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      01-21-2017, 05:27 PM   #1
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screw hole in tire - repair option?

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Washing the car today, just noticed the below screw embedded in the passenger rear tire in the outer edge of the tread. Was dug in about .4-.5 inches it looked like. Not sure how long it was in there, but took it for a quick drive around the block and after parking I don't hear any loss of air and it seems to still be holding air. Will check it again in the morning...

Tires are almost brand new, probably 500 miles on them. Michelin PSS.

Question - any advice on preventive repair options if it continues to hold pressure?



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      01-21-2017, 05:40 PM   #2
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If it isn't leaking don't worry about it.

If it is leaking get it repaired.

Pouring a soap/water mix on the hole with let you know right away if it is leaking.
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Or, if it was fairly deep, put a plug in it. Pretty easy to do if you're so inclined.
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      01-21-2017, 06:30 PM   #4
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I would never plug a high performance tire. If its leaking bring it to a tire shop and have it patched from the inside. Some places do a patch/plug combination but never just a plug.

For piece of mind I would have the tire broken down and inspected for a puncture but I guess if its not loosing air you might be OK?
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      01-21-2017, 06:39 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input. I actually did the soapy water test right after I started this thread and no leak. Just thinking if there is something preventive I can do now to avoid a more catastrophic failure when it wouldn't be as easy to manage the situation.

Maybe I should bring in and have it broken down?
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Plug. Then wait for a tire sale to find replacement for both sides
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Plug will last as long as the tyre will under recommended conditions. Never had issues in the past.
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I have run plugs without issue.
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I think you're fine. Plug it if it ever develops into a leak, but I don't think it's possible to plug now if the screw didn't puncture through entirely.
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I would never plug a high performance tire. If its leaking bring it to a tire shop and have it patched from the inside. Some places do a patch/plug combination but never just a plug.

For piece of mind I would have the tire broken down and inspected for a puncture but I guess if its not loosing air you might be OK?
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if no leak, no need to patch or plug. Be happy!

I had a puncture in a similar spot and my tire shop would not patch it, since it was too close to the sidewall.
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if no leak, no need to patch or plug. Be happy!

I had a puncture in a similar spot and my tire shop would not patch it, since it was too close to the sidewall.
I had a puncture on the shoulder of my rear PSS (much closer to the sidewall than OP) and my local tire mounter/wheel repair shop removed the nail, cleaned up the hole with a drill, and plugged it with a traditional tire plug dipped in rubber cement. I was skeptical but the tire has since experienced 15k additional miles and a track day.
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I had a puncture on the shoulder of my rear PSS (much closer to the sidewall than OP) and my local tire mounter/wheel repair shop removed the nail, cleaned up the hole with a drill, and plugged it with a traditional tire plug dipped in rubber cement. I was skeptical but the tire has since experienced 15k additional miles and a track day.
Thanks for the info! I always wondered if they simply wanted to sell me another tire, which they did versus an honest, but less profitable repair job.
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bring it to a local tire dealer and get a patch from inside the tire (not jus patching outside). will cost $25 and will do the job. not sure about track day but on daily drive won't cause any problem
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bring it to a local tire dealer and get a patch from inside the tire (not jus patching outside). will cost $25 and will do the job. not sure about track day but on daily drive won't cause any problem
I've gone to America's tire and they plugged and patched for free (I guess hoping I will come back to them when I need new tires). But it must not have punctured through so you're probably good until you need a new tire.
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I would consider myself an experienced tire installer and with 12 years of experience I can tell you that I would not repair this tire.

To start

Yes, there are many tire shops that will repair this puncture and tell you that it is totally fine. However, I would completely disagree and due to the way tires are constructed a puncture in this location (this close to the sidewall) can actually cause an inner belt separation that would be "less than fortunate" at highway speeds.

Also, many people have mentioned that if the screw did not puncture all the way through the tire and is not leaking then all is ok.
-that is false, looking at the length of that screw it most certainly went deep enough to expose the inner belts which will now have access to moisture and will eventually create a belt separation.

I completely agree that buying a new tire will suck but would you like your tire to blow out while you're putting your foot into it on the freeway?

IF you absolutely insist on having the tire repaired then you HAVE to make sure they repair it properly!

Drill out hole, pull through tire insert (plug), AND also patch
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Repair. Take it somewhere and have them drill, plug, and patch.
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Just buy a new tire..... since they are practically brand new you don't need to replace both. They are not expensive so why even take the chance?
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Just buy a new tire..... since they are practically brand new you don't need to replace both. They are not expensive so why even take the chance?
Not expensive? $270 for just the tire. Tax and install $320. ///M Tax.
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Just buy a new tire..... since they are practically brand new you don't need to replace both. They are not expensive so why even take the chance?
Not expensive? $270 for just the tire. Tax and install $320. ///M Tax.
$300 is less than most people waste eating fast food in a month. Its called a savings account, and this would warrant a dip into it.
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$300 is less than most people waste eating fast food in a month. Its called a savings account, and this would warrant a dip into it.
Interesting comparison... I'd tend to use something more automotive related like comparing the PSS to the cost of every other tire available for the M3.
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I had a nail in almost the exact same spot as your screw, and have Michelin PSS on my car. It cannot be patched or plugged if the screw or nail has gone all the way through because of the way the tire is constructed. You need to replace the tire.

However, since no air is leaking out it appears that the screw did not completely puncture the tire, and no repair or replacement should be required.
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