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      03-08-2012, 08:18 AM   #23
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U Mad Bro??
you may be right maybe nothing will change but this "guy" went and made this video for awareness pretty sure thats more than you and I have done and the time you took to complain doesn't help the situation either, coulda easily just reposted it for the sake of human sympathy for those suffering
If you wanted to learn about what was happening you could have just read a book. (Not saying at all you dont read) This has been happening to their country for hundreds of years. Koney cant be that old.

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^ Stoutnj89 should most likely be sent over to Uganda. What is wrong with him making a film to spread awareness and spread hope that this can end soon? Im sure you have lived such a sheltered life and cant even fathom what kind of horrors go on over there. Just because you have known about this for years doesn't mean others have as well and are just now choosing to show interest because a movie was made about it, for me and others it was an eye opener on what really happens in countries less privileged than our own.
Haha.. When I was 12 I would help my Dad load his MP5 before he would do drug raids to arrest people. I am very aware of what goes on in the world and it takes more than a video and money to fix things.

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This is pretty much the gist of the movie "Lord of War"...watch it and you'll see what I mean. It's sad but unfortunately this guy is mostly right.
Thanks, Im not trying to be a jerk.. Its the way things have ben going for years. By the way I own that movie.

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Im with you completely, this is ridiculous. I donated to this cause for invisible children and uganda in 2009. isnt it funny how when something gets "famous" , then everybody cares?
Thats all Im saying thanks..

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WOW!

Another spoiled little-boy comment. Just keep your head buried deep in the comfortable, cozy, selfish sand. Good thing the bravest, most courageous generation didn't share your beliefs when Hitler was in power. Maybe at this point there's a big chasm between the Hitlers of the world and the Koneys of the world. So keep driving around in your shiny BMW oblivious, no ignorant, of the pure evil in the world, but remember 911. Maybe we should have just said, "Aww shucks, why go after Bin Laden, someone else will take his spot."

To have the defeatest attitude of "Someone else will take Koney's spot..." is truly sad. I'm embarrassed for your selfish ass. Be grateful, deeply grateful, there are people in the world, in this nation who protect your ass. No one, not even BMW owners like you are immune to having all that we enjoy in this world taken away in a flash by people just like Koney.

Okay, I'm done now.
No cus when Hitler was in power we took up arms and kicked ass... We did not just donate money..

If you knew me or my Dad you sound foolish.. Haha
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      03-08-2012, 09:05 AM   #24
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Why is this in General Automotive?
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Any money that we send there the Ugandan Govt/ military is going to take.
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And who's to say they're any better than this guy? What ever happened with Darfur? All fixed up? I don't think so... Ethiopia? Oh yeah... We rolled in there like the Griswolds rolled into St.Louis.
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Exactly. I don't want them to be funded, they are just as corrupt.
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All the guys above at this page: Agreed.

This is a very hypocritic(?) thread and movie if you ask me, me coming from a country who donates more money per person living here than anywhere in the world to this shit. Not giving one euro at all. Been there done that. Waste of money and waste of time. I know what I'm talking about....

Two years ago: The earthquake disaster in Haiti(which before the distaster already was in chaos for decades, I've been there twice) . Dutch government and TV canals arranged a TV programme/quizz and people donated money, about Euro 50,000,000 in one night(including my wife's 50 euros LOL) and the dutch minister of welfare and third world development doubled it with our taxmoney to 110 milion euros. It's still a chaos and only 10 milion euros reached the goal . The rest was 'gone' into corruption and oblivion. Think about it.

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This same video in 1985 would be about Afghanistan and how we need to donate money to help them get rid of the Russians.
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Or Rwanda in 94.
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this is not necessarily about raising money as much as it is about raising awareness.
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About what? The video was made eons ago. Today Kony is on his last leg and the LRA isn't even really active in Uganda anymore.
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this is not necessarily about raising money as much as it is about raising awareness.
They are trying to raise awareness in order to raise money to try to make a difference. I don't think there is a person in this country who thinks that sub-Saharan Africa is all puppies and rainbows. The place is a disaster and hipsters can't fix it. It is a struggle for power that spans from one ocean to the other and when you take one iconic figure out, another one is happy to step into his shoes and build his own legacy.
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They are trying to raise awareness in order to raise money to try to make a difference. I don't think there is a person in this country who thinks that sub-Saharan Africa is all puppies and rainbows. The place is a disaster and hipsters can't fix it. It is a struggle for power that spans from one ocean to the other and when you take one iconic figure out, another one is happy to step into his shoes and build his own legacy.


The same goes for example Fidel/Raul Castro,Chavez,Amedinejad. Take them out and the next idiot is already waiting for it to take the power, often in a worse manner.

