Stoptech trophy kit - finish gone after 6 months - Page 4

persian54 · 12-29-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Maybe do a little re-"search?"

pad changes are faster by a magnitude. it's off and back on with the removable bridge. I know this because I ran wilwood dynapro's that had a similar construction. I can't imagine the pain with dealing with brembos having to take the caliper off EVERY SINGLE TIME there is a pad change.

Also the pads are extremely cheap and are a standard size.

ok if you're balling with brembos maybe you have your own trackside support and your fav shop that does everything for you. Then again you may not be tracking much or at all with brembos lol (note I said MAY NOT

I do know lots of guys who picked up brembos just for show)

Well... I have done several searches, hence why I bought what I felt was best for my application; I was just hoping to learn something new.

But what you listed isn't anything new lol. Like I said, if you're balling... well you said what I was going to say.

4sevens.com · 12-29-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

Well... I have done several searches, hence why I bought what I felt was best for my application; I was just hoping to learn something new.

But what you listed isn't anything knew lol. Like I said, if you're balling... well you said what I was going to say.

Well - hence my counter-point - that stoptechs ARE better even if you're balling with $$$$.

By the way - I think you meant to say "new" and not k-new.

Just playing devil's advocate - just saying....

persian54 · 12-29-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Well - hence my counter-point - that stoptechs ARE better even if you're balling with $$$$.

By the way - I think you meant to say "new" and not k-new.

Just playing devil's advocate - just saying....

Typos happen when using the iPhone to be on Bimmerpost

FYI, I'm a StopTech guy. Just saying

4sevens.com · 12-29-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by persian54

FYI, I'm a StopTech guy. Just saying

Right. So your point about Brembos being the best choice track if $ is not an issue is weak. I just made a clear point that stoptechs have a huge advantage against the brembos for true track rats.

Gearhead999s · 12-29-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

According to Stoptech's dealer price list:

"For Track Use: black is best, red is acceptable. Other caliper colors may experience significant color change due to the extreme temperatures."

I have the blacks and mine have gone dull & the lettering has yellowed after about 20 days at the track.

persian54 · 12-29-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Right. So your point about Brembos being the best choice track if $ is not an issue is weak. I just made a clear point that stoptechs have a huge advantage against the brembos for true track rats.

Guess you missed this sentence?
"FYI Not saying the StopTech/Trophy isn't great, just saying Brembos are great just like the other BBKs"
And I never said "Brembos being the best choice track"
Endless BBK are phenomenal from what's read, though I have - experience with them. The Brembo GTR kit is also suppose to be amazing, but again no personal experience with them.
I've only driven cars with the Brembo non-GTR kit, and a StopTech Trophy kit; never used AP either unfortunately, though I haven't really read any negative reviews on them in terms of performance.

Don't want to start an argument with you, so this will be my last post in this thread regarding this topic, but your point on why ST is better than Brembo isn't to convincing IMO.
From my understanding, you said the key advantages of ST over brembo is easier pad changes and also cheaper replacement parts, right? If I misunderstood your point, then my apologies, but this is how I interpreted your posts.
With $, one can always pay a shop do all the pads changes (so inconvenience/time consumption are no longer an 'issue'), and also increased replacement costs would be irrelevant.

If you meant something different than what I addressed above in your statement:

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I just made a clear point that stoptechs have a huge advantage against the brembos for true track rats.

Then maybe you could clarify your point.
As easier pad changes and lower replacement costs isn't a "huge" advantage over Brembos if $ is not an issue (at least that's how I see it, IMO).

For me, ST is better than Brembo for those exact 2 reasons you listed (cheaper costs, easier pad changes), so yes, for me ST has the clear advantage for someone who tracks 1-2 times per month; but I'm not balling like simonlam168

Sorry rldzhao, I didn't mean for this to get more than 2-3 posts, but I guess it got out of hand.

FruitCake · 12-30-2011, 04:42 AM

im a poser and I just daily my car on Brembos and JRZ and 15k worth of rims, LM/LMR/TE37. something wrong with that?

i smell jelly in this thread

4sevens.com · 12-30-2011, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FruitCake

im a poser and I just daily my car on Brembos and JRZ and 15k worth of rims, LM/LMR/TE37. something wrong with that?

i smell jelly in this thread

haha. I like your screen name.

THE TECH · 12-30-2011, 09:54 AM

I was planning on doing the Trophy kit but after all this, I am having major second thoughts. Regardless of whether a "harsh" wheel cleaner was used, you would think a set of $6k+ brakes could handle more than this type of "abuse".

Technic · 12-30-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

I was planning on doing the Trophy kit but after all this, I am having major second thoughts. Regardless of whether a "harsh" wheel cleaner was used, you would think a set of $6k+ brakes could handle more than this type of "abuse".

I'm having not even a thought... I'm getting a Brembo BBK after this thread and after two months trying to get a simple front BBK from StopTech.

Every week is another week of backorder for something different. This has been going on for the last 2 months and still they cannot get their stock back up. The least that I want is to get their kit, install it and then see rust in the bolts.

I really do not have any patience for any crappy service.

THE TECH · 12-30-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

I'm having not even a thought... I'm getting a Brembo BBK after this thread and after two months trying to get a simple front BBK from StopTech.

