, there could be more positive discussions, but just look at the titles of the threads in this forum, and tell me why the discussions are not more positive. |
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Like I said in my first post this stuff goes both ways right and left. I enjoy talking politics and I think that a lot can be learned from listening with an open mind to others and their opinions & experiences on issues. I also agree with you that there are many on this forum that don’t see it that way. I just can’t stand the people that think Obama is the Savior just as much as the people that think he is the Anit-Christ. That’s all. |
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^ man, just don't even. Just continue to sit back and laugh at this subforum, and contribute nothing
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I'm far from the only poster here on the left, and as I implied, you can look at all the thread titles, look at who started them, and decide for yourself who's "crazy" (your words). But I'd suggest dropping the fake "fair & balanced" pretense. ![]() |
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Fake pretense huh?? Glad you are attacking me without knowing a thing about me other then two or three posts. Last edited by Silver E90; 05-21-2012 at 05:02 PM. |
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BTW I never claimed to be playing neutral but why can't somebody "Play neutral" like you say? Why do I have to be a diehard Democrat or a diehard Republican? When can't I have views and beliefs that come from both parties? Last edited by Silver E90; 05-21-2012 at 05:20 PM. |
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Re-reading your posts, your inital post says Scotch makes you laugh because his post is not constructive. How does your post (accusing someone of not being constructive) add anything at all to the issue at hand? It doesn't seem like it does to me... You also put some words into his mouth, so of course he's going to go on the defensive... So to sum this up, he drove you to decide to post here for the first time with his "non-constructive" post (according to you), then you put words into his mouth, and call his post non-constructive (how is your post any more constructive to the issue?), and then he basically called you out on being a hypocrite (saying your post wasn't constructive). Then you seem to take offense, saying that you didn't know the forum was dedicated to him and the right wing "crazies" arguing, while essentially admitting that your own post added nothing to the thread. Then you say you like to talk politics, when there was really nothing political about your initial post, you just claimed someone wasn't being constructive. Then you finally take a stab at Obama, perpetuating these labels on him as the "savior" and the "anti-Christ." Am I right so far? There's nothing wrong with having ideals from both ends of the spectrum. I have a lot of those... But your post to Scotch was easily seen as just an attack on him for no real reason at all, with a false pretense of being "neutral," then a nice little stab at the end to the current administration (which you know he favors based on his posts). I'll be the first to admit, none of my posts in this subforum are constructive to any of the threads usually. This whole post adds nothing to the debate on the issue at hand (the reason the thread was created). But can you see how you basically attacked him, while being a bit of a hypocrite?
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As I've said before, I don't start threads or agendas. I post in defense of facts vs opinion. Here are your subtle attacks: You:You are characterizing Obama as a president that cannot do wrong, and then attack Romney as a guy that can’t do anything right. Its post like these that are not constructive at all. Me: You took a single post of mine, exaggerated it to make me look like a partisan sheep rather than a thinking person, by claiming a platitude which I never stated, and then knocked it down (not constructive). So now you're the observant, neutral guy who comes along and sees this ugly partisan stuff going on. You: And don’t get me wrong these posts come from both sides. Me: This is your fair & balanced pretense; you say it's both sides, but you only criticize my post. You: I’d like to think that there could be more positive discussions about this topic but I know when you talk about politics that doesn’t happen. And for the record I’m a registered Republican, but my views have evolved over the years. Me: More fair & balanced pretense. You're the "Washington outsider", right? So that's it, how'd I do? ![]() |
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Yea, you're more a "sit back and let other people make points about how horrific Obama has done as President and either find something to pedantically pick apart about what they said or just plain insult them" kind of guy. More of a defensive offense, if you will.
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How is that a stab at Obama that I said some believe he is the Savior and some believe he is the anti-Christ? He's not responsible for how people react to him. So to say that was stab at him, I think is a reach. He has be condescending and combative in everyone of his post to me, even after I said I wasn't attacking him or his beliefs. And I would love to know what words I put in his mouth. I think you guys are making a lot of assumptions about me and my beliefs based on past members coming in here and just attacking people with different views. None of which I have done. |
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I don't "sit back", it's a public forum, I have no control over the posts made here. But if your debating tactic is to come here and paint an all-encompassing "horrific" picture, I call bullshit and say give us some facts. After all, you left out the part where I work from facts, as opposed to your penchant for rage-filled propaganda. |
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And again why bring Romney up in a discussion about mid-term elections and their effects on the siting President? That was my point. "So now you're the observant, neutral guy who comes along and sees this ugly partisan stuff going on." Why the continued condescending attacks? Quote:
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You're assuming that's how I see myself? I'm just somebody that half-heartly follows politics and watches Fox News, MSNBC & CNN in the evenings when the Sox have a day off. Never have and never will act like I know everything about politics or issues. |
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