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      03-04-2012, 09:33 PM   #133
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I've only seen one reference in a rumor type blog, but it's only natural that they'll put the Digic-5 processor in and perhaps use the new pixel-lens technology and improve the AF up to the X level, which it's near already.

The pixel-density is higher than the D800 already, so just a little improvement in noise handling and AF tracking would make it a killer action and wildlife body. Since they're dropping the 1D MkIV, it really makes sense that the 7D will carry the torch for us nature guys.

The 5D MkIII/7D MkII will be a really potent combo for a little less than a 1D-X.

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Very interesting. Worth keeping an eye on. I'm also willing to bet a faster shutter speed as well.
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Very interesting. Worth keeping an eye on. I'm also willing to bet a faster shutter speed as well.
1/8000th isn't fast enough?

You probably mean fps. I'm not so sure, because there's not enough room for multiple processors, like in the 1D-X. At 8-fps it's processing a ton of MBs already. The 1D-X has something like 1 Digic-5 processor and three or four Digic-4 processors. Also, it's got less pixels, hence less MB per second to process, so 12-fps is a piece of cake for it. Still, a lighter mirror and a couple of other tricks may get the 7D up to 10-fps. We'll probably need to buy even faster CF cards.

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1/8000th isn't fast enough?

You probably mean fps. I'm not so sure, because there's not enough room for multiple processors, like in the 1D-X. At 8-fps it's processing a ton of MBs already. The 1D-X has something like 1 Digic-5 processor and three or four Digic-4 processors. Also, it's got less pixels, hence less MB per second to process, so 12-fps is a piece of cake for it. Still, a lighter mirror and a couple of other tricks may get the 7D up to 10-fps. We'll probably need to buy even faster CF cards.

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yes, my mistake, I meant FPS. Good points about the processing power, however as technology keeps moving forward, the stuff takes up less and less space, so it might be interesting to see if they might be into a new processor by the time a 7DII comes out that takes up less space and packs more punch.

And I definitely see us having to buy faster CF cards sadly, but that's the nature of the beast.

I think 10FPS would be sufficient, people seem to have been happy with that for about the last 15+ years with film or digital. Much caster, and you may as well have a high definition camera at 24 - 60 FPS instead of a camera.
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Canon Rumors had an entry the other day claiming there may not be a 7D MkII coming. Just rumors, of course. But you have to wonder if Canon will come out with something to fill the gap between the ~$1000 60D/70D and the $3500 5D MkII.
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Canon Rumors had an entry the other day claiming there may not be a 7D MkII coming. Just rumors, of course. But you have to wonder if Canon will come out with something to fill the gap between the ~$1000 60D/70D and the $3500 5D MkII.
I don't see them replacing it, it's sold extremely well, would be a waste if they cut it out.

that's just my opinion though. But like Dave says, if they cut out the old 1DmkIV and don't replace the 7D, there will be a whole missing segment in the Canon lineup. And Canon won't hand something like that over to Nikon. Especially with all the supertelephoto's available.

Either one of the 2 cameras mentioned will have to be replaced/updated/re-encarnated or whatever to keep that segment alive.
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or release a 3D and just start a new numerical to further define one category.
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They are still figuring out how to have two DSLRs in one body, then we will have the 3D. ;-)
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they could make a 2D... instead of using odd numbers, it'll be primes.
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Nikon guy chiming in, pre-ordered the MkIII (gulp!) Originally was a Canon user (has the first EOS 650 when it came out) but moved to Nikon when the D200 came out. Always wanted to have a 5D for the video capabilities and this looks like it should also have solid low-light chops. Can't wait...
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Nikon guy chiming in, pre-ordered the MkIII (gulp!) Originally was a Canon user (has the first EOS 650 when it came out) but moved to Nikon when the D200 came out. Always wanted to have a 5D for the video capabilities and this looks like it should also have solid low-light chops. Can't wait...
I think you'll be happy. The only worry is what lenses do you have? It's going to be a super landscape, portrait and low light body.

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No Canon lenses yet (ouch...) Will start off with one or two primes (35, 50, etc.) and maybe one decent utility lens like the 24-105 (?) Might still change my mind for a D800 but don't think it will have the low light performance I was hoping for.
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No Canon lenses yet (ouch...) Will start off with one or two primes (35, 50, etc.) and maybe one decent utility lens like the 24-105 (?) Might still change my mind for a D800 but don't think it will have the low light performance I was hoping for.
The 24-150mm is excellent, I love mine, just correct for geometric errors in either LR or DxO.


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Canon y you no make ///M 5D yet??
Wrong phrase and wrong meme. It's "Y U NO" and this is the right pic lol:

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Is the US price of $3499 the total price, or do you guys have to pay some tax (state sale tax?) in addition to the $3499?

In Norway the preorder price is 29990 NOK, 1 USD=5.7 NOK, so that's 5260 USD. That's incl 25% tax.
Now the price has already dropped from 29990 NOK to 27990 NOK here.
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No Canon lenses yet (ouch...) Will start off with one or two primes (35, 50, etc.) and maybe one decent utility lens like the 24-105 (?) Might still change my mind for a D800 but don't think it will have the low light performance I was hoping for.
I also recommend the 24-105... it's a great all-around workhorse lens.
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Wrong phrase and wrong meme. It's "Y U NO" and this is the right pic lol:

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I have confirmed March 22, 2012 as the for sale date in both Canada and the United States. Cameras will arrive before that date to retailers, but cannot be sold until then.

It’s also rumored Canon will regulate the price of this camera starting in May. Which means, there will be a certain price point that a retailer cannot go below to sell the camera. This sort of regulation will also make such things advertising “free” things to bundle with the camera not allowed. This is good for retailers if true.
Did any of you guys pre-order this beast?
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Did any of you guys pre-order this beast?
I'm wondering if there isn't a big enough difference between the new and the old one for everyone to be jumping at the bit ready to grab it.

Like for example, the nikon essentially doubled its megapixels and added massive amounts of video software. As opposed to the canon getting 1mp and a few tweaks.

So I see the canon crowd thinking "wait and see" as what is currently available is only steps behind.
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