Every week is another week of backorder for something different. This has been going on for the last 2 months and still they cannot get their stock back up. The least that I want is to get their kit, install it and then see rust in the bolts.

I really do not have any patience for any crappy service.

I have to agree with you there. Honestly, the only reason I am hanging onto them as a possibility is the price that I can get them for versus the Brembos.

TopSpeedM3 · 12-30-2011, 10:27 AM

Love my Trophy kit... no issues at all. I bought them with the understanding that I was buying a track oriented brake system that I will rebuild every off season.

For a track brake system the stoptech's are the way to go. Being able to have cheap consumables plus the ability to rebuild the calipers is a major plus.

crabman · 12-30-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by apecush

They'll be plated alloy steel.
Why not stainless? because stainless bolts will either be considerably weaker than plated alloy steel, or prohibitively more expensive for similar strength.

I was told the issue with stainless is in the application is tensile strength. Softer stainless bolts will stretch harder versions subject to breaking. Can anyone confirm or deny?

akh23456 · 12-30-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

I was planning on doing the Trophy kit but after all this, I am having major second thoughts. Regardless of whether a "harsh" wheel cleaner was used, you would think a set of $6k brakes could handle more than this type of "abuse".

I'm having not even a thought... I'm getting a Brembo BBK after this thread and after two months trying to get a simple front BBK from StopTech.

Every week is another week of backorder for something different. This has been going on for the last 2 months and still they cannot get their stock back up. The least that I want is to get their kit, install it and then see rust in the bolts.

I really do not have any patience for any crappy service.

I order my kit in october and got it last week...getting it installed soon do hopefully some kind of review

THE TECH · 12-30-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by akh23456

I order my kit in october and got it last week...getting it installed soon do hopefully some kind of review

That's insane!

consolidated · 01-02-2012, 07:50 PM

I have very similar issues. I called Stop Tech a few months back and they insisted it was bad cleaner, which my small shop detailer insists he never uses and I didn't see any in his arsenal of products. My bolts look fine but the anodizing is dulled and failing along a drip line just like the pics in these posts. I'll try calling them again to see if perhaps they can just paint them.

They still work to perfection however.

THE TECH · 01-02-2012, 07:55 PM

If I end up with one of their kits, I think I'll just get a powdercoated one.

Justin(OKC) · 01-02-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by consolidated

I have very similar issues. I called Stop Tech a few months back and they insisted it was bad cleaner, which my small shop detailer insists he never uses and I didn't see any in his arsenal of products. My bolts look fine but the anodizing is dulled and failing along a drip line just like the pics in these posts. I'll try calling them again to see if perhaps they can just paint them.

They still work to perfection however.

Don't like hearing this. I wondered if possibly getting brake fluid on the caliper caused some of the dulling of the anodizing. Just a thought...

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

If I end up with one of their kits, I think I'll just get a powdercoated one.

If they could be powdercoated easily without destroying something, I might be interested in that. Much more durable than paint!! I have seen these calipers painted on the lambo painted M3's

THE TECH · 01-02-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin(OKC)

If they could be powdercoated easily without destroying something, I might be interested in that. Much more durable than paint!! I have seen these calipers painted on the lambo painted M3's

I didn't mean powdercoating a Trophy kit. I would just get a standard kit.

Justin(OKC) · 01-02-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

I didn't mean powdercoating a Trophy kit. I would just get a standard kit.

LOL....I need to learn to read!!! Sorry, haha. I am really perplexed on this brake thing. Finally settled on the Trophy setup and then read this. The reality is that I'd love some red brembos, but don't want to have to deal with repainting them, the cost of parts, and the hassle of changing pads.

Poofyo101 · 01-05-2012, 10:56 PM

Deciding wether to install my kit tomorrow or wait for all these claims to be sorted out. Really don't want this to happen.

THE TECH · 01-06-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Poofyo101

Deciding wether to install my kit tomorrow or wait for all these claims to be sorted out. Really don't want this to happen.

Tough call on that one. Sounds like from the people who have the issue that Stoptech hasn't been very forthcoming on the problem.

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consolidated Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,252 iTrader: (1)	I have very similar issues. I called Stop Tech a few months back and they insisted it was bad cleaner, which my small shop detailer insists he never uses and I didn't see any in his arsenal of products. My bolts look fine but the anodizing is dulled and failing along a drip line just like the pics in these posts. I'll try calling them again to see if perhaps they can just paint them. They still work to perfection however. __________________ E90 M3 DCT 911 GT3RS F250 Racecars Last edited by consolidated; 01-02-2012 at 08:11 PM.

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FruitCake Banned Drives: '10 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,687 iTrader: (19)	im a poser and I just daily my car on Brembos and JRZ and 15k worth of rims, LM/LMR/TE37. something wrong with that? i smell jelly in this thread

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TopSpeedM3 Douglas W Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Alpharetta Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	Love my Trophy kit... no issues at all. I bought them with the understanding that I was buying a track oriented brake system that I will rebuild every off season. For a track brake system the stoptech's are the way to go. Being able to have cheap consumables plus the ability to rebuild the calipers is a major plus.