AD08 or PSS??

tvieso · 03-18-2012, 09:58 AM

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

M3SQRD · 03-18-2012, 12:13 PM

AD08 for all out dry performance. They will have a slightly harsher ride due to stiffer sidewall, compromised wet performance due to maximized contact patch surface area, and fewer miles before needing to be replaced.

PSS for a better "overall" tire. It won't have the same level of dry performance but much better wet performance and a more comfortable ride. Also, you should get more miles out of them before they need to be replaced.

Not too long ago I was comparing these two tires and I ended up going with the PSS. Compared to the OEM PS2 the PSS performs much better in the dry and wet. The sidewall is a little on the soft side compared to extreme performance tires - it doesn't seem to have a huge impact on performance but it definitely does improve ride quality.

tvieso · 03-18-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnes

AD08 for all out dry performance. They will have a slightly harsher ride due to stiffer sidewall, compromised wet performance due to maximized contact patch surface area, and fewer miles before needing to be replaced.

PSS for a better "overall" tire. It won't have the same level of dry performance but much better wet performance and a more comfortable ride. Also, you should get more miles out of them before they need to be replaced.

Not too long ago I was comparing these two tires and I ended up going with the PSS. Compared to the OEM PS2 the PSS performs much better in the dry and wet. The sidewall is a little on the soft side compared to extreme performance tires - it doesn't seem to have a huge impact on performance but it definitely does improve ride quality.

Fantastic info! Thank you.

M3SQRD · 03-18-2012, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvieso

Fantastic info! Thank you.

signes · 03-18-2012, 10:21 PM

Agree with dbarnes, although the wet performance ding that AD08s get around here is unjustified IMO. I have no complaints about wet weather grip, although have not done wet laps on a track with them. I am even running pretty wide at 275-295. The rest is spot on, fantastic grip but firmer than the Michelins and once worn they can get pretty loud. I will also say after looking to replace my rears, that the price delta between the AD08s v. PSS seems to have shrunk (a lot).

M3SQRD · 03-19-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by signes

Agree with dbarnes, although the wet performance ding that AD08s get around here is unjustified IMO. I have no complaints about wet weather grip, although have not done wet laps on a track with them. I am even running pretty wide at 275-295. The rest is spot on, fantastic grip but firmer than the Michelins and once worn they can get pretty loud. I will also say after looking to replace my rears, that the price delta between the AD08s v. PSS seems to have shrunk (a lot).

As for the wet performance of the AD08s perhaps "compromised" was a poor word choice. I do agree that the AD08 has OK wet performance so a better description would have been reduced wet performance compared to the PSS on the street.

HK8888 · 03-19-2012, 06:55 AM

PSS. +1

jonasaurus · 03-19-2012, 07:11 AM

For DD would definitely go with the PSS

KennyPowers · 03-19-2012, 07:16 AM

I have had PSS and "real" extreme performance summer tires in RE-11 and now RS-3 from Hankook, and I notice the difference with the more aggressive tires.

I always disliked the substantial roll of the car and the tires with stiffer sidewalls go a long way to alleviate that.

If you do spirited driving, i think its worth giving the ad08 a shot.

Team Plutonium · 03-19-2012, 08:10 AM

AD08! One of the best tires out there!

OC3 · 03-19-2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvieso

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

Based on this description, PSS.

Malek@MRF · 03-19-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvieso

I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance!

-Travis

The Michelin tires would be a better choice for your specified use.

You can also look into the Bridgestone Potenza S0-4 tires as well, as they are a great tire.

Malek

chili cheese · 03-19-2012, 02:48 PM

AD08s will get noisy and probably a bit harsher ride.

radiantm3 · 03-19-2012, 11:30 PM

I've done a couple wet track sessions with my AD08's and felt very confident with them. They do just fine in the rain IMO.

tvieso · 03-22-2012, 07:30 PM

Thanks for all the responses! I'll let you know what I end up going with.

Eric-TAIWAN · 03-24-2012, 02:26 PM

I use ad08 and I don't think it's loud at all cuz my catless is much louder

I've track wet once and it hold up pretty good!

