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      04-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #1
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pulled over for driving an M3

i was driving 30mph in a 25mph zone the other night and a cop pulled me over. he was parked facing the opposite direction at a stop sign intersection and after i fully stopped and proceeded, he made a U turn and pulled me over after following me for a block (300-400ft). he claimed i was going 40 in a 25. i don't know the point of the thread... just a victim of an injustice venting.
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      04-06-2012, 10:18 AM   #2
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Were you ticketed?
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      04-06-2012, 10:58 AM   #4
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And he was basing this on..... ?
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      04-06-2012, 11:00 AM   #5
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go to court fight for it never hurts did he radar you? If not then no proof. You are off
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Fight that ish.

Senior citizen couple in Ontario got a ticket recently for driving while using a cellphone....despite the fact that neither of them have ever owned a cell phone.

Every precinct in every jurisdiction has quotas....don't let'em get away with it.
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      04-06-2012, 11:10 AM   #7
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Set court date.
Go to court.
If no radar/lidar - go home happy (no foundation (proof))
If supposed radar/lidar reading exists - ask judge for a charging instrument - go home happy. (of course this requires that you don't enter a plea of any kind during the initial arraignment... you'll have to do a bit of homework here regarding contracting with the court and waiving certain rights etc.)

The end.
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      04-06-2012, 11:11 AM   #8
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depending on how reasonable the judge feels, even if you were driving 5mph over, it's still speeding by the books. Sucks that you have to waste half a day to go to court over this.
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      04-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #9
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"you were doing 55 in a 54"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      04-06-2012, 11:37 AM   #10
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depending on how reasonable the judge feels, even if you were driving 5mph over, it's still speeding by the books. Sucks that you have to waste half a day to go to court over this.
Only if those books have a traffic survey done to establish the prima facie limit within the last 5 years. Otherwise it's - go home happy.

Agreed on sucks to waste half a day in court though.
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I have had few speeding tickets but those I have I gave to my attorney. 300 bucks and it goes away without wasting a chunk of the day in court. I don't know what they (attorneys) do but he said the basic concept is these minor tickets are revenue generation and he makes it so that the costs would exceed the payoff and they drop it. Business is business.
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Quotas are against the law. There are some asshole cops out there tho.
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      04-06-2012, 11:38 AM   #13
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Quotas are against the law. There are some asshole cops out there tho.


But there are some cool ones too!
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go to court fight for it never hurts did he radar you? If not then no proof. You are off
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Set court date.
Go to court.
If no radar/lidar - go home happy (no foundation (proof))
If supposed radar/lidar reading exists - ask judge for a charging instrument - go home happy. (of course this requires that you don't enter a plea of any kind during the initial arraignment... you'll have to do a bit of homework here regarding contracting with the court and waiving certain rights etc.)

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Neither one of these are 100% correct each state is different regarding speeding laws and each county in has it's own set of rules. In several state police officer receive special training on how to judge speed, also if he had camera in his patrol car and had it on while behind you and it shows the speed he was doing to keep pace or catch up and it's over the speed limit your done.

So do your research first to find out the local laws were you live and hire good lawyer that specialize in speeding tkts a lot of times they can get tkt moved to non moving violation no points just fine or if that fails a reduction on the points good luck.
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      04-06-2012, 11:43 AM   #15
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I don't know what they (attorneys) do but he said the basic concept is these minor tickets are revenue generation and he makes it so that the costs would exceed the payoff and they drop it.
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Neither one of these are 100% correct each state is different regarding speeding laws and each county in has it's own set of rules. In several state police officer receive special training on how to judge speed, also if he had camera in his patrol car and had it on while behind you and it shows the speed he was doing to keep pace or catch up and it's over the speed limit your done.

So do your research first to find out the local laws were you live and hire good lawyer that specialize in speeding tkts a lot of times they can get tkt moved to non moving violation no points just fine or if that fails a reduction on the points good luck.
Agreed. I don't think that he would have been 'paced' as he saw the guy come out with a u-turn and start following him. I mean at that point it was probably the speed limit until the overhead lights went on.

Of course.. the cop can say whatever he wants.
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I don't know what they (attorneys) do but he said the basic concept is these minor tickets are revenue generation and he makes it so that the costs would exceed the payoff and they drop it.
So on our part, it's just pay to play then? Sounds about right
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"you were doing 55 in a 54"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was actually pulled over in Nashville for speeding many years back in my Ford Bronco. The cop came up to the car and asked for my license and insurance. At the time, I had an expired Texas lic but with my mil ID it was still valid. I gave him everything and when he saw the mil ID he smiled, told me to slow down because going 56 in a 55 was frowned upon in his city, and he let me go...
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      04-06-2012, 12:06 PM   #19
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I was actually pulled over in Nashville for speeding many years back in my Ford Bronco. The cop came up to the car and asked for my license and insurance. At the time, I had an expired Texas lic but with my mil ID it was still valid. I gave him everything and when he saw the mil ID he smiled, told me to slow down because going 56 in a 55 was frowned upon in his city, and he let me go...
i showed him a fireman ID and it didn't make a diff. if it wasn't speeding he would have made something up, like excessive engine noise or some bs. it was pretty much like paying a toll to cross him.

i payed a lawyer $375 and whatever court fees are involved...
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i showed him a fireman ID and it didn't make a diff. if it wasn't speeding he would have made something up, like excessive engine noise or some bs. it was pretty much like paying a toll to cross him.

i payed a lawyer $375 and whatever court fees are involved...
Where was this so we can avoid going through this town as much as possible
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I was actually pulled over in Nashville for speeding many years back in my Ford Bronco. The cop came up to the car and asked for my license and insurance. At the time, I had an expired Texas lic but with my mil ID it was still valid. I gave him everything and when he saw the mil ID he smiled, told me to slow down because going 56 in a 55 was frowned upon in his city, and he let me go...
That's nuts. Good to know I'm going to be visiting Nashville soon.
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Neither one of these are 100% correct each state is different regarding speeding laws and each county in has it's own set of rules. In several state police officer receive special training on how to judge speed, also if he had camera in his patrol car and had it on while behind you and it shows the speed he was doing to keep pace or catch up and it's over the speed limit your done.

So do your research first to find out the local laws were you live and hire good lawyer that specialize in speeding tkts a lot of times they can get tkt moved to non moving violation no points just fine or if that fails a reduction on the points good luck.
+1, cops are "trained observers". He can visually judge your speed and it holds weight in court.
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