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      04-28-2012, 06:34 AM   #1
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I'm considering jumping the ship,, please stop me

Let me start by saying that I'm not trying to start another M3 vs GTR thread. I am genuinely asking for objective advices. Those of you who drove GTR, please respond.
So basically I've been thinking of GTR a lot lately. Even it's looks that used to not do it for me, started to be appealing to me. I've owned my 2011 M3 for 2 years and put 42K miles on it. I kinda feel the need to change. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my M3, it's my DD even though I had a second car which I donated to my exwife since I was not driving it despite $500-600 gas/month on the M
Please give me some reasons why I shouldn't jump the ship. I have a feeling that 6 months into the GTR and after the wow factor goes away, I'll miss my M3. I can't own both cause it'll put some strain on my finance (child support eats about 30% of my income).
The most I enjoy in driving is cornering fast and taking c shaped hwy exits fast. I don't have the guts to keep my traction on MDM all the time and I have a feeling the GTR will offer more cornering traction/speed despite DSC beeping on. (BTW, DSC saved my life 3 days ago when a young Asian female stopped on the hwy while I'm driving 75mph behind her, I had to weave and made 4 half donuts in the middle of the hwy alternating directions and ended up in the correct direction in the middle of the correct lane)
I keep my M on > 4K RPM most of the time and can extract power instantaneously most of the time but I wouldn't mind some more low end torque.
Something to consider is that knowing how much mileage I put on my M, I just bought a $5100 extended warranty (6/100,00). You'd think that alone should keep me from trading it but I have to say, the drooling factor on the GTR still there!!
I have not test drove a GTR yet for 2 reasons, I think it'll be hard to do that at a dealer and the second most important reasons is that I could make an impulsive decision if I liked it (have a feeling I would)
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      04-28-2012, 06:50 AM   #2
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1) GTR is best enjoyed on a track
2) anything goes wrong after warranty, you are in a bad place
3) anything goes wrong in the warranty period, you may still be in a bad place
4) $2000 services
5) not a daily driver, unless you can enjoy an elise as a daily driver....

other than that, it is an awesome car!!!
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      04-28-2012, 07:48 AM   #3
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I recommend you save your money and find a nice partner to get your mind off the GTR. You just spend a bunch of cash on the extended warranty, you know what you now have and you know you like it.

Think of all the good things you can do with that extra cash and what you would loose if you give up your M3 now.

Make a list of the Pros and Cons then the answer what direction to go will easaly be very clear to you.

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Read this post: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=681599
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      04-28-2012, 10:13 AM   #6
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Variety is the spice of life, sounds like you drove the shit out of the M3. Switch it up, i get bored after 10k in one car.
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      04-28-2012, 10:21 AM   #7
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Regardless of how awesome the GT-R may be under the hood, to me it looks butt-ugly, and mostly because of its butt .
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I alternate between my 2011 E90 M3 and my 2012 GT-R Black Edition commuting to work. Generally, I drive the M3 3 or 4 days, and the GT-R 1 or 2 days a week. The M3 is more comfortable, and better in traffic where you can't go fast anyway. On weekends, it is a no brainer. I drive the GT-R. You cannot even compare the performance and traction of the two. The M3 feels incredibly underpowered by comparison, and the back slides all over the place if you power around a corner. On the other hand, that sliding around stuff does make it a lot more fun if you like to throttle steer. The 2012 and higher GT-R can be made to oversteer, but the levels of grip are so high that realistically you're not going to come even close to experiencing what it can do without going to a track.

The comment above about supercharging your M3 is intriguing to me as well. If I could have my M3's comfort and livability, but GT-R levels of power that would be PERFECT.
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Regardless of how awesome the GT-R may be under the hood, to me it looks butt-ugly, and mostly because of its butt .
I feel the same way, but for me it's the front end I can't stand. Looks like a wide gaping mouth.

