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      09-14-2012, 01:34 AM   #1
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any experience with the Camaro ZL1?

Hey Guys

I know, not a lot muscle-car lover here, but I really love the look of the new Camaro ZL1. I know, poor interior, but great engine and the suspension from the ZR1...

so did somebody have any driving experience with this beast?



by the way: a Camaro is really a rare car here in Switzerland, a M3 not.... also M3's have a bad image here (lot of 20-year-old-wannabe-gangstas idiots drive M3s here...)
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      09-14-2012, 08:38 AM   #2
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No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night...

Are you considering replacing your M with the ZL1 or it would be an addition? I respect the hell out of the performance of the ZL1 but I'm not sure I would get rid of my M for one.
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      09-14-2012, 08:57 AM   #3
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I would get a Z06 over a ZL1.
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I would get a Z06 over a ZL1.
Good point. Or if you just want brute force get the gt500
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      09-14-2012, 09:06 AM   #5
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Hey Guys

I know, not a lot muscle-car lover here, but I really love the look of the new Camaro ZL1. I know, poor interior, but great engine and the suspension from the ZR1...

so did somebody have any driving experience with this beast?



by the way: a Camaro is really a rare car here in Switzerland, a M3 not.... also M3's have a bad image here (lot of 20-year-old-wannabe-gangstas idiots drive M3s here...)
I had the opportunity to check out the ZL1 up close. Honestly I was drueling a bit. I too have a love for camaros but with the ZL1 I feel like they took its looks to a whole new level. Also, the interior in my opinion was really cool and didnt seem to be as cheap as everyone claims - its not the quality our M3s are but it was still real nice. The only downside to the car was when I sat in the drivers seat it felt huge compared to our M, and I happen to like the smaller feel. Also it was a little tough to see out of some of the windows. Now if I could have only driven it and given you an opinion on that. My opinions are derived purely from looks and getting to sit in one. Has anyone here gotten to drive one yet?
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      09-14-2012, 10:02 AM   #6
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No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night...

Are you considering replacing your M with the ZL1 or it would be an addition? I respect the hell out of the performance of the ZL1 but I'm not sure I would get rid of my M for one.
it would be a replacing.

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I would get a Z06 over a ZL1.
i need/want four seats, so no Z06 for me.

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Good point. Or if you just want brute force get the gt500
dont like the look of the GT500
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The ZL1 is badass. It looks mean, sounds mean, and means business on the track. For a heavy car, it is very well balanced and capable. Excellent braking and handling. I say, do it
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i need/want four seats, so no Z06 for me.
The back seats are in no way practical. Any child outside of a car seat won't fit in the back on the Camaro.
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The back seats are in no way practical. Any child outside of a car seat won't fit in the back on the Camaro.
I fit back there OK.

I'm only 5'8" though.
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      09-14-2012, 11:41 PM   #11
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No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night...

Are you considering replacing your M with the ZL1 or it would be an addition? I respect the hell out of the performance of the ZL1 but I'm not sure I would get rid of my M for one.


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i'm a chevy guy but the ZL1 is just too slow in a straightline with all its power, balanced handling or not. IMHO.
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119 trap is slow?
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      09-15-2012, 03:22 PM   #14
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I fit back there OK.

I'm only 5'8" though.
Yeah but how small was the passenger sitting in front of you?
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If I was in the market for a car right now, I would probably pick the ZL1 over the M3. It is a lot more car for the money and it actually has a decent suspension unlike the GT500.
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If I was in the market for a car right now, I would probably pick the ZL1 over the M3. It is a lot more car for the money and it actually has a decent suspension unlike the GT500.
I am in the market right now for an M3 and there isn't a chance in hell that I am looking at a Chevy Camaro as a comparison. To have to sit in that thing and look at those goofy dials/junk plastic interior and then park it and have to look at the cartoon like exterior. No thanks. I've had my fill of Gov't Motors products.
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ZL1 is CTS-V motor, not ZR1 motor... LSA vs. LS9.

Still a great car... I like the styling of the Camaro... but the GT500 is just a beast... tough decision. Seeing out of the Camaro is difficult, and trunk space is pretty small.

Good luck with your decision!
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So i testdrive a ZL1 last weekend:

Interior: not that bad, never a M3 interior, but good for a Muscel-Car. the windows are very small, like a chopped feeling in it. but the seats are not good, i think i'm too small for it...

Power: car pulls like hell, but i just pull it to 4000rpm, cause it was a new car.

Brake: Brembo BBK.... great!

Handling/Suspension: well, it's good, but you feel the heavy weight of the car. really bad are the steering. it feels sooo indirect! horrible! a Hyundai have the better steering than this car!


over all, i will keep my M3. it's way the better car, also a ZL1 isnt cheap here in Switzerland.
the ZL1 isnt a bad car, but if you want a great balance car like the M3, you need to put al dot of $$$ in it.
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      09-17-2012, 02:13 PM   #19
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Good thing you stuck with the M, though if you're intent on replacing it, I do agree with the guy who said to get a CTS-V.
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ZL1?

Why not go with the current ZR1 and call it a day? F the ZO6. ZR1 and be done.
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ZL1?

Why not go with the current ZR1 and call it a day? F the ZO6. ZR1 and be done.
He said he needed 4 seats
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He said he needed 4 seats

that's right.


dont like the look of the CTS-V.
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