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      11-11-2013, 03:20 AM   #1
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Fat screw in new front tire

Only 2200 mi on the odometer and somehow a freakin hex nut 1/2 screw gets straight jammed into my tire. Pressure warning came on a few times and I knew something was wrong, then I notice the head of a nut straight into my tire tread. I got a plug put in for $15 at some shop and have been driving on it up to 90mph on the highway. No pressure decrease in the last week.

Since the tires are all very new should I just replace the one tire so I dont have to worry about it?

I did want to replace OEMs with better traction tires, at least the rears, but don't want to get rid of new tires. I do want to track the car next spring.
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      11-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #2
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I would replace it, especially if you plan to track the car on those tires.
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My thought is that I will want separate track rims/tires so I do don't shred my normal ones.
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I'd simply plug street tires, but you definitely cannot use a repaired tire on the track.

This is a big reason for me buying a separate set of wheels/tires for the track - don't want to drive 8 hours to a track, only to discover I have a nail in one tire. If you frequent closer tracks (especially ones with arrive & drive sessions), then it might not be such a big deal.
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Believe it or not if it was patched properly there would be no issues even on the track, as long as the hole is small and the patch is well within the tread no where near the sidewall. A plugged tire is a different issue...OK for the street, wouldn't track with it.

I tracked with a patched rear tire, my 997S...no issues at all.



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I'd personally remove the plug and patch it. I'm not a fan of plugging unless there is no other way.
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I'd personally remove the plug and patch it. I'm not a fan of plugging unless there is no other way.
I'll concede that I'm no expert on the issue of plugs vs patches, but my main point was that it feels like a needless waste to replace the whole tire. The only time I'd do that is on a set of track tires. For street, unless you drive like a maniac, a repaired tire should be fine.

BTW, I've always gotten simple plugs, and never had an issue.
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I would not replace a tire due to a nail or screw either. We all have driven on patched tires and have never had an issue.

Regarding the plug when I was a child my father had his tire plugged and a few months later had a blowout due to a bubble forming where the plug was. I told myself I would never use a plug. Everyone can do what they feel is right as there is no right or wrong answer here just what makes you feel more secure.


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I'll concede that I'm no expert on the issue of plugs vs patches, but my main point was that it feels like a needless waste to replace the whole tire. The only time I'd do that is on a set of track tires. For street, unless you drive like a maniac, a repaired tire should be fine.

BTW, I've always gotten simple plugs, and never had an issue.
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I would not replace a tire due to a nail or screw either. We all have driven on patched tires and have never had an issue.

Regarding the plug when I was a child my father had his tire plugged and a few months later had a blowout due to a bubble forming where the plug was. I told myself I would never use a plug. Everyone can do what they feel is right as there is no right or wrong answer here just what makes you feel more secure.
I asked the guy about using a patch but he said it wouldn't hold up because the ribbing inside of the run flat tire. I think since it's run flat it should be OK? I mean I would like to drive it fast, I drive 80 on the highway easy, but no need to drive more than that.
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M3's don't come with run flats.

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I asked the guy about using a patch but he said it wouldn't hold up because the ribbing inside of the run flat tire. I think since it's run flat it should be OK? I mean I would like to drive it fast, I drive 80 on the highway easy, but no need to drive more than that.
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Patch vs. Plug

On the patch/plug issue, the preferred answer is actually both.

The general guideline is that punctures up to 1/4" in diameter in the tread area are repairable. Larger than that or in/near the sidewall should not be repaired.

The patch is needed to completely seal the innerliner. A plug is needed to fill the hole in the tire and prevent moisture from getting into the tire body.

Plug-only repairs are OK as a temporary fix to get you home until you can get a full repair.

Removing the tire to install the patch allows the tire to be inspected for internal damage. In the case of spdy330's dad, there may very well have been internal damage that was never diagnosed. The weak spot created by the damage could then bubble up and burst.

This is the executive summary. Our full tech article is here for any who have further interest:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...&affiliate=AW8
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Makes sense. Thanks for the info!
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      11-18-2013, 06:46 AM   #13
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On the patch/plug issue, the preferred answer is actually both.

The general guideline is that punctures up to 1/4" in diameter in the tread area are repairable. Larger than that or in/near the sidewall should not be repaired.

The patch is needed to completely seal the innerliner. A plug is needed to fill the hole in the tire and prevent moisture from getting into the tire body.

Plug-only repairs are OK as a temporary fix to get you home until you can get a full repair.

Removing the tire to install the patch allows the tire to be inspected for internal damage. In the case of spdy330's dad, there may very well have been internal damage that was never diagnosed. The weak spot created by the damage could then bubble up and burst.

This is the executive summary. Our full tech article is here for any who have further interest:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...&affiliate=AW8
Thank you! I think I'll just pay to get a new tire. I don't want to have to think about it. The bolt diameter was probably equal to 1/4 inch. It was not near a side wall, it was in one of the main treads.
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      11-19-2013, 12:52 PM   #14
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I ran HPDE with three clubs this summer, and all three forbid patched or plugged tires.

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