Side profile shape is kinda odd too IMO
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      04-28-2012, 01:39 PM   #12
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GTR has mind blowing performance but is compromised in every other way. Seriously though, this subject has:

1. been beaten to death
2. has generated some serious emotions on this forum
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On the other hand, that sliding around stuff does make it a lot more fun if you like to throttle steer. The 2012 and higher GT-R can be made to oversteer, but the levels of grip are so high that realistically you're not going to come even close to experiencing what it can do without going to a track.
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      04-28-2012, 02:32 PM   #14
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I think my GTR is a equal DD as my E46 M3. Both are stiff, but the E46 was more so. The GTR is comfy, and has all the goodies. Don't know why people think it's a bad DD.
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      04-28-2012, 03:58 PM   #15
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I say get it!

When you get tired driving the GTR, you can always either go back to an M3 or move on to a better car (next time though get a 6MT so you don't get bored with it ).

I bet you a dollar this is exactly what's gonna happen. That's just the way we are.
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A friend of mine has the GTR as a daily driver and he claims its fine. Although he often wishes he had an m3 instead when he take girls' out on dates...
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The GTR reminds me of the ugly girl that you have hot sex with...hold out for the new M3, I'll bet you'd be happier in the long run.
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Get it. I will help you snag your next ex-wife.
Just remember to factor those payments in to the cost of ownership.
P.S. I'm kidding. Happy motoring either way.
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      04-28-2012, 05:46 PM   #19
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I just bought a 2011 M3 E90 but looked at the GTR seriously before buying my 4th bmw in a row. The problem with the GTR, like the mitsubishi Evo, is that it's just all about performance. At some point, there are times where I am just driving to work or just getting to the store. An M3 or M5 is a much better balance of utility and performance. Plus with 10 grand of modification to an M3, you can run with a GTR in style and comfort. Either car is a true "driver's" choice so good luck!
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GTR = track car you can drive to work. Considering maintenance, tires, & comfort

M3 = daily driver that you can track. If you track more often it needs brakes and a set of gripper tires. Drift trainer with power on oversteer. Cant beat the V8 sound.

GTR to me sounds like an extreme overkill for his driving cloverleafs. Try tracking your m3 or buy an exhaust etc, might rekindle your love of the car.

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Let me start by saying that I'm not trying to start another M3 vs GTR thread. I am genuinely asking for objective advices. Those of you who drove GTR, please respond.
So basically I've been thinking of GTR a lot lately. Even it's looks that used to not do it for me, started to be appealing to me. I've owned my 2011 M3 for 2 years and put 42K miles on it. I kinda feel the need to change. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my M3, it's my DD even though I had a second car which I donated to my exwife since I was not driving it despite $500-600 gas/month on the M
Please give me some reasons why I shouldn't jump the ship. I have a feeling that 6 months into the GTR and after the wow factor goes away, I'll miss my M3. I can't own both cause it'll put some strain on my finance (child support eats about 30% of my income).
The most I enjoy in driving is cornering fast and taking c shaped hwy exits fast. I don't have the guts to keep my traction on MDM all the time and I have a feeling the GTR will offer more cornering traction/speed despite DSC beeping on. (BTW, DSC saved my life 3 days ago when a young Asian female stopped on the hwy while I'm driving 75mph behind her, I had to weave and made 4 half donuts in the middle of the hwy alternating directions and ended up in the correct direction in the middle of the correct lane)
I keep my M on > 4K RPM most of the time and can extract power instantaneously most of the time but I wouldn't mind some more low end torque.
Something to consider is that knowing how much mileage I put on my M, I just bought a $5100 extended warranty (6/100,00). You'd think that alone should keep me from trading it but I have to say, the drooling factor on the GTR still there!!
I have not test drove a GTR yet for 2 reasons, I think it'll be hard to do that at a dealer and the second most important reasons is that I could make an impulsive decision if I liked it (have a feeling I would)
Do it! People can talk about it 'til no end, but you gotta go through it yourself. If you regret it later, how hard is it to come back to M3? We're not talking about a permanent scar or something...


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So is M3.
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