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      09-14-2012, 08:41 AM   #1
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ICS Performance Auto Couture Dyno Day

After seeing the EAS Dyno day results Sal and I figured let's Gather a few ESS Supercharged M's and hit the Dyno and see how well us guys in the East Coast stack up and the results were nonetheless Impressive .

Lalit' VT 625

Car and Modifications:
  • ESS VT2-625 Supercharger kit @ 7.50 PSI Boost
  • Both CAT Delete
  • Innotech F1 Exhaust
  • 93 Octane
  • 6MT
Conditions:
  • Temparature:: 83.47 degrees F
  • Atmospheric pressure: 29.49 inHg
  • Humidity: 31%
  • Density Altitude: *2562 Ft.
  • SAE Correction: 1.011
  • STD Correction: *1.039
  • Uncorrected: 1.000
Results:
  • SAE Corrected: 542whp @ 8330 RPM, 370wtq @ 7615 RPM
  • STD Corrected: 554whp, 337wtq
  • Uncorrected: 536whp, 355wtq
Dyno Database:Individual Dyno Results:
The legend below has the following meaning:
  • Dyno Run: *Dyno run file
  • Timestamp
  • Temp(F) = Temperature (Farenheit)
  • RelH = Relative Humidity
  • Pressure(Hg) = Barometric Pressure
  • DA(ft) = Density Altitude
  • WHP(unc) = Uncorrected wheel horsepower
  • WTQ(unc) = Uncorrected wheel torque
  • WHP(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Horsepower using Dynojet weather station.
  • WTQ(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Torque using Dynojet weather station.

* Entry used for the Dyno Database

Graphs:

SAE-Corrected



STD-Corrected



Uncorrected




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Sal's VT650

Car and Modifications:
  • ESS VT2-650 Supercharger kit @ 8.50 PSI Boost
  • Both CAT Delete
  • Challege Race X-Pipe
  • ACM Exhaust Mod
  • 93 Octane
  • DCT
Conditions:
  • Temparature:: 82.60 degrees F
  • Atmospheric pressure: 29.49 inHg
  • Humidity: 34%
  • Density Altitude: *2518 Ft.
  • SAE Correction: 1.011
  • STD Correction: *1.039
  • Uncorrected: 1.000
Results:
  • SAE Corrected: 558whp @ 8140 RPM, 370wtq @ 7225 RPM
  • STD Corrected: 570whp, 378wtq
  • Uncorrected: 552whp, 366wtq
Dyno Database:Individual Dyno Results:
The legend below has the following meaning:
  • Dyno Run: *Dyno run file
  • Timestamp
  • Temp(F) = Temperature (Farenheit)
  • RelH = Relative Humidity
  • Pressure(Hg) = Barometric Pressure
  • DA(ft) = Density Altitude
  • WHP(unc) = Uncorrected wheel horsepower
  • WTQ(unc) = Uncorrected wheel torque
  • WHP(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Horsepower using Dynojet weather station.
  • WTQ(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Torque using Dynojet weather station.

* Entry used for the Dyno Database

Graphs:

SAE-Corrected



STD-Corrected



Uncorrected




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Jamie / Zim VT650 (These Dyno runs were logged and will be updated with charts)





Car and Modifications:
  • 2012 BMW M3
  • ESS VT2-650 Supercharger kit @ 8.5 PSI Boost
  • Primary CAT Delete
  • High Flow Secondary CAT
  • Challege X-Pipe
  • Meisterschaft HP Exhaust
  • 93 Octane
  • DCT
Conditions:

No Meth:
  • Temparature:: 86.14 degrees F
  • Atmospheric pressure: 29.51 inHg
  • Humidity: 28%
  • Density Altitude: 2701 Ft.
  • SAE Correction: 1.013
  • STD Correction: 1.041
  • Uncorrected: 1.000
Results:

No Meth:
  • SAE Corrected: 567whp @ 8140 RPM, 375wtq @ 7510 RPM
  • STD Corrected: 580whp, 383wtq
  • Uncorrected: 561whp, 370wtq

With Meth:
  • SAE Corrected: 575whp @ 8225 RPM, 382wtq @ 7430 RPM
  • STD Corrected: 587whp, 390wtq
  • Uncorrected: 568whp, 378wtq
Dyno Database:

No Meth:

With Meth:
Individual Dyno Results:
The legend below has the following meaning:
  • Dyno Run: Dyno run file
  • Timestamp
  • Temp(F) = Temperature (Farenheit)
  • RelH = Relative Humidity
  • Pressure(Hg) = Barometric Pressure
  • DA(ft) = Density Altitude
  • WHP(unc) = Uncorrected wheel horsepower
  • WTQ(unc) = Uncorrected wheel torque
  • WHP(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Horsepower using Dynojet weather station.
  • WTQ(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Torque using Dynojet weather station.

