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      03-01-2012, 06:32 PM   #23
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Its interesting to see this point of view on the Akro. What would you guys say about the full AA system in comparison?

I'm sure not everyone has had a chance to experience them, but those who have, how would you describe them in comparison to the Akro?
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      03-01-2012, 08:14 PM   #24
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I paid for the 50lbs diet and extra power. The sound it makes is just a bonus. I think it sounds good from the inside, amazing from the outside. Any louder and it would become obnoxious for a daily driver.
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      03-01-2012, 10:21 PM   #25
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I paid for the 50lbs diet and extra power. The sound it makes is just a bonus. I think it sounds good from the inside, amazing from the outside. Any louder and it would become obnoxious for a daily driver.
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I've had my Akra Evo setup on for a few days, and while the fit and finish of the exhaust is excellent, I'm a bit bummed out by the sound. Don't get me wrong, it sounds fine, and if it were my first exhaust I would surely be very happy. However, coming from an Eisenmann Sport I can't help but feel the Akra is just a bit soulless. To me it's just a hollow, empty sound that lacks character.

I'm going to give it another week or two to see if it grows on me, but right now I'm leaning towards picking up a Challenge xpipe and putting the Eisenmann back on.

I don't see many people here who aren't in love with the Akra, so maybe I'm just crazy.
Sounds like you just like 'look at me' loud
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      03-01-2012, 10:29 PM   #27
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Almost pulled the trigger on the full Akra. After reading this thread, I am SO glad I didn't do it! I would be canceling that order! Although I'm sure it's a great system, I do not like the "Hollow" sound that a lot of current and past owners refer to.
Go with the full Dinan system, no drone and has an amazing tone. The quad resonated x pipe paired with their mufflers is the perfect combo IMO
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      03-01-2012, 10:31 PM   #28
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Sounds like you just like 'look at me' loud
Right...because the Eis Sport just makes your ears bleed.
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Right...because the Eis Sport just makes your ears bleed.
Coming from the GT2, I'm hoping the Eisenmann Sport & Challenge Sport will be the right combination.
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      03-02-2012, 02:27 AM   #30
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i also have eisenmann sport and currently looking to go cat less. Anyone recommendation? I want some thing louder but not too loud.
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      03-02-2012, 03:38 AM   #31
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Go with the full Dinan system, no drone and has an amazing tone. The quad resonated x pipe paired with their mufflers is the perfect combo IMO
I had Dinan on my 335 and loved the sound. Their exhaust sounds great, although I can't get past only having 2 active tips, especially being in cold climate where it would be more noticeable. I also had a bad experience with the last round of Dinan mods... but that's another story.
I ended up pulling the trigger with Gintani. I went with the 4 resonated X-Pipe and the sport exhaust with a valve, it's suppose to remove a majority of the drone when the valve is closed.
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I'd be happy to take it off your hands. I will trade you for my Eisenmann Race with MXP x-pipe with HFCs.
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I think you can try Fabspeed xpipe with miesterschaft GT2 exhaust , that may make you crazy of its sound ! I love loud and powerful sound !
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I bought my Evol system used, but I imagine it requires some time to break-in?

My car is the perfect volume at hard acceleration and perfect at cruise. It turns plenty of heads anymore would be too much for me.

I heel-toed into a gas station yesterday and while I was filling up, three cars finished filling and rev'ed the $hit out of their cars on the way out. So the Akra must have left an impression.
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Interesting point of view, I don't think the akra evo is the best sounding exhaust, but probably the best engineered exhaust.

I remember the eisenmann race I had on my old car sounded awesome but it was just too loud inside and hopeless for high speed cruising. Whereas I find the akra evo I have on my new M3 is still quite loud outside but with almost no drone inside. I find this particularly handy when driving in Malaysia where we cruise on the highway at 200km/h. I remember the eisenmann would get far too annoying sitting on anything over 130km/h - plus the amount of low end torque you lose with the eisenmann is horrible.

The extra power is noticeable with the akra too which is nice, as is the reduction in weight!
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Interesting point of view, I don't think the akra evo is the best sounding exhaust, but probably the best engineered exhaust.

I remember the eisenmann race I had on my old car sounded awesome but it was just too loud inside and hopeless for high speed cruising. Whereas I find the akra evo I have on my new M3 is still quite loud outside but with almost no drone inside. I find this particularly handy when driving in Malaysia where we cruise on the highway at 200km/h. I remember the eisenmann would get far too annoying sitting on anything over 130km/h - plus the amount of low end torque you lose with the eisenmann is horrible.

The extra power is noticeable with the akra too which is nice, as is the reduction in weight!
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      03-02-2012, 02:02 PM   #37
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Go with the full Dinan system, no drone and has an amazing tone. The quad resonated x pipe paired with their mufflers is the perfect combo IMO
Def. Dinan full setup has amazing tone and very different from just Dinan muffler only setup. I really loved sound of my previous Dinan full setup (just didn't like the smell of it). And agree with most, Akra Evo is not much different from just slip-ons.
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Interesting point of view, I don't think the akra evo is the best sounding exhaust, but probably the best engineered exhaust.

I remember the eisenmann race I had on my old car sounded awesome but it was just too loud inside and hopeless for high speed cruising. Whereas I find the akra evo I have on my new M3 is still quite loud outside but with almost no drone inside. I find this particularly handy when driving in Malaysia where we cruise on the highway at 200km/h. I remember the eisenmann would get far too annoying sitting on anything over 130km/h - plus the amount of low end torque you lose with the eisenmann is horrible.

The extra power is noticeable with the akra too which is nice, as is the reduction in weight!
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Yeah.. I dont know about that one.
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Its interesting to see this point of view on the Akro. What would you guys say about the full AA system in comparison?

I'm sure not everyone has had a chance to experience them, but those who have, how would you describe them in comparison to the Akro?
I have to agree that I was surprisingly disappointed when I heard an Akra system (not sure slip on or full) on an ///3 DCT. When it downshifted it sounded soul-less, and even on upshift it didn't sound great. This is no criticism because I am not sure what system the car had. This observation is purely on a drive-by experience. I don't know what it sounds like inside the car.

On the other hand, the /// Performance screems out loud and very much makes its presence felt. Bit like the E46 ... but in a very good way. Even on the freeway when you put the foot down even in high gear the car screams and you can hear it inside the cabin. Really like it. You drive through a tunnel and the sound bouncing off the walls is pure motorsport at its best. This is my 2c.
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i have the akra evo and when i first got it i was also not impressed with the sound either. I was considering changing my set up, but after installing the ESS VT2 600 supercharger kit the Akra Evo has completely changed exhaust notes and doesn't have the hollow titanium sound or resonance at 3500-4500 RPM anymore. i know that my suggestion is an expensive fix but well worth it.
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The exhaust tone didn't change Kristopher, it just sounds different when your cheeks are plastered back over your ears in hard acceleration.
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I love my Eisenmann Sport + Fabspeed Res-xpipe + 200cell HFC. The perfect Blend.

My only issue is that i hate how the Driver's side from the HFC sits low. Specially with a drop.

I heard my friends Full Evo System. It was good, but didn't have the same sound finish as the E-Sport. But the weight savings are wonderful im sure. You can't have everything at the end of the day.
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