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I think this campaign has been already successful. we are talking about it, aren't we? and did any of this cost anything? no! yes there will always be some thug trying to replace the last one but if we let these people get away with impunity then the next one will be a shoe in. so by the same argument some of you are making, if there was a thug living on your block you would just let them be because there will always be another one waiting to take his place? what kind of a neighborhood would that be? I know the place is not all puppies and rainbows but where is? this is the eternal struggle between good and evil and if you just throw your hands up and give up, then you might as well grab your ankles and kiss your ass goodbye. as far as the hipsters making a difference, I am not exactly ready to drop down to my knees and suck their dicks but didn't their efforts to raise awareness finally pay off with them now controlling their own destiny? I know they have a long way to go but they are on their way. we are all in the age of enlightenment and we can see that by what's going on around the world. people are fed up and they won't take it anymore and sometimes they just need a hero to save the day. come on guys show some compassion
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You're comparing lawless Africa, which lacks just about every major component of a real infrastructure, to a thug on my block in the US? I think that's a bit of a stretch. They are trying to put out a wildfire that spans a continent with the equivalent of a super soaker. Short of full fledged ground war, all of this is just as you say... raised awareness and lots of talk. Uganda had an Army that has been unsuccessful up to this point. Now they have their army plus 100 US troops who are not their to pick up guns and they still can't find this guy. When that "good" army takes over, who's to say they won't be hacking up villagers and raping women? We've been down this road before...
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They are trying to raise awareness in order to raise money to try to make a difference. I don't think there is a person in this country who thinks that sub-Saharan Africa is all puppies and rainbows. The place is a disaster and hipsters can't fix it. It is a struggle for power that spans from one ocean to the other and when you take one iconic figure out, another one is happy to step into his shoes and build his own legacy.
I couldn't have said it any better...
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first of all irregardless of your opinions i thank you guys for taking the time to actually assess the situation check out this video i just found

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...YA0wFQbHvPf863
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first of all irregardless of your opinions i thank you guys for taking the time to actually assess the situation check out this video i just found

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...YA0wFQbHvPf863
Whatever helps you sleep at night.. And why the hell is it on World Star hip hop..?? A really trashy website..
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.. And why the hell is it on World Star hip hop..?? A really trashy website..
dude, seriously pitiful! what are you trying to prove? we already figured you don't give a rats ass so move on to subjects that interests you
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I just don't understand the rational that an evil individual shouldn't be eliminated simply because someone else will take his place. Makes no sense!

Sort of like saying, "Why cure breast cancer? There will just be something else that will kill a woman." Or, "Why cure prostate cancer? You'll just die of some other cancer."

STUPID!

What this boils down to is: This evil African guy isn't threatening me, so why should I give a crap? A classic "me, me, me; it's all about me" attitude.

And so what if there's an avalanche of media coverage? Does that make it any more or less a problem? A problem is a problem regardless of whether you hear it from Fox News or a girl scout.

I would agree with those who question where the money goes. But I think this is much more about awareness than money. And yes, people should do a little research and listen to both sides before sending off their hard-earned money to a cause.

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dude, seriously pitiful! what are you trying to prove? we already figured you don't give a rats ass so move on to subjects that interests you
Nothing.. Just the fact that people have known about this forever and now just because you saw the effects of it you want to help.

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I just don't understand the rational that an evil individual shouldn't be eliminated simply because someone else will take his place. Makes no sense!

Sort of like saying, "Why cure breast cancer? There will just be something else that will kill a woman." Or, "Why cure prostate cancer? You'll just die of some other cancer."

STUPID!

What this boils down to is: This evil African guy isn't threatening me, so why should I give a crap? A classic "me, me, me; it's all about me" attitude.

And so what if there's an avalanche of media coverage? Does that make it any more or less a problem? A problem is a problem regardless of whether you hear it from Fox News or a girl scout.

I would agree with those who question where the money goes. But I think this is much more about awareness than money. And yes, people should do a little research and listen to both sides before sending off their hard-earned money to a cause.

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I agree with you last 2 paragraphs. But Im saying it takes more than getting rid of one person. (You need to get rid of more than one guy). Im not saying dont have a solution, it should be better than this. The country as a whole is a disaster. Also I have cared long before this video too.


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I just don't understand the rational that an evil individual shouldn't be eliminated simply because someone else will take his place. Makes no sense!

Sort of like saying, "Why cure breast cancer? There will just be something else that will kill a woman." Or, "Why cure prostate cancer? You'll just die of some other cancer."

STUPID!

What this boils down to is: This evil African guy isn't threatening me, so why should I give a crap? A classic "me, me, me; it's all about me" attitude.

And so what if there's an avalanche of media coverage? Does that make it any more or less a problem? A problem is a problem regardless of whether you hear it from Fox News or a girl scout.

I would agree with those who question where the money goes. But I think this is much more about awareness than money. And yes, people should do a little research and listen to both sides before sending off their hard-earned money to a cause.

My three cents.
Of course we care. The guy is a nightmare. What this actually boils down to, however, is that there is an entire continent full of people like him so removing him won't accomplish anything but wasted resources. Any money we send which slips through the fingers of the IC fat cats is going to fund genocide and people exactly like him. Any awareness that we raise about him is near-pointless because it is like blaming all of Africa's human rights crime on one guy (one who isn't even a major player anymore). There are equally heinous crimes being committed by other leaders but nobody is lighting them up on Facebook. They are getting away with murder while this goes on.

I'm all about human rights and I feel for the kids still affected by Kony of course, but the "stop Kony" movement is a huge waste of time. You are trying to stop a problem perpetrated by half a continent by capturing one of them and paying the rest. This whole situation is just a bandwagon which the trendy kids have jumped on without doing any research. Nobody gave a fuck about Kony three days ago; nobody will in three months. It is unfortunately just a fad. Such a willfully ignorant spread of information is not only unhelpful to this "cause" but in all likelihood detrimental to it. My suspicion is that if these hipsters ACTUALLY gave a shit then they would have done some research.
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