* Entry used for the Dyno Database

Graphs:
No-Meth:
SAE-Correction


STD-Correction


Uncorrected

With-Meth:
SAE-Correction


STD-Correction


Uncorrected



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We saved the best for last ....

Car and Modifications:
  • 2008 BMW M3
  • ESS VT3-700 Low Compression Engine
  • ESS VT3-700 Supercharger kit @ 11.75 PSI Boost
  • Catless
  • Modified Challege X-Pipe with 4 resonators
  • Akra Slip On
  • 93 Octane
  • 6MT
Conditions:
  • Temparature:: 79.51 degrees F
  • Atmospheric pressure: 29.47 inHg
  • Humidity: 40%
  • Density Altitude: *2360 Ft.
  • SAE Correction: 1.009
  • STD Correction: *1.037
  • Uncorrected: 1.000
Results:
  • SAE Corrected: 624whp @ 7700 RPM, 428wtq @ 7610 RPM
  • STD Corrected: 638whp, 437wtq
  • Uncorrected: 618whp, 424wtq
Dyno Database:
Individual Dyno Results:

The legend below has the following meaning:
  • Dyno Run: *Dyno run file
  • Timestamp
  • Temp(F) = Temperature (Farenheit)
  • RelH = Relative Humidity
  • Pressure(Hg) = Barometric Pressure
  • DA(ft) = Density Altitude
  • WHP(unc) = Uncorrected wheel horsepower
  • WTQ(unc) = Uncorrected wheel torque
  • WHP(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Horsepower using Dynojet weather station.
  • WTQ(SAEd) = SAE Corrected Torque using Dynojet weather station.


* Entry used for the Dyno Database

Graphs:

SAE-Corrected



STD-Corrected



Uncorrected


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Very nice. Was fun. Sorry I showed up late.
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Nice! Well put together.

Did you guys visit Mexico to do car-to-car comparisons?

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Very nice. Was fun. Sorry I showed up late.
Ironic...haha...clearly someone didn't use their power to get their on time
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Nice! Well put together.

Did you guys visit Mexico to do car-to-car comparisons?


Ironic...haha...clearly someone didn't use their power to get their on time
To be frank .... I personally was to damn freaken tired from the noise and fumes , I was high as shit , but Izzy wasn't cause he came late , dyno'd and bounced
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Cant belive im missing out on all of this!!! So sick great numbers for all cars
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To be frank .... I personally was to damn freaken tired from the noise and fumes , I was high as shit , but Izzy wasn't cause he came late , dyno'd and bounced
Oh man...I know exactly what you're talking about. First it smells good, then I'm sure I start getting dizzy at one point, haha.

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Did you guys visit Mexico to do car-to-car comparisons?


Ironic...haha...clearly someone didn't use their power to get their on time
Haha, i never use it.the car becomes useless with too much power
I was in the city having a blast
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Updated with log charts with and without meth ..
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so u don't make much more power with meth
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so u don't make much more power with meth
Honestly your car will make more power in the 50's f with out meth then with .
Meth just prevents you from heat soaking that's all...
And if there are gains there very minimal.

ESS has these cars tuned right
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Honestly your car will make more power in the 50's f with out meth then with .
Meth just prevents you from heat soaking that's all...
And if there are gains there very minimal.

ESS has these cars tuned right
on that note my kit is ordered
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Honestly your car will make more power in the 50's f with out meth then with .
Meth just prevents you from heat soaking that's all...
And if there are gains there very minimal.

ESS has these cars tuned right
I think ESS has these cars tuned right for no meth, but meth will also increase octane, allowing more ignition timing. However, without a meth-specific tune, the gains are limited since you cannot flow as much meth. The percentage of meth run is obviously also an important factor in the octane increase. Still, even with the same tune on the same car, I think a 91 octane dyno, a 93 octane dyno and a 100 octane race gas dyno would yield different numbers, with the higher octane producing the higher numbers.
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I think ESS has these cars tuned right for no meth, but meth will also increase octane, allowing more ignition timing. However, without a meth-specific tune, the gains are limited since you cannot flow as much meth. The percentage of meth run is obviously also an important factor in the octane increase. Still, even with the same tune on the same car, I think a 91 octane dyno, a 93 octane dyno and a 100 octane race gas dyno would yield different numbers, with the higher octane producing the higher numbers.
Correct. There's more power to be made, but not dependent on HAVING to run meth like other kits. The beauty of running meth with this is the added cooling benefit, no necessarily max power.
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