BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos
 
Lux Angel Eyes
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-16-2011, 11:31 PM   #1
JSpira
Freude am Fahren
 
JSpira's Avatar
 
Drives: Fünfer, Dreier, +
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: New York, München, Wien

Posts: 5,254
iTrader: (1)

EPA and DOT to Require 54.5 MPG by 2025

Interesting... cars will cost at least several thousand dollars more but the government assures us that new car buyers will save even more thanks to the greater fuel economy. It just might be possible... but will fewer people purchase cars thanks to the higher up-front investment?

BMW seemingly is showing great prescience with its electric vehicle plans and subbrand and the changing standards might help diesel as well.

New Fuel Economy Standards to Require 54.5 mpg by 2025

Quote:
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and Environmental Protection Agency announced new Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFÉ) standards for 2017-2025 which, if approved, will double current fuel efficiency requirements to 54.5 mpg by 2025. The new standards could cost the automotive industry as much as $157 billion but may portend good news for diesels and other fuel efficient vehicles.
<SNIP>
Article continues here

Above report was just filed by my colleague Paul Riegler, incidentally.
__________________
Freude am Fahren.

Jonathan




E90 2006 330xi
E90 2006 325i
E39 2003 530i Sport*
E46 2000 328Ci*
E36 1996 328iS*
E36 1992 325i*
E30 1991 318is
E21 1982 320iS*
E21 1979 320 (6-Zyl)*
*retired


Nominated: Most Contributing Member
JSpira is offline   Austria
0
Reply With Quote
      11-17-2011, 01:18 PM   #2
krnboy817
Major
 
krnboy817's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 328i coupe
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DFW texas

Posts: 1,012
iTrader: (3)

cars will be more expensive because fuel prices will probably be double of what it is now... so the cost of 54mpg is probably going to be same as the cost of 25-30mpg today.

i dont think anyone should trust governments math... the savings are probably comparing to todays standards IF the fuel price(s) stay the same in 2025. i mean thats 13-14 yrs from now... just look back what the fuel prices were 13-14yrs ago, are you really saving money today compared to 1997?

my 98 trans am got 23mpg hwy at $1.08 a gallon while my 2008 328i getting 28mpg hwy at $3.25 a gallon... so does 5mpg offset the $1-2 dollar (factoring inflation) difference im paying per gallon?

i think the saving they mention are marketing gimmick because they know that people wont buy it at higher prices, also know they cant build cars at todays prices due to shortage in materials and various kinds of natural resources.
__________________

driving is poetry in motion.
krnboy817 is offline   South Korea
0
Reply With Quote
      11-17-2011, 01:33 PM   #3
Pangloss
Lieutenant
 
Pangloss's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 135i Convertible
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: South Florida

Posts: 563
iTrader: (0)

It's a good thing. The tragedy of the commons scenario here (legitimizing government intervention) is that the manufacturers have consistently increased horsepower (instead of fuel economy) in response to misplaced/undereducated customer demand.

Put another way, hobbyists and motorheads should be able to get 300 horsepower (and will continue to be able to). Soccer moms should be happy with 125. The fact that it doesn't work out that way (soccer moms get stuck with 125-200hp more than they need or want) is a problem that the industry doesn't seem to be able to rectify based solely on free market forces. (shrug)

Pinheads will turn it into a conservative-liberal thing, and one can legitimately debate the exact numbers and dates, but really this is what government is for. Nothing more to it than that.
__________________
2012 135i convertible, DCT, Black/Beige, HK, Prem, M sport, no nav.

Last edited by Pangloss; 11-17-2011 at 01:34 PM. Reason: friggin typos
Pangloss is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-17-2011, 01:42 PM   #4
flyinb501
Lieutenant
 
Drives: G35 Coupe, Dodge Ram
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN

Posts: 551
iTrader: (0)

More expensive cars, and more expensive gas and the EPA is to blame for both. Hopefully their power will get reeled back soon...
flyinb501 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-17-2011, 02:48 PM   #5
krnboy817
Major
 
krnboy817's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 328i coupe
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: DFW texas

Posts: 1,012
iTrader: (3)

Cadillac L62 "V8-6-4" in 1981 already introduced the cylinder deactivation technology. we probably didnt have to see it in such mass production like today because we didnt have government agencies demanding it.

and im getting the feeling the standards for gas guzzler tax is going to be raised too along with the status quo is being pushed to be raised.
__________________

driving is poetry in motion.
krnboy817 is offline   South Korea
0
Reply With Quote
      11-23-2011, 11:27 AM   #6
1GhostRider
Private First Class
 
1GhostRider's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 325i (E90)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: The 717,PA

Posts: 122
iTrader: (0)

Buy a Fiat 500c now then. The diesel 1.3L get over 60mpg and there was a guy on the news that got 71mpg on the hwy. Have to buy out of country, not coming to the states. They are scared everyone will buy and drop the hybrid junk. All they want is for you to take one, and spend lots of money, thinking its better.
__________________

FOR SALE
2008 Honda CBR 600RR
1GhostRider is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:23 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST