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      12-02-2011, 07:28 AM   #1
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Warning for DCT: Do not install latest BMW software update

If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.
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      12-02-2011, 08:09 AM   #2
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If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.
I'm all for safety, but this is stupid. So if something with my seat belt mech fails, I cant drive my car?!
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      12-02-2011, 08:26 AM   #3
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If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.
That sucks. Thanks for the heads-up
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      12-02-2011, 09:16 AM   #4
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This was posted a while back. You can just get the seat belt buckle simulator and snap that in if you don't want the belt on for some reason.
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      12-02-2011, 09:21 AM   #5
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That's interesting.. I'm curious how they enforce this on the 6MT cars and also if coding can remove the restriction.
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      12-02-2011, 09:31 AM   #6
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That's interesting.. I'm curious how they enforce this on the 6MT cars and also if coding can remove the restriction.
Afaik, there is no restriction on the 6MT. I will find out for sure tomorrow though
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If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.
Interesting.... I've read this before but this is not the case with my M3 MFD 09/11. I wonder what other benefits the new update provides.
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      12-02-2011, 11:27 AM   #8
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I just had dct software updated and do not have this problem. Perhaps there is yet another one releasd
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      12-02-2011, 12:15 PM   #9
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I too have the latest DCT and DME update and I don't have this problem. Perhaps Canadian spec cars are exempt from this "feature".
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      12-02-2011, 12:33 PM   #10
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Afaik, there is no restriction on the 6MT. I will find out for sure tomorrow though
You're getting your car finally? About time

This thing has been pissing me off ever since they did it...
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      12-02-2011, 12:55 PM   #11
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i updated my dct e92 software three weeks ago, (regular inspection at bmw dealer just did it) and i am havin this issue and it is PITA when backin up cuz i usually park with my back facing the wall
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this is exactly what we need. it's amazing how I was able to survive to adulthood without nanny tech forcing me to buckle up
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Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":


Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driverís seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

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Hope this helps.
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I still don't get this. I can 'D' and 'R' without having my seat belt on but if I open my door to check around the side while reversing there's a 50/50 chance it'll go into 'N'. Now that's a PITA.
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      12-08-2011, 05:08 PM   #15
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Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":


Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driverís seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

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Hope this helps.
Awesome, thanks for the information.
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      12-08-2011, 05:34 PM   #16
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Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":


Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver’s seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

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Hope this helps.

Anyway to check which ista/p is programmed into a car?
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Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009[b]
I wonder if vehicles manufactured after 9/2009 are unaffected.
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I ask my one of my friend who a tech at BMW, he told be there should be a fix for this beginning of next year.
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yea I don't have this problem either and I picked up my car last friday.
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I ask my one of my friend who a tech at BMW, he told be there should be a fix for this beginning of next year.
Thanks.
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yea I don't have this problem either and I picked up my car last friday.
What's the MFD date?
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