03-18-2012, 09:58 AM	#1
tvieso Runner. Adventurer. Flyer. Drives: 2012 E92 M3 (MW) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: US - Omaha, NE Posts: 362 iTrader: (0)	AD08 or PSS?? I'm going with either AD08's or PSS's, 255/35 & 295/30. Will be on KW V3's. Price isn't an issue. DD with very spirited driving. Please let me know your recommendations. Thanks in advance! -Travis __________________ 2012 E92 M3 \| MW \| DCT \| KW V3 \| Edition Cosmetics \| 19" MORR VS8.2 - Brushed w/ Tinted Clear \| F1 Pinnacle 35%
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03-18-2012, 10:21 PM	#5
signes Brigadier General Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spinnin at 8k Posts: 3,195 iTrader: (3)	Agree with dbarnes, although the wet performance ding that AD08s get around here is unjustified IMO. I have no complaints about wet weather grip, although have not done wet laps on a track with them. I am even running pretty wide at 275-295. The rest is spot on, fantastic grip but firmer than the Michelins and once worn they can get pretty loud. I will also say after looking to replace my rears, that the price delta between the AD08s v. PSS seems to have shrunk (a lot). __________________ 08 E90 \| Jet Black / Black \| 6MT Mods: RAC RG63 w/ Pirelli Corsa 255F/285R \| Akrapovic Evo Exhaust \| OEM Blacklines Winter Setup: OEM 18s w/ Nokian Hakkapeliita R 245/40-18

03-19-2012, 07:11 AM	#8
jonasaurus Colonel Drives: 11.5 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 2,778 iTrader: (0)	For DD would definitely go with the PSS __________________ ///M3 \| E90 \| Space Grey \| Fox Red with CF Structure \| 6MT \| 260M \| My build

03-19-2012, 08:10 AM	#10
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,492 iTrader: (1)	AD08! One of the best tires out there! __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

03-19-2012, 11:30 PM	#14
radiantm3 AWD...training wheels for RWD Drives: 11 E92 M3, 13 F25 X3 xdrive35i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 3,140 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2011 E92 M3 [4.73] 2013 BMW X3 xdrive35 [4.50]	I've done a couple wet track sessions with my AD08's and felt very confident with them. They do just fine in the rain IMO. __________________ 2011.5 E92 M3 6MT / 45,000+ miles / 3400lbs with no driver, half tank / M3 GTS Aero, Rear Seat Delete, Half Cage • Schroth 6 Point Harness • Recaro Profi • 18" BBS FI / 18" TE37SL Black Edition • Ohlins RT • Vorshlag Camber Plates • Brembo 380GT • Endless Pads • Akrapovic Evo • RD Sport Sways • ESS Tune • Supercharger Delete (1:42 @ Laguna Seca, 2:09 @ Thunderhill, 1:56 @ Infineon)

03-18-2012, 12:13 PM	#2
M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,347 iTrader: (2)	AD08 for all out dry performance. They will have a slightly harsher ride due to stiffer sidewall, compromised wet performance due to maximized contact patch surface area, and fewer miles before needing to be replaced. PSS for a better "overall" tire. It won't have the same level of dry performance but much better wet performance and a more comfortable ride. Also, you should get more miles out of them before they need to be replaced. Not too long ago I was comparing these two tires and I ended up going with the PSS. Compared to the OEM PS2 the PSS performs much better in the dry and wet. The sidewall is a little on the soft side compared to extreme performance tires - it doesn't seem to have a huge impact on performance but it definitely does improve ride quality.

03-19-2012, 06:55 AM	#7
HK8888 Captain Drives: '08 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 886 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 M3 Coupe [5.00]	PSS. +1

03-19-2012, 07:16 AM	#9
KennyPowers Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 1,872 iTrader: (11)	I have had PSS and "real" extreme performance summer tires in RE-11 and now RS-3 from Hankook, and I notice the difference with the more aggressive tires. I always disliked the substantial roll of the car and the tires with stiffer sidewalls go a long way to alleviate that. If you do spirited driving, i think its worth giving the ad08 a shot.

03-19-2012, 02:48 PM	#13
chili cheese Captain Drives: '11 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern CA Posts: 849 iTrader: (2)	AD08s will get noisy and probably a bit harsher ride.

03-22-2012, 07:30 PM	#15
tvieso Runner. Adventurer. Flyer. Drives: 2012 E92 M3 (MW) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: US - Omaha, NE Posts: 362 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the responses! I'll let you know what I end up going with. __________________ 2012 E92 M3 \| MW \| DCT \| KW V3 \| Edition Cosmetics \| 19" MORR VS8.2 - Brushed w/ Tinted Clear \| F1 Pinnacle 35%

03-24-2012, 02:26 PM	#16
Eric-TAIWAN Private Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Taiwan Posts: 74 iTrader: (0)	I use ad08 and I don't think it's loud at all cuz my catless is much louder I've track wet once and it hold up pretty good!

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