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      02-16-2012, 06:23 PM   #1
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Infineon Raceway and Matte Black Ferrari 458GT

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I was in Napa a couple of weeks ago and decided to go check out Infineon Raceway. What a track. I am envious of the SF area track people. I also got lucky and stumble upon R3 motorsports testing a number of their Ferrari 458GTs, some in Matte Black. Super cool.

I wrote a little something about it www.onehotlap.com. Hope you enjoy it.

http://www.onehotlap.com/2012/02/one...ceway-and.html
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The Mitsubishi Evo Driving Experience is there too.

There is always something going on at Infineon and you can usually just drop by to spectate.
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Great write-up! I can't wait to drive this track. One day I will go on a West Coast track day tour and Infineon will be top of my list!!

For those of you on the West Coast, what lap times are you running around Infineon?
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Track looks awesome. Some nice tire screeching on the vid
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Great write-up! I can't wait to drive this track. One day I will go on a West Coast track day tour and Infineon will be top of my list!!

For those of you on the West Coast, what lap times are you running around Infineon?
Haven't had a chance to run at Infineon in my new M3, but I understand 1:58s are a good time for a stock E9x M3.

I love the track. Did it a bunch of times in my 330i and Spec Miata, and even a Dodge Neon and Pontiac Sunfire. Can't wait to do it in my M3.

Here is what it looks and sounds like in a stock Sunfire on the world's crappiest street tires, courtesy of Enterprise-Rent-A-Car.

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Haven't had a chance to run at Infineon in my new M3, but I understand 1:58s are a good time for a stock E9x M3.

I love the track. Did it a bunch of times in my 330i and Spec Miata, and even a Dodge Neon and Pontiac Sunfire. Can't wait to do it in my M3.

Here is what it looks and sounds like in a stock Sunfire on the world's crappiest street tires, courtesy of Enterprise-Rent-A-Car.

Yee-haw! Plowin' more than a farmer at seedin' time!
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Haven't had a chance to run at Infineon in my new M3, but I understand 1:58s are a good time for a stock E9x M3.

I love the track. Did it a bunch of times in my 330i and Spec Miata, and even a Dodge Neon and Pontiac Sunfire. Can't wait to do it in my M3.

Here is what it looks and sounds like in a stock Sunfire on the world's crappiest street tires, courtesy of Enterprise-Rent-A-Car.

LOL, you got your money's worth out of that rental
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...What a track. I am envious of the SF area track people. ...
Great write up. Video from 2/14 just to prove your point

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Wow, nice driving r53s65e90. I am officially jealous of you guys. I need to find a way to drive this track someday.

Do people in the bay area prefer Infineon or Laguna Seca?
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Wow, nice driving r53s65e90. I am officially jealous of you guys. I need to find a way to drive this track someday.

Do people in the bay area prefer Infineon or Laguna Seca?
I may be in the minority but I prefer Thunderhill which is owned and run by the SCCA. Very easy to drive course, a lot more "flowing" than either track, less walls, safer runoffs and more sections to carry higher speeds.

Infineon and Laguna Seca are both older style tracks with sharp corners and close in walls - if you go off track, you can total your car. The sharp elevation changes do make it interesting though. I love these tracks too but my default "home track" is Thunderhill.
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Wow, nice driving r53s65e90. I am officially jealous of you guys. I need to find a way to drive this track someday.

Do people in the bay area prefer Infineon or Laguna Seca?
I may be in the minority but I prefer Thunderhill which is owned and run by the SCCA. Very easy to drive course, a lot more "flowing" than either track, less walls, safer runoffs and more sections to carry higher speeds.

Infineon and Laguna Seca are both older style tracks with sharp corners and close in walls - if you go off track, you can total your car. The sharp elevation changes do make it interesting though. I love these tracks too but my default "home track" is Thunderhill.
For me distance plays a big role: Laguna Seca and Infineon are 80 miles away. Thunderhill is 160 miles away. If Thunderhill were closer, I would probably chose it because of safety. It is definitely as fun as they tried to incorporate elements from laguna seca and infineon when they designed it.

Unless you are really good race licensed driver preferably driving some sponsored car, Infineon needs to grow on you in order be fun. Only after several visits it becomes really really fun. So if you drive down from Seattle, I would suggest booking 2-3 days back to back for infineon.

Laguna Seca is pretty safe because the runoff is designed to slow you down a lot before you hit walls.

Thunderhill is the best in terms of peace of mind.
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For me distance plays a big role: Laguna Seca and Infineon are 80 miles away. Thunderhill is 160 miles away. If Thunderhill were closer, I would probably chose it because of safety. It is definitely as fun as they tried to incorporate elements from laguna seca and infineon when they designed it.

Unless you are really good race licensed driver preferably driving some sponsored car, Infineon needs to grow on you in order be fun. Only after several visits it becomes really really fun. So if you drive down from Seattle, I would suggest booking 2-3 days back to back for infineon.

Laguna Seca is pretty safe because the runoff is designed to slow you down a lot before you hit walls.

Thunderhill is the best in terms of peace of mind.
I understand the distance thing. I used to live in Sacramento so Thunderhill was not far at all. Back then I'd be there every month, sometimes just dropping by to watch the action.

For me now, Infineon is the closest. Laguna Seca and Thunderhill are about equal in terms of driving time because of the bad traffic jams headed down south from San Francisco. The roads to Thunderhill is usually wide open and I'm cruising on deserted highways at 85-90mph the whole time.

Here's a track day I did in my Evo at Laguna Seca, playing with an F430 and a modded M3. Damn Ferrari was so slow and the M3 got away.

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Wow, nice driving r53s65e90. I am officially jealous of you guys. I need to find a way to drive this track someday.

Do people in the bay area prefer Infineon or Laguna Seca?
For me, I currently like Infineon more because it is taking me longer to master. Don't get me wrong, Laguna Seca is awesome too and I try to make it to LS whenever I can! However, at Laguna I felt I knew the track after just a couple of days, where as for Infineon I have gone 7 days and there is still some nuance for me to work out.

Also, I like a track that scares me a little. At Infineon through turns 1-2, 5-6, 9-10 I know how I can go faster though those zones but it is my own lack of guts that is holding me back!
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LOL, you got your money's worth out of that rental
Best $23.99 I've ever spent.
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Thunderhill is my favorite track, but it's closely followed by Infineon. I don't like Laguna Seca at all, but I understand it's great for wheel-to-wheel racing because of the big straights and passing opportunities. Laguna Seca is also one of those tracks that's easy to learn but difficult to master because of the speed and high pucker factor of turns like 6 and 9. To do those turns at 10/10ths and consistently well takes big brass ones as well as precision.

P.S. The "corkscrew" at LS is the glamour corner but it's not really that challenging.

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Great write up. Video from 2/14 just to prove your point

Fantastic video. What car, what mods and tires?
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Fantastic video. What car, what mods and tires?
Thanks. The day was as good as it gets.

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Here is some video from my favorite track, Thunderhill. The driving is sloppy, but it was my first day at Thunderhill in 6 years. Car is stock except Hankook RS3s and Stoptech Street Performance Pads. Running 2:12s in the video, but got down to 2:09s by the end of the weekend by being sharper with the line everywhere and exiting both T1 and T8 about 10 mph faster and carrying more speed into T2 an T3 (you're not doing T2 and T3 right unless you hear tire noise throughout the entire turn and not just the last half).



In case you're wondering, all that right arm waving was because my baggy t-shirt kept bunching up behind my back and restricting arm